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Dating a provider?
- Thread starter rya550
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I’ve met like 2 or 3 girls (agency or Indy not AMP ladies) in this hobby who have shared some things with me - real names, family details, personal social media, etc. it’s nice to feel that personal connection. And I’ve tried to nudge them along into maybe turning it into a more FWB situation but I know what they’re looking for and if they really wanted to hangout They would tell me straight up and let me know. Or if they were truly bold text me unsolicited and say they wanted to hang out as friends.
I’ve simply decided that I’ll try to make the most of it and get whatever freebies I can out of it during the date. One girl in particular I would totally try to date (if I were unattached IRL) and I know her family details and personal situation pretty well. And honestly I think I could handle it as a having fun situation. But if it were ever to happen and she wanted to take it further. I’d have to take a long hard look at the situation and decide if it’s worth it in the long run. Basically the most selfish way to look at love and a relationship is how much of their bullshit are you prepared to put up with and will they do the same for you? And remember their bullshit might very well include continuing this lifestyle and while you might get a lot of benefits from it (especially they have friends in this world too that are looking to have fun) You’re going to have to resign yourself to the fact that they are doing whatever it is they agree to behind closed doors away from you.
I’ve simply decided that I’ll try to make the most of it and get whatever freebies I can out of it during the date. One girl in particular I would totally try to date (if I were unattached IRL) and I know her family details and personal situation pretty well. And honestly I think I could handle it as a having fun situation. But if it were ever to happen and she wanted to take it further. I’d have to take a long hard look at the situation and decide if it’s worth it in the long run. Basically the most selfish way to look at love and a relationship is how much of their bullshit are you prepared to put up with and will they do the same for you? And remember their bullshit might very well include continuing this lifestyle and while you might get a lot of benefits from it (especially they have friends in this world too that are looking to have fun) You’re going to have to resign yourself to the fact that they are doing whatever it is they agree to behind closed doors away from you.
Oh I would honestly expect to catch lightning in a bottle first. I have a life away from this as I’m sure most other guys do. This is stress relief and fun and fantasy fulfillment. If you think you’re finding a girlfriend or wife here you’re sadly mistaken. As Tyrion Lannister said “you’ve come to the wrong place”
Like I said - I’d totally try and see if I could turn it into a FWB or freebies with hanging out. And I’d be fine with that knowing the business and personal. Hell even turn it into a SB situation. But if she were to start talking about meeting Mom and Dad, well that’s when you have to do some serious soul searching. Guys like us in further stages of adulthood and most likely with other mitigating circumstances can get it, unfortunately guys who are younger or emotionally immature never will.
Like I said - I’d totally try and see if I could turn it into a FWB or freebies with hanging out. And I’d be fine with that knowing the business and personal. Hell even turn it into a SB situation. But if she were to start talking about meeting Mom and Dad, well that’s when you have to do some serious soul searching. Guys like us in further stages of adulthood and most likely with other mitigating circumstances can get it, unfortunately guys who are younger or emotionally immature never will.
I got friends that are provider and I met them at work. Today we are friends for example COVID-19 affect food supplies so she call me up upset saying all the markets by her are empty and closed and she does have groceries. I tell her to text me her list since the korean market still had good stock but a little more pricey then Chinese markets. I get the list head out and pick up the items and drive to flushing bring the groceries to her apartmen. Another provider that I’m friend with ask if I can help her move to another apartment so outside of work they are people like you and me. Theres a ladies I became friends with that’s on the flushing site so I bring her books to learn English and encourage her to make time to study and her English is getting better. I also dated a lot of providers outside of work and some came and went and others either became friends or only look at it from a client perspective.
Just another type of transaction. And I honestly think you were the one who got the better end of the deal. She needed cover, you provided it inadvertently and were able to have fun at a discounted rate at the bare minimum if not for nothing (with the exception of possibly dinner and entertainment costs)
Just know it's all just a game.
Two things I want to do. Develop a board and/or video game called the "Spa Game". I have not decided how many levels it goes into the rabbit hole and how the player can climb his way out to win the final level.
The other is to write an auto biography about the do's, the dont's, and all of the craziest things that happened along the way.
It''s a good thing I have a great memory. I can still recite hole by hole the best rounds of golf I ever had. Including a 6 under part round where I was 7 under going into the 17th hole.
Two things I want to do. Develop a board and/or video game called the "Spa Game". I have not decided how many levels it goes into the rabbit hole and how the player can climb his way out to win the final level.
The other is to write an auto biography about the do's, the dont's, and all of the craziest things that happened along the way.
It''s a good thing I have a great memory. I can still recite hole by hole the best rounds of golf I ever had. Including a 6 under part round where I was 7 under going into the 17th hole.
I have made the mistake of trying to date a single mom I met through this hobby . Beautiful girl , just divorced , needed me so she went into this business as it offered flexibility and lots of money as she tried modeling didn’t work out . Anyway , I fell hook line and sinker . She gave me her number, I asked if I could come over her place and she allowed it when her kid was at school but was so petrified about her toddler finding out that she rarely made time for me , I tried almost every week to see her but she claimed it was due to the kid but she knew I was not single and said where is this going to go ? Would you leave her for me ? I had to be honest . I wanted friends with benefits and she told me she had love for me but how could she put all of her love into me when I can’t be with her so that’s her claim as to why she didn’t want the kid to meet me 
. Yes , I always have her money when I saw her . I thought it was the right thing to do because she had a kid and I was at her place . I mean stunning Monica Bellucci looking girl ! She moved away with her step dad almost 2 years ago . Long story short if you can’t commit to the girl don’t even bother as we’re all human ! We both want something
. Yes , I always have her money when I saw her . I thought it was the right thing to do because she had a kid and I was at her place . I mean stunning Monica Bellucci looking girl ! She moved away with her step dad almost 2 years ago . Long story short if you can’t commit to the girl don’t even bother as we’re all human ! We both want something
I have made the mistake of trying to date a single mom I met through this hobby . Beautiful girl , just divorced , needed me so she went into this business as it offered flexibility and lots of money as she tried modeling didn’t work out . Anyway , I fell hook line and sinker . She gave me her number, I asked if I could come over her place and she allowed it when her kid was at school but was so petrified about her toddler finding out that she rarely made time for me , I tried almost every week to see her but she claimed it was due to the kid but she knew I was not single and said where is this going to go ? Would you leave her for me ? I had to be honest . I wanted friends with benefits and she told me she had love for me but how could she put all of her love into me when I can’t be with her so that’s her claim as to why she didn’t want the kid to meet me . Yes , I always have her money when I saw her . I thought it was the right thing to do because she had a kid and I was at her place . I mean stunning Monica Bellucci looking girl ! She moved away with her step dad almost 2 years ago . Long story short if you can’t commit to the girl don’t even bother as we’re all human ! We both want something
. Yes , I always have her money when I saw her . I thought it was the right thing to do because she had a kid and I was at her place . I mean stunning Monica Bellucci looking girl ! She moved away with her step dad almost 2 years ago . Long story short if you can’t commit to the girl don’t even bother as we’re all human ! We both want something
A few things.
1) she probably makes more money than you do. Are you going to replace that?
2) most if not all, have a few screws loose. Who doesn’t, but don’t get involved if you don’t enjoy drama.
3) she fucks for money! It will take emotional security to take that on. I didn’t have it when I was younger.
That being said, if you have a chance to find a special occasion for her, it can be great. For me, it was showing a K-girl cherry blossoms in NYC.
1) she probably makes more money than you do. Are you going to replace that?
2) most if not all, have a few screws loose. Who doesn’t, but don’t get involved if you don’t enjoy drama.
3) she fucks for money! It will take emotional security to take that on. I didn’t have it when I was younger.
That being said, if you have a chance to find a special occasion for her, it can be great. For me, it was showing a K-girl cherry blossoms in NYC.
Very good points.
The top girls at AW, AL, PH and EPM make at least $20K a month (before COVID-19). Plus another several thousand a month from their rich customer, boyfriend or sugar daddy so they’re making very good money.
The Chinese providers are humble with the money that they make. But the Koreans become a bit arrogant. lol
I know one Chinese provider who left the business and her boyfriend in California sends her $30K a month.
Last October, I saw her at Mohegan Sun. She is a high roller over there so she takes the limousine with her friends.
She told me to join her and her friends for dinner so when I showed up, I saw several providers from AL and PH. lol
Anyway, I have no emotions attached to these women and it’s never smooth and there is drama but I’m enjoying the ride.
The top girls at AW, AL, PH and EPM make at least $20K a month (before COVID-19). Plus another several thousand a month from their rich customer, boyfriend or sugar daddy so they’re making very good money.
The Chinese providers are humble with the money that they make. But the Koreans become a bit arrogant. lol
I know one Chinese provider who left the business and her boyfriend in California sends her $30K a month.
Last October, I saw her at Mohegan Sun. She is a high roller over there so she takes the limousine with her friends.
She told me to join her and her friends for dinner so when I showed up, I saw several providers from AL and PH. lol
Anyway, I have no emotions attached to these women and it’s never smooth and there is drama but I’m enjoying the ride.
I think that you have assess the girls by a few simple categories to determine whether you would want to or can afford to date them or not.
Economically: Are you punching above your weight class? If you can't afford a civie in her league, you shouldn't waste your time. If you can afford whatever level of relationship you are seeking, then you need to ask if this is the person you want to invest your capital in.
Culturally: Is she ABC, KBC, or Americanized-in-general? How much do you really know about her culture and the expectations. If you are looking for fun, then you can just Google for some facts. If you are looking for a long term partner, you may want to live in that culture for at least a few months and understand the social norms. Whatever that norm is, will be what you are getting.
Sexually: Did you meet an innocent FOTB foot-rub girl, or did you BBFS/CIM and decide that you love how she handles your pipe? Her past with you and other clients will be at the center of your relationship unless you decide to move away and surpass her economic expectations. If she is a traveling provider, you may not want to relocate to her former client base.
Socially: Can you live in each other's social circle? If that is her "hand only" spa girls at KTV, it may be fun for a while. But can you take her anywhere in your circle? Will her presence in your life be damaging to your social circle?
If any of these categories pose a problem, you may just want to keep it transactional or FWB if you make it that far.
I do believe you can have a real relationship with a spa girl and get past the initial lies that protect you both. I think it is easier with simpler ladies that work at truly at legit spas vs. the girls earning $10-$20K a month from processing pipe. Just remember, if you can't transition from the transactional nature of a spa visit, it is not a relationship. It's an outcall.
Economically: Are you punching above your weight class? If you can't afford a civie in her league, you shouldn't waste your time. If you can afford whatever level of relationship you are seeking, then you need to ask if this is the person you want to invest your capital in.
Culturally: Is she ABC, KBC, or Americanized-in-general? How much do you really know about her culture and the expectations. If you are looking for fun, then you can just Google for some facts. If you are looking for a long term partner, you may want to live in that culture for at least a few months and understand the social norms. Whatever that norm is, will be what you are getting.
Sexually: Did you meet an innocent FOTB foot-rub girl, or did you BBFS/CIM and decide that you love how she handles your pipe? Her past with you and other clients will be at the center of your relationship unless you decide to move away and surpass her economic expectations. If she is a traveling provider, you may not want to relocate to her former client base.
Socially: Can you live in each other's social circle? If that is her "hand only" spa girls at KTV, it may be fun for a while. But can you take her anywhere in your circle? Will her presence in your life be damaging to your social circle?
If any of these categories pose a problem, you may just want to keep it transactional or FWB if you make it that far.
I do believe you can have a real relationship with a spa girl and get past the initial lies that protect you both. I think it is easier with simpler ladies that work at truly at legit spas vs. the girls earning $10-$20K a month from processing pipe. Just remember, if you can't transition from the transactional nature of a spa visit, it is not a relationship. It's an outcall.
