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Love or money?

mikemendez

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I wonder how wives respond to this question. You know she loves you, but get laid off from work and experience trouble getting another job, in the meantime you’ll discover things about her you may not like. This is a difficult question to ask where play for pay is involved, especially if you only visit every once in a while, then it’s probably about the money, which is to be expected.
 

haaretz

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I wonder how wives respond to this question. You know she loves you, but get laid off from work and experience trouble getting another job, in the meantime you’ll discover things about her you may not like. This is a difficult question to ask where play for pay is involved, especially if you only visit every once in a while, then it’s probably about the money, which is to be expected.
I agree, I've been in that situation with my wife several years ago, albeit briefly. Saw a side that was not very pleasant.

My companions seem to like me, are happy to see me. Like they've been waiting around in lingerie all day for me to show up and rock their world. Like it's wonderfully normal for a hot young Asian woman to throw herself at me. Yeah.

Take the money away and I'm just another horny, deplorable older guy.
 

VJLUTZ

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I wonder how wives respond to this question. You know she loves you, but get laid off from work and experience trouble getting another job, in the meantime you’ll discover things about her you may not like. This is a difficult question to ask where play for pay is involved, especially if you only visit every once in a while, then it’s probably about the money, which is to be expected.
Bingo. With women, you can't disentangle love and $$. Some may be all about the $$; for others, the linkage may only be subconscious. But once the $$ flow slows (or stops), the link rears its ugly head.

At some level, ALL women want a man to protect them and provide for them. Our status, wealth and ability to make $$ is an integral part of our character. If we lose our jobs or $$, we might imagine that we haven't changed, but the truth is we have.

Even a client-provider relationship that starts out purely transactional can develop into more than that. You might get under her skin and she might even decide she loves you (as she continues to fuck other men), but the $$ is always going to be part of the equation.

The best way to know that its becoming "genuine" is if she'll fuck you outside the spa for free.
 

Koondog

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Bingo. With women, you can't disentangle love and $$. Some may be all about the $$; for others, the linkage may only be subconscious. But once the $$ flow slows (or stops), the link rears its ugly head.

At some level, ALL women want a man to protect them and provide for them. Our status, wealth and ability to make $$ is an integral part of our character. If we lose our jobs or $$, we might imagine that we haven't changed, but the truth is we have.

Even a client-provider relationship that starts out purely transactional can develop into more than that. You might get under her skin and she might even decide she loves you (as she continues to fuck other men), but the $$ is always going to be part of the equation.

The best way to know that its becoming "genuine" is if she'll fuck you outside the spa for free.
"The best way to know that its becoming "genuine" is if she'll fuck you outside the spa for free."

But even then it's not real. Because as she is fucking you for free she is also fucking others for money. If that's love it's not the definition known to most of us. Not like the girl is ever going to give up the paying customers. Even if she supposedly 'gives it all up' and decides she would like to marry, who would trust her after a decade or so of whoring? Sudden allegiance to one man? Call me EXTREMELY skeptical. Ain't gonna happen.
 

VJLUTZ

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"The best way to know that its becoming "genuine" is if she'll fuck you outside the spa for free."

But even then it's not real. Because as she is fucking you for free she is also fucking others for money. If that's love it's not the definition known to most of us. Not like the girl is ever going to give up the paying customers. Even if she supposedly 'gives it all up' and decides she would like to marry, who would trust her after a decade or so of whoring? Sudden allegiance to one man? Call me EXTREMELY skeptical. Ain't gonna happen.
Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting you marry one. A situation where she is your defacto GF (mistress) and goes out with you exclusively during her vacations would be the preferred outcome. So she is spending her free time with you not for $$ or other tangible expectations, but because she likes (or loves) you. It's rare, but it can happen.
 

Koondog

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I brought that up because in the past a had a couple long relationships with 2 different amp girls (seeing them off site for free) who after a couple years wanted to marry. They couldn't understand why I thought the idea of marriage was a non-starter.
 

Koujiao

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Bingo. With women, you can't disentangle love and $$. Some may be all about the $$; for others, the linkage may only be subconscious. But once the $$ flow slows (or stops), the link rears its ugly head.

At some level, ALL women want a man to protect them and provide for them. Our status, wealth and ability to make $$ is an integral part of our character. If we lose our jobs or $$, we might imagine that we haven't changed, but the truth is we have.

Even a client-provider relationship that starts out purely transactional can develop into more than that. You might get under her skin and she might even decide she loves you (as she continues to fuck other men), but the $$ is always going to be part of the equation.

The best way to know that its becoming "genuine" is if she'll fuck you outside the spa for free.
Wake up....

It is inaccurate to thay that all women want you to protect them and provide for them. It is quite the contrary for many. The don't mind having you around, but have their own careers, are smart and independent, and will never surrender their job because they like their career and don't want to be subservient to a partner. Piss them off and they move on.
 

mikemendez

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Its a sad sight to see a man that is dominated by his wife, she directs him in all aspects, "honey can I go play a round of golf with my friends", she may not say no out right, but she sure will make you feel sorry for even asking, you eat what she decides, you dress to her choosing and the list goes on, the home is decorated as she sees fit, all your memorabilia is out in the garage in a small box, be glad your children are still young or in need of your income for college etc, you too are disposable, fuck that. Sex to her isn't a duty, its a tolerable chore and only every once in a while, she's like "okay, just hurry up" "aren't you done yet", double fuck that.
 

marauder1969

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Even if she supposedly 'gives it all up' and decides she would like to marry, who would trust her after a decade or so of whoring? Sudden allegiance to one man? Call me EXTREMELY skeptical. Ain't gonna happen.
After a decade or so, do you think she wants to be with multiple men? You'll be lucky if you still enjoys the act at all....
 

VJLUTZ

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The guys I feel most sorry for are those who married their "dream girl", only to have them turn into a fat, ugly battle-axe. I see this all the time. You're in a restaurant or store and you see this rail-thin guy with this fat, butt ugly wife. Was she like that when they got married? Probably not. But he took care of himself and she didn't. It's a double shame if she's mean and entitled on top of that (which some are). How these guys stay in such a relationship, I'll never know. My first fiancé (who I didn't end up marrying) turned fat/ugly, but not mean. I really feel like I dodged a bullet there. Obviously there are cases where the opposite occurs (pretty wife, fat/ugly guy), but these seem less common. In those cases, my sympathy goes out to the woman.

Yeah, I know that marriage is "for better or for worse". But each partner has a responsibility to give a shit about themselves for the sake of the other. To me, it's an unspoken part of the agreement. If both partners want to let themselves go completely to seed, then I guess they deserve each other.
 

Koondog

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After a decade or so, do you think she wants to be with multiple men? You'll be lucky if you still enjoys the act at all....
For money, yes. One little covert WeChat text request to see her from a former customer and I bet she'd be all over it. I agree 100% about her not enjoying the act.
 

mikemendez

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The guys I feel most sorry for are those who married their "dream girl", only to have them turn into a fat, ugly battle-axe. I see this all the time. You're in a restaurant or store and you see this rail-thin guy with this fat, butt ugly wife. Was she like that when they got married? Probably not. But he took care of himself and she didn't. It's a double shame if she's mean and entitled on top of that (which some are). How these guys stay in such a relationship, I'll never know. My first fiancé (who I didn't end up marrying) turned fat/ugly, but not mean. I really feel like I dodged a bullet there. Obviously there are cases where the opposite occurs (pretty wife, fat/ugly guy), but these seem less common. In those cases, my sympathy goes out to the woman.

Yeah, I know that marriage is "for better or for worse". But each partner has a responsibility to give a shit about themselves for the sake of the other. To me, it's an unspoken part of the agreement. If both partners want to let themselves go completely to seed, then I guess they deserve each other.
The worse case is when a wife talks to the husband like if he were a child and does it in public view, disrespectful, crazy talk, you look over at their kids and they have a look of disdain for spineless daddy. If I meet a guy in this predicament, I’ll happily sponsor his visit to an Amp.
 
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