Love or money?

[TGBeldin]

There is a lot of big city east coast think in this thread. West coast too I suspect, but I knowlittle about that area. I can almost believe 15K a month for some of those.

It is a pipe dream for many others. Far too many places where you can claim you are open 24/7, but if no one walks in your door, the OPEN sign is kind of hollow.

 

[Chiparlor]

Love or Money? I stay connected with two atf providers (r/t or fs refrained). Use your imagination. Their first choice is to work and see repeated customers with appreciation and respect. Some of them will feel more appreciated with love (very seldom). One provider served 56 customers a week from May 12 to May 18 during the 12-hour shift.

A=Customers
B=House fee
C=Tips

Solve X
Equation: X= (A) (B)
or
Equation: X= (A) (C)
or
Equation: X= (A) (B) (C)
or
Equation: X= (A) (B) + (A) (C)

Do not forget that the fertilized ladies have cherry festivals every month and may receive less tips or be on short vacations. As for unfertilized ladies, the nature took its natural course not to fertilize them any longer and do not take breaks for their cherry festivals. However, they may take breaks/vacations from time to time. They will see their peaks and valleys of incomes depending on many factors such as good/bad reviews, weather, sporting events, festivals, incomes and so forth.

 

[Chiparlor]

*festivals, our disposable income, and so forth.

 

[Joestoal]

If there is real love between hub and wife then the outside look wont effect their relationship, in my opinion

 

[Jojor781]

Don't forget, most places girls stay at the place at least 6 days a week. MMS or management dont provide free food. They charge Daily fees. Girls pay for their personal hygiene products & toiletries, cab fees ( most avoid public transport), Costumes, lingerie, make up, other clothes ( they don't shop at NordstromRack) all come from their pocket. Then plastic surgeries, that lift/ this lift/ big boobs, maintaining jobless husbands, kids, parents and balancing favorite customers who think girls are in love with them. It's a tough job!! They deserve every penny they make.

 

[Chiparlor]

The issue was Love or Money. I interpret Money as Income. All of us know about expenses because we handle expenses every day. I agree they deserve every penny.

 

[Uniquelyme]

Its a sad sight to see a man that is dominated by his wife, she directs him in all aspects, "honey can I go play a round of golf with my friends", she may not say no out right, but she sure will make you feel sorry for even asking, you eat what she decides, you dress to her choosing and the list goes on, the home is decorated as she sees fit, all your memorabilia is out in the garage in a small box, be glad your children are still young or in need of your income for college etc, you too are disposable, fuck that. Sex to her isn't a duty, its a tolerable chore and only every once in a while, she's like "okay, just hurry up" "aren't you done yet", double fuck that.

Real Men don't let ANY Woman take advantage of them. You have outlined what Men who have lost their way let happen to them. No Woman would ever try this bullshit on me.

 

[Uniquelyme]

"The best way to know that its becoming "genuine" is if she'll fuck you outside the spa for free."

But even then it's not real. Because as she is fucking you for free she is also fucking others for money. If that's love it's not the definition known to most of us. Not like the girl is ever going to give up the paying customers. Even if she supposedly 'gives it all up' and decides she would like to marry, who would trust her after a decade or so of whoring? Sudden allegiance to one man? Call me EXTREMELY skeptical. Ain't gonna happen.

Lol yet I see guys on here post "lucky the Man who marries this girl" like fucking really. Lucky!! Smh never turn a pro into a housewife. For that matter they should say never turn a hobbyist into a husband. Cause they age and money well we already know the power money has over all ages.

 

[Chiparlor]

I mentioned at message #42 that their first choice is to work. I had an appointment with a provider yesterday. We chatted for about 20 minutes before going to work on massage. She indicated that most Asians who came to America do not know how to read/write/speak English wanted to work including enjoying the freedom in this country. In order for them to work is to work at places where English is not required for them to work and massage parlors are one of them. Otherwise, most Asian immigrants would be homeless. All in all, I give them credit for working in our country to their best abilities without depending on our government. Therefore, I think that our government ought to appreciate them working in lieu of interventions with legal clauses.

 

[VJLUTZ]

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Lol yet I see guys on here post "lucky the Man who marries this girl" like fucking really. Lucky!! Smh never turn a pro into a housewife. For that matter they should say never turn a hobbyist into a husband. Cause they age and money well we already know the power money has over all ages.

There is no one right answer. Everyone has to do what's best for them. I have no regrets about getting married, though I would be very unhappy if I could not engage in the hobby. Sometimes though, it sucks not having the same degree of freedom as a single man. Having to constantly cover your tracks can be a real pain-in-the-ass.

Personally, I would never marry a pro, but apparently some mongers have and its worked out. At the end of the day, any relationship is a leap of faith and a roll of the dice. Marriage even more so.

 

[Jojor781]

My grand pop told me this; marry a whore in the bed, you will be happy. Marry a dead fish in the bed, you will be forever unhappy. With empty pipes and clean mind you will conquer the world.

 

[VJLUTZ]

My grand pop told me this; marry a whore in the bed, you will be happy. Marry a dead fish in the bed, you will be forever unhappy. With empty pipes and clean mind you will conquer the world.

An interesting philosophy but, with all due respect to your Grand Pop, I disagree. There's tons more to a relationship than just sex. You have to be able to rely on and trust your partner. They have to have your back. In fact, the most important characteristic in a partner is sanity. Without that, everything else falls apart..

The problem with marrying a whore, or even a slut, is that they're probably lacking in trustworthiness and sanity. While the sex will be great (sometimes), you will never be sure you're the only one getting it. In fact, as time goes on, chances increase that she's cucking you. You'll know what I mean the first time you're wondering WTF she is at midnight. And I'm sure that will cause your pipes to back up and your mind to cloud like few things can. I've seen this in action on both sides. I've dated sluts and AMP girls; its only fun, but only for a while. On the flip side, I've also seen how they treat their supposed SOs while they were doing me on the side. Again, its a fun romp in the short term, but you'd have to be crazy delusional to marry one and think it's the ticket to happiness. Maybe in ~5% of the cases it is, but those are not betting odds. The better way to go is marry a sane, pretty woman who you can trust and [discretely] step out on her if you're not getting satisfied.

The last thing to consider is menopause. It effects them all, even the whores and sluts. When it comes to menopause, every woman is a ticking time bomb.

 

[charliebrown]

Any long relationship between two human beings takes effort to assure success. Once we realize this, we will find that sex is not a top priority.

The problem men have mentally is they actually think that they can run around and fuck whomever, whenever they want and it is OK, but their woman can only fuck him.

If we are intelligent human beings and we go into the world whoring our mind for money and coming home at the end of the day thinking we are the greatest, most noble person in the world.

Your wife is a beautiful young woman with a body that every man would pay a premium to spend some time with and she does the same exact thing we do only with a different part of her body.

Why do we (collectively) look down on this occupation more than we look down on any other occupation. If there was a doctor scripting OXI like a rouge drug dealer and his beautiful wife selling her body like a rouge whore, which of the two parties is the true menace to society?

Personally, if I was married to a woman who loved, supported and respected me but headed to a studio vs an office every day. I would absolutely not begrudge her.

 

[Uniquelyme]

Any long relationship between two human beings takes effort to assure success. Once we realize this, we will find that sex is not a top priority.

The problem men have mentally is they actually think that they can run around and fuck whomever, whenever they want and it is OK, but their woman can only fuck him.

If we are intelligent human beings and we go into the world whoring our mind for money and coming home at the end of the day thinking we are the greatest, most noble person in the world.

Your wife is a beautiful young woman with a body that every man would pay a premium to spend some time with and she does the same exact thing we do only with a different part of her body.

Why do we (collectively) look down on this occupation more than we look down on any other occupation. If there was a doctor scripting OXI like a rouge drug dealer and his beautiful wife selling her body like a rouge whore, which of the two parties is the true menace to society?

Personally, if I was married to a woman who loved, supported and respected me but headed to a studio vs an office every day. I would absolutely not begrudge her.

Sounds like somebody wants to be a Cuck.

While I agree with you if a Man is fucking everything around he can't seriously expect his wife to not do the same. That's just not fair.

 

[Uniquelyme]

An interesting philosophy but, with all due respect to your Grand Pop, I disagree. There's tons more to a relationship than just sex. You have to be able to rely on and trust your partner. They have to have your back. In fact, the most important characteristic in a partner is sanity. Without that, everything else falls apart..

The problem with marrying a whore, or even a slut, is that they're probably lacking in trustworthiness and sanity. While the sex will be great (sometimes), you will never be sure you're the only one getting it. In fact, as time goes on, chances increase that she's cucking you. You'll know what I mean the first time you're wondering WTF she is at midnight. And I'm sure that will cause your pipes to back up and your mind to cloud like few things can. I've seen this in action on both sides. I've dated sluts and AMP girls; its only fun, but only for a while. On the flip side, I've also seen how they treat their supposed SOs while they were doing me on the side. Again, its a fun romp in the short term, but you'd have to be crazy delusional to marry one and think it's the ticket to happiness. Maybe in ~5% of the cases it is, but those are not betting odds. The better way to go is marry a sane, pretty woman who you can trust and [discretely] step out on her if you're not getting satisfied.

The last thing to consider is menopause. It effects them all, even the whores and sluts. When it comes to menopause, every woman is a ticking time bomb.

The 5% cases is exactly what I was talking about When I said it' s a long shot thinking any Man marrying these pros is a "Lucky Man". Can it work out of course there are exceptions. No two relationships are alike. However it is unlikely in the U.S. Where divorce rates already high af at over 50pct.

 

[VJLUTZ]

Any long relationship between two human beings takes effort to assure success. Once we realize this, we will find that sex is not a top priority.

The problem men have mentally is they actually think that they can run around and fuck whomever, whenever they want and it is OK, but their woman can only fuck him.

If we are intelligent human beings and we go into the world whoring our mind for money and coming home at the end of the day thinking we are the greatest, most noble person in the world.

Your wife is a beautiful young woman with a body that every man would pay a premium to spend some time with and she does the same exact thing we do only with a different part of her body.

Why do we (collectively) look down on this occupation more than we look down on any other occupation. If there was a doctor scripting OXI like a rouge drug dealer and his beautiful wife selling her body like a rouge whore, which of the two parties is the true menace to society?

Personally, if I was married to a woman who loved, supported and respected me but headed to a studio vs an office every day. I would absolutely not begrudge her.

CB, a couple of things:
1. I don't think anyone on these boards said that AMP girls, or any kind of prostitute, is a menace to society.
2. As a user of their service, I rely on and appreciate them. However, in some ways, it's hard not to look down on them. We all know that when a woman uses her pussy to make big $$, she is taking the easy way out. At a minimum, it's not a pathway open to a man. For the most part, a woman can get by on her looks and sex; a man cannot. Does it require skill? Yes, but not the kind you need to go to school for. Servicing multiple men per day based entirely on $$ is a dirty biz. No matter how beautiful the girl or how much I like her does not change that.
3. If I marry someone, I don't want them being a whore or slut, period. You can say this is unfair (especially if I cheat on her), but its got a biological basis. If your wife has a baby you assume its yours and raise it. That has huge implications in many dimensions (time, $$, emotional, etc.). If it turns out to be someone else's kid, then that's a huge misallocation of your resources. If I ever found out my wife was carrying someone else's kid, it would be over immediately. If your wife is sleeping around, the chances she is not carrying your child are pretty high.
4. No one wants their daughter to be a whore or a slut. But no one cares if their son is a "player".

Yes, I'm a sexist asshole, but I'm far from the only one. It is what it is.

 

[Jojor781]

Any long relationship between two human beings takes effort to assure success. Once we realize this, we will find that sex is not a top priority.

The problem men have mentally is they actually think that they can run around and fuck whomever, whenever they want and it is OK, but their woman can only fuck him.

If we are intelligent human beings and we go into the world whoring our mind for money and coming home at the end of the day thinking we are the greatest, most noble person in the world.

Your wife is a beautiful young woman with a body that every man would pay a premium to spend some time with and she does the same exact thing we do only with a different part of her body.

Why do we (collectively) look down on this occupation more than we look down on any other occupation? If there was a doctor scripting OXI like a rouge drug dealer and his beautiful wife selling her body like a rouge whore, which of the two parties is the true menace to society?

Personally, if I was married to a woman who loved, supported and respected me but headed to a studio vs an office every day. I would absolutely not begrudge her.

Years ago, I used to have different views, and those views came from our American Macho-man, hyper sexist, deeply racist/ religiously influential culture. We are born that way. When I started traveling for work, I saw a different world. When AMP girls begin telling stories about their earlier lives, and I witnessed the truth in their own countries from my eyes, it opened eyes. (I have personally visited a few families) I stopped judging people.

I am addicted to this hobby. I play hard. Spend an enormous amount of money, and I have no regrets!

Back at home, If these girls had opportunities to study in English, not with their native languages, Don't forget bro we will be the ones servicing them in tiny studios.

 

[Uniquelyme]

Years ago, I used to have different views, and those views came from our American Macho-man, hyper sexist, deeply racist/ religiously influential culture. We are born that way. When I started traveling for work, I saw a different world. When AMP girls begin telling stories about their earlier lives, and I witnessed the truth in their own countries from my eyes, it opened eyes. (I have personally visited a few families) I stopped judging people.

I am addicted to this hobby. I play hard. Spend an enormous amount of money, and I have no regrets!

Back at home, If these girls had opportunities to study in English, not with their native languages, Don't forget bro we will be the ones servicing them in tiny studios.

Pure speculation if they spoke English well. They would be much more so into American culture. Ik a few Asian American Women and they act similar to caucasian Women. So once a Woman is born and raised in U. S. they are completely different than what they would have been being raised outside of the U.S.

 

[haaretz]

Any long relationship between two human beings takes effort to assure success. Once we realize this, we will find that sex is not a top priority.

The problem men have mentally is they actually think that they can run around and fuck whomever, whenever they want and it is OK, but their woman can only fuck him.

If we are intelligent human beings and we go into the world whoring our mind for money and coming home at the end of the day thinking we are the greatest, most noble person in the world.

Your wife is a beautiful young woman with a body that every man would pay a premium to spend some time with and she does the same exact thing we do only with a different part of her body.

Why do we (collectively) look down on this occupation more than we look down on any other occupation. If there was a doctor scripting OXI like a rouge drug dealer and his beautiful wife selling her body like a rouge whore, which of the two parties is the true menace to society?

Personally, if I was married to a woman who loved, supported and respected me but headed to a studio vs an office every day. I would absolutely not begrudge her.

With all respect, why are you posting? If my wife was putting out I wouldn't be here.

I love and appreciate my companions. I was a married incel for 15 years until I stepped out. They've made me a better husband and an easier person to be with.

 

[charliebrown]

With all respect, why are you posting? If my wife was putting out I wouldn't be here.

I love and appreciate my companions. I was a married incel for 15 years until I stepped out. They've made me a better husband and an easier person to be with.

When did I every say my wife was putting out. Before menopause her sex drive was lower than mine but adequate enough to prevent me from going crazy. After menopause it dropped like a rock. I, like you, enjoy a bit of fun periodically because I am tired of jerking off and can afford not to jerk off.

VJ, I understand your point.

I am a little more open minded than most. If I had a daughter in the business, I would absolutely not think any differently of her.

We as a society program our women to go to a good college and meet a nice young man with potential and live a happy and fulfilling life. Most parents are letting their wonderful cherished virgin daughters go into huge personal debt while getting fucked for free by a bunch of guys with no money. If that same young woman was P2P minded and instead of fucking young poor students all night but choose older established men with money, she can graduate being fucked the same number of times as her roommate but not in the unburdened debt of her counterpart.

I do not see a woman marketing, selling and her assets any different than every one of us in the work force. As a matter of fact, independents have to work pretty diligently finding and retaining clients to keep her cash flow going.