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Love or money?

haaretz

I PUT SUNGLASSES ON MY WIENER!
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When did I every say my wife was putting out. Before menopause her sex drive was lower than mine but adequate enough to prevent me from going crazy. After menopause it dropped like a rock. I, like you, enjoy a bit of fun periodically because I am tired of jerking off and can afford not to jerk off.

VJ, I understand your point.

I am a little more open minded than most. If I had a daughter in the business, I would absolutely not think any differently of her.

We as a society program our women to go to a good college and meet a nice young man with potential and live a happy and fulfilling life. Most parents are letting their wonderful cherished virgin daughters go into huge personal debt while getting fucked for free by a bunch of guys with no money. If that same young woman was P2P minded and instead of fucking young poor students all night but choose older established men with money, she can graduate being fucked the same number of times as her roommate but not in the unburdened debt of her counterpart.

I do not see a woman marketing, selling and her assets any different than every one of us in the work force. As a matter of fact, independents have to work pretty diligently finding and retaining clients to keep her cash flow going.
Understood. Same here, wifewise.

And perhaps younger generations won't be so hypocritical about at least decriminalizing cosa nostra. Ha! I had higher hopes as a baby boomer.
 

VJLUTZ

Desire is the opposite of death.
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I do not see a woman marketing, selling and her assets any different than every one of us in the work force. As a matter of fact, independents have to work pretty diligently finding and retaining clients to keep her cash flow going.
Well, I beg to differ here. One big risk of being on SA is that someone who knows the girl will find out what she is doing and the information spreads like wildfire around her school or workplace. Then her reputation is ruined, maybe forever. From what I've seen, some of these girls do a poor job of masking their identity. And, of course, it works both ways too. Which is why we use avatars on Monger sites is to hide our identity. When using SA, I puckered a little every time I gave someone access to my private photos. And that's even when I screen them first to make sure I don't know them in any way.

If you are a full-time independent provider, you are probably past caring about your rep. But that's definitely not true for most semi-pros on sites like SA.
 

charliebrown

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VJ, I get all of the societal norms going on in our specific world. I have watched those norms slowly but surely shift in my lifetime. I do not expect whoring to ever be a profession that generates the impression of awe in society, but I do expect it to become less shunned with time.
 

Waterboy

Hero of the stupid
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VJ, I get all of the societal norms going on in our specific world. I have watched those norms slowly but surely shift in my lifetime. I do not expect whoring to ever be a profession that generates the impression of awe in society, but I do expect it to become less shunned with time.
But what about mongering?
 

East Lake II

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I have done taxes for a number of women, and it is astonishing to me how overstated some guys think the typical provider of any type makes.

Yes, some do really, really well. Most do far more modestly. But somehow men seem to fantasize that their favorite makes mid six figures a year so they must really love every session--otherwise they wouldn't keep seeing him.

Some men well make up some amazing fantasies to tell themselves. But occasionally those situations are true. Just occasionally.
They aren’t about to declare all they make. And, many pay to have some bogus income source from another business so they can have some legit income.
 

TGBeldin

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Many actually do have another business/job, and do the massage work part time. There are a lot of places where the demand does not support full time.

As far as declaring all they do make, I expect they are like any other cash businessmen. Some are more accurate than others.

The ladies I do it for are, i believe, all honest with me.
 

Shibsaeggi

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A room salon owner in Flushing or Palisades Park will accept a room salon worker from Korea only if her debt is less than $30K and if they see that she has potential to make him/her a lot of money.

The room salon owner pays off her debt to the broker in Korea.
The room salon worker will come here on a 90-day visa. She now owes the owner $30K.
She will live with either the owner or the manager.

These girls make at least $1K per night. They work six days a week. So by the time their 90-day stay is up, they have paid off their owner and have saved enough to either start a small business in Korea or learn a skill or trade at a school.

I’d say only one out of five go back to Korea. Four out of five of them see how easy it is to make money here so they just decide to stay despite their tourist visa being expired.

You see a lot of them hang out in Broad St and King Sauna in Palisades Park. lol
 

Srhsrh

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Out where I live the girls make much less money. Some are just as pretty as the big city girls and could make that money, but have decided it’s better to fly under the radar and know they won’t make the money. There’s a girl I see here who works in a small town spa, sees 3-5 customers a day and refuses to even give standard service to guys she doesn’t like the look of. But she will expand all the way to FS for a customer she likes who is nice. But she’s playing it for long game, trying to stay here, find a husband and live here permanent.

I know that Thai girl video was a joke, but it’s highly inaccurate with the spa girls I know, and with the girls I’ve hired in Thailand. I’ve never been asked straight up to just send money by either. I have been offered various live in strategies (I’ve done 2 now and your 10k number is way over actual price for your average 20 something spa girl) and also have done dedicated to you whenever you’re in Bangkok paid in advance things. But never straight give me money to buy my family a house kinda thing. Most Thai bar girls are either maximizing fun, or playing games the long game looking for a marriage. Money made that instant was secondary to either approach.
 

kgmspa

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Always about money! When I tell her no money she say so sorry for you! Basically good bye and good luck! In life it's always about the money! :) No money no happy
 

mikemendez

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Do providers really like you or is it always about the money?
Of course they can like you and yes it’s also about the money, it’s how they choose to earn a living, it’s out of necessity. Can you imagine a provider liking several clients per day and not requiring a tip, she wouldn’t last but a couple days, she’d be broke, shop owner would give her the boot as well. Most guys only perceive providers as “only or always about the money.” Don’t let this perception hinder the fact she may actually like you, on whatever level, it can be genuine.
 

mikemendez

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Here’s a love or money quote

Money can help to generate love but it cannot buy love—at most, it can buy sex. It is, however, easier to fall in lovewith a rich person, as money can generate circumstances that are more favorable for love, and living with someone who is wealthy can make life easier.
 

VJLUTZ

Desire is the opposite of death.
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It is really hard to disentangle love and money. Women can call out of love pretty fast when the $$ dries up. I direct you back to the Sam Kinison video I posted earlier.

I once read an article that said to determine if its really "true love", then pretend be to deep in debt (not just simply broke). If they don't run for the hills, then they're probably either crazy or a keeper (or both).
 

Wayne1250

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We are talking about Asian women, but around the world women are mostly the same. Love is very complex, and has many facets to it. Kindness and respect are the two main factors.

Money is a a form of both, I hear guys brag about getting free service. (that means you are putting yourself above them and not really exhibiting either important factor) Yes that may happen occasionally but if you are really supportive of your Love, then you should be happy to pay for her service unless she wants to show her appreciation sometimes. This is the only way she can support her life. In fact if you are her number 1 then perhaps you should be paying more than her other customers.

Love means being generous, not while having sex but in everything. All girls want to feel special and that requires even additional money for small gifts, or going out to lunch or dinner to show appreciation. Your kindness and respect are just as important to showing how much you care about her.

Now we want to feel appreciated too. It is important that they reciprocate from time to time with gifts and picking up the tab at the restaurant occasionally to show us how they care too.

I think my main point is how you treat them with kindness, and respect is the only way you can take any relationship to another level.
 
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