Love or money?

[Koondog]

"In fact if you are her number 1 then perhaps you should be paying more than her other customers."

Totally disagree with this. Number 1 as in 'boyfriend'? One would think if client and provider become closer and closer the price would come way down, not up. I mean what's in it for the guy to pay more at this point? Hey, I'm her number 1, now I can overpay while others get the same for a cheaper price. Not my way of thinking.

 

[Koondog]

We are talking about Asian women, but around the world women are mostly the same. Love is very complex, and has many facets to it. Kindness and respect are the two main factors.

Money is a a form of both, I hear guys brag about getting free service. (that means you are putting yourself above them and not really exhibiting either important factor) Yes that may happen occasionally but if you are really supportive of your Love, then you should be happy to pay for her service unless she wants to show her appreciation sometimes. This is the only way she can support her life. In fact if you are her number 1 then perhaps you should be paying more than her other customers.

Love means being generous, not while having sex but in everything. All girls want to feel special and that requires even additional money for small gifts, or going out to lunch or dinner to show appreciation. Your kindness and respect are just as important to showing how much you care about her.

Now we want to feel appreciated too. It is important that they reciprocate from time to time with gifts and picking up the tab at the restaurant occasionally to show us how they care too.

I think my main point is how you treat them with kindness, and respect is the only way you can take any relationship to another level.

"I hear guys brag about getting free service. (that means you are putting yourself above them and not really exhibiting either important factor) "

Maybe it just means they like certain guys and show their appreciation by not making it a purely transactional encounter? Not like they're going broke by giving a guy they like a break once in awhile.

 

[mikemendez]

We are talking about Asian women, but around the world women are mostly the same. Love is very complex, and has many facets to it. Kindness and respect are the two main factors.

Money is a a form of both, I hear guys brag about getting free service. (that means you are putting yourself above them and not really exhibiting either important factor) Yes that may happen occasionally but if you are really supportive of your Love, then you should be happy to pay for her service unless she wants to show her appreciation sometimes. This is the only way she can support her life. In fact if you are her number 1 then perhaps you should be paying more than her other customers.

Love means being generous, not while having sex but in everything. All girls want to feel special and that requires even additional money for small gifts, or going out to lunch or dinner to show appreciation. Your kindness and respect are just as important to showing how much you care about her.

Now we want to feel appreciated too. It is important that they reciprocate from time to time with gifts and picking up the tab at the restaurant occasionally to show us how they care too.

I think my main point is how you treat them with kindness, and respect is the only way you can take any relationship to another level.

Wayne, I agree some brag about not paying a provider, if it’s in context with thread topic it might not always be bragging. I have had sex with a provider without an expectation of paying her, her choice,, this of course at her place and invite, now visiting same provider at her shop the donation is automatic since she’s working. The extreme couple cases are or have been when a R&T provider will only accept standard or usual tip even though she provided more, a current girl doing this caused me to bring her gifts, my choice, since she won’t accept more money. It’s difficult at times finding her size in clothes, she’s petite. I ain’t to crazy about browsing for clothes in the misses section.

 

[Chiparlor]

"In fact if you are her number 1 then perhaps you should be paying more than her other customers."

@Koondog I agree with Koon because I was told by a provider that I am her nbr one customer. I have been overtipping for some time until a monger shared that he received the same service for less tip. I confronted her about it and she admitted I was the highest tipper for the same service other customers received. From there, I still see her from time to time and lowered my tip. She got it and hushed.

Lesson learned not to overtip anymore. Standard fee or else!

 

[Uniquelyme]

We are talking about Asian women, but around the world women are mostly the same. Love is very complex, and has many facets to it. Kindness and respect are the two main factors.

Money is a a form of both, I hear guys brag about getting free service. (that means you are putting yourself above them and not really exhibiting either important factor) Yes that may happen occasionally but if you are really supportive of your Love, then you should be happy to pay for her service unless she wants to show her appreciation sometimes. This is the only way she can support her life. In fact if you are her number 1 then perhaps you should be paying more than her other customers.

Love means being generous, not while having sex but in everything. All girls want to feel special and that requires even additional money for small gifts, or going out to lunch or dinner to show appreciation. Your kindness and respect are just as important to showing how much you care about her.

Now we want to feel appreciated too. It is important that they reciprocate from time to time with gifts and picking up the tab at the restaurant occasionally to show us how they care too.

I think my main point is how you treat them with kindness, and respect is the only way you can take any relationship to another level.

That second paragraph though?? Your love at a amp?? The rest of your post I mostly agree with. But you love at an amp??!!

 

[Uniquelyme]

"In fact if you are her number 1 then perhaps you should be paying more than her other customers."

@Koondog I agree with Koon because I was told by a provider that I am her nbr one customer. I have been overtipping for some time until a monger shared that he received the same service for less tip. I confronted her about it and she admitted I was the highest tipper for the same service other customers received. From there, I still see her from time to time and lowered my tip. She got it and hushed.

Lesson learned not to overtip anymore. Standard fee or else!

Yes don't over tip.

 

[TGBeldin]

I find it odd:

She thinks you are her favorite customer, so she should charge you less. I can see where that makes sense in a way.

But if you thing she is your favorite, you should be happy to give her less? Seems a bit off to me, and at odds with the thinking above.

I have had women tell me I don't HAVE TO pay them as much because they enjoy my company. But I usually CHOOSE TO pay them the full amount (or a shade more) because I think them worth it.

 

[mikemendez]

I agree with @wayne's “love at an amp” comment, I too love my top girls, although I’m not “in love” with any of them.

 

[mikemendez]

"In fact if you are her number 1 then perhaps you should be paying more than her other customers."

@Koondog I agree with Koon because I was told by a provider that I am her nbr one customer. I have been overtipping for some time until a monger shared that he received the same service for less tip. I confronted her about it and she admitted I was the highest tipper for the same service other customers received. From there, I still see her from time to time and lowered my tip. She got it and hushed.

Lesson learned not to overtip anymore. Standard fee or else!

I have a question for you, “she” considered you her favorite customer? Why? Because you tipped better than others?
Who’s decision was the initial, higher tip amount? Yours or hers?

 

[mikemendez]

Boy, this thread exploded after initially slowing down a bit.
Interesting topic, now it seems more like SH.

 

[Chiparlor]

I have a question for you, “she” considered you her favorite customer? Why? Because you tipped better than others?
Who’s decision was the initial, higher tip amount? Yours or hers?

Hers

 

[Koondog]

That second paragraph though?? Your love at a amp?? The rest of your post I mostly agree with. But you love at an amp??!!

It's weird some mongers think we go to amps so we can overpay for services so a girl can support herself better. Sorry, no sad tears here--- seeing as these girls probably make double the salary of your average american citizen and do it tax free. Fuck that.

 

[Koondog]

"She thinks you are her favorite customer, so she should charge you less. I can see where that makes sense in a way."

I had a situation like this not too long ago. I was seeing a certain amp girl at her 3 stores for about a year. We took it off sight and grew fairly close. She said we were dating and that I was her 'boyfriend'. Cool, she's one of the most attractive girls I have ever met. Let's see where this goes.

Unfortunately, right into the crapper.

As it turned out she STILL wanted money when we had sex and it pretty much killed the relationship. I am like --you would charge your BF for sex? Would you charge your husband? Fucking weird.

She said--- you like me the best, you should take care of me the best. Huh?

I'm like NO, ONCE A GIRL TELLS ME "WE ARE DATING" I DON'T PAY FOR SEX AT THAT POINT. Sorry. Call me crazy. There's plenty of money to be made at work, you need to hit your "BF" up too?

So it just became 2 people knocking heads at that point with 2 totally different expectations of a relationship and it ended almost as quickly as it came. WTF I will never understand the logic of your typical amp girl. Maybe it's a culture clash. Maybe just greed. Maybe just bad communication. I don't know.

Moral of the story should be NEVER get personally involved in the lives of these working girls. It almost never ends well. How could it?

 

[Chiparlor]

Maybe it's a culture clash. Maybe just greed. Maybe just bad communication. I don't know.
All three above: culture clash, greed, and communication.

Moral of the story should be NEVER get personally involved in the lives of these working girls. It almost never ends well.
Learned lesson on that one.

Some of you may know. Some of you may not know. One word is part of culture clash. PM me if you want to know what it is.

 

[sexmajik]

Interesting thread. I've found myself in a situation with one provider who, after our first encounter wanted to sleep over at my place. I've visited her once or twice a week for a few months now and she tells me she loves me and that I'm her boyfriend. She seems sincere though her english is bad and we can't communicate normally. I've taken her out to lunch twice and bought her some lingerie and a pair of jeans. I give her more money than others and I'd feel bad if I tried to change things where I started paying her less. It doesn't feel right to me. This is not a high end provider so service is not expensive to start with. Anyway, I just go with it. I feel like I'm freerolling with this one because there's not much she can ask of me due to her job, so I can have this kind of play acting romance with her without any responsibility. The money is what keeps me free. If she wanted to sleep with me for nothing, I would reject her offer. I'm not doing that with someone who gets railed every day by other men. I don't know, it's kind of a unique experience and I like it. At first I was wondering if she was saying all this shit to entice me to visit her more often, but I don't think so. That's a bit extreme when most providers just send I miss you texts and get what they want often enough.

 

[mikemendez]

Then there are some providers I had in rotation, hot and sexy above the norm, very friendly and accommodating beyond standard, all the perks, yet I made it a point to keep it strictly transactional. It boils down to me covering her donation requirements and she giving me unhindered use of her body.

 

[haaretz]

"She thinks you are her favorite customer, so she should charge you less. I can see where that makes sense in a way."

I had a situation like this not too long ago. I was seeing a certain amp girl at her 3 stores for about a year. We took it off sight and grew fairly close. She said we were dating and that I was her 'boyfriend'. Cool, she's one of the most attractive girls I have ever met. Let's see where this goes.

Unfortunately, right into the crapper.

As it turned out she STILL wanted money when we had sex and it pretty much killed the relationship. I am like --you would charge your BF for sex? Would you charge your husband? Fucking weird.

She said--- you like me the best, you should take care of me the best. Huh?

I'm like NO, ONCE A GIRL TELLS ME "WE ARE DATING" I DON'T PAY FOR SEX AT THAT POINT. Sorry. Call me crazy. There's plenty of money to be made at work, you need to hit your "BF" up too?

So it just became 2 people knocking heads at that point with 2 totally different expectations of a relationship and it ended almost as quickly as it came. WTF I will never understand the logic of your typical amp girl. Maybe it's a culture clash. Maybe just greed. Maybe just bad communication. I don't know.

Moral of the story should be NEVER get personally involved in the lives of these working girls. It almost never ends well. How could it?

Aren't all intimacies transactions of some sort? To your point, I imagine that it must suck to be in your situation and have to pay. Being twice their age and married anyway I don't really believe their talk about boyfriend stuff but for a younger man it must be beyond aggravating.

 

[VJLUTZ]

Yes, it is interesting to see the various perspectives here. For me, though, the AMP life presents some unique challenges/objectives:

1. Getting a girl at a "legit" (or semi legit) shop to give you FS (either in or outside of the spa)
2. Getting a provider to see you outside the spa just because she like your company
3. Getting a provider to give you all the BF perks (including free, raw sex, cooking for you, etc.)

Unless you're Brad Pitt, don't expect to do the above without paying. The trick is to make it happen without paying through the nose.

In a way, it's the ultimate marketing challenge and the product you are selling is: yourself. I've been able to accomplish all of the above with various girls (not every girl, but some). It also won't happen in a single session. You have to gain their trust over time and slowly become their friend & advisor. That usually involves getting their contact info and doing a lot of texting (which is lots cheaper and more effective than frequent visits). But practice makes perfect. For those of us past our prime, achieving these objectives tells us we've still got it -- and there is no better rush than that.

 

[Itslian]

These women need us bc we supply money for the most part to them and their family. The sex part will slowly lose its touch and its a losing proposition. These women will bang anyone that has the cash, enough said. They want cash and feelings play no role here.

 

[TGBeldin]

These women need us bc we supply money for the most part to them and their family. The sex part will slowly lose its touch and its a losing proposition. These women will bang anyone that has the cash, enough said. They want cash and feelings play no role here.

Such a dreadful oversimplification. Feelings differ, but for many, many on both sides of things feelings play a role. Sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. Go back and reread what posters are saying.