Seeking Arrangments (& other Sugar Daddy sites)

[Koondog]

How can you tell what country they log in from? You kinda just have to take their word where their location says, no?

 

[Njgent]

How can you tell what country they log in from? You kinda just have to take their word where their location says, no?

Unless they have the option to display the country turned off in their profile settings, the most "Recent" country of log in is listed directly under their profile photo. Now they could use a VPN to display whatever country they want, but I don't believe most would even know what a VPN is.

 

[Chache55]

So much scamming and time wasting but if you have the time you will not get better value anywhere than on that site the quality is a1 but there is so much hassle sometimes

 

[Koondog]

I still don't get why it's free for women to join. We are all benefitting on that site---especially THEM financially. Yet the guys are the ones who get hit coming and going. Go figure.

 

[Montco422]

Top quality women are often listed as Premium (aka Paid) members. That's what doesn't make sense to me. If you were a hot woman, and a basic membership was free, why on Earth would you feel the need to upgrade to a paid level? I avoid Premium SA women for that reason - figure they're either fakes or scams looking for a higher profile.

 

[Njgent]

This blog lists the features for the various membership levels.

https://blog.seeking.com/2018/02/13/seeking-memberships-best

 

[rongetcha]

Settle for the less than hot ones. Do not pay any SB $600, these women are delusional. Your best bet is a coed or single mom who needs the extra cash and will appreciate your attention. Also, they become very frisky and desperate towards the end of the month as next months bills are coming due. It takes work to weed out the garbage. i tried it for awhile and dropped it. Not for me. And don't assume that just because these women are not pros that they are not fucking multiple men. The fact they they are on SA gives it way. Have fun.

I've paid plenty $500-600 ..
that's a 50% discount to a typical provider. I do at least 4 hour fuckfests so it boils down to about 150 an hour.

 

[rongetcha]

SA is dangerous. You have to be aware that some of these women may try to blackmail you or extort you or cry victim 10 years from now. Pay a pro and that's the end of it. Food for thought.

IDK about that. Been on SA for 6 yrs and met many many girls and never had those types of issues.

 

[rongetcha]

Didi, ASHP's comments very much mirror my own. The fundamental point is I treat them like "real people". Too many of their clients treat them like a commodity, or a less than equal person (read Unique's posts and you will get an idea of what I mean, especially the less than positive way he uses "Pro"). Most the women I see on a recurring basis charge in the 200 to 300 dollar per hour range, some a little more, some a little less--a lot depends on the city, but age and looks and class all influence it.

I will set up a 3 hr session the first time. Dinner someplace quiet and reasonably nice, maybe a drink afterwards, then back to my hotel or her place. Almost invariably the "3 hrs" turns into more than that, but that's her call. 2 hrs out and 2 hrs in is more the norm, but never expected. Second time, again 2 or 3 hrs, time to talk--ask about her as a person based upon things she said the first time, etc.; maybe a movie or a walk through a park followed by hot chocolate and a pastry before the bedroom play. I treat her like I would any date, any I find the extra effort, attention, and SMALL extra cash is almost always well rewarded.

At that point things vary. Several times one has shown up with an overnight bag the next time, and asked if she can stay--in that case the extra time is off the clock. If I am particularly interested in having her stay, I will ask if it is possible, and how much it would be--typically her web site price is 6 to 8 times her hourly rate but what she quotes me is often significantly less. She knows I am not going to expect to spend the whole night fucking, and I will treat her like a date, not a piece of pussy.

For those I have been seeing for years, all rules are negotiable. There are a couple I never talk money with at all. I pay them the 3 hr rate plus meals/activities/travel if appropriate/often a gift or two, and it's open ended--a few hours, overnight, or a weekend at a cabin by the lake. They know I will treat them fairly, I know they will treat me fairly as well. One stays with me when she is in town, and considers the room and meals sufficient, but I know her well enough that I let her stay there even when I am out of town, and I stay at her place when I'm there for work.

Sorry I don't have a simple answer for you, but it's all about chemistry, respect, and trust.

I've had great success on SA and currently have 5 Sa girls on rotation. Every few months I pair a few up for threesomes. In all case the only date I've been on was the initial meet for coffee of a drink. Never go to dinner as it's a waste of time. 100% of our time together is in a hotel room for several hours . All in I'm paying what amounts to about 150 an hour .

 

[nycballetlover]

I've been on the site for close to 8 years and have met and beded over 40 ladies. A couple lasted 2 years or more. Some only were good for 1 or 2 meets. About a dozen never got past the initial meeting for drinks or coffee. Of the 40, some were obvious pros.

A few tips:

- Never discuss money or hint of intimacy on the site. You can get banned. Always discuss details via text.
- If your conversation goes very very south, either on the site or via text, block the profile before she gets a chance to report you.
- Do not ever agree to a "meeting fee" or to advance them money to prove that you are real or serious. They are definitely scammers or rinsers
- Confirm your initial meeting a few hours before. Even then, I've had 8 or 10 that were no shows. Some have offered lame excuses as to not showing up and want to reschedule. I fell for that excuse 2 or 3 time and they stood me up again. Now it is one strike and you are out.
- Always check what country they are logging into from
- Be observant as to what their location is. Frequent changes in their location indicates a possible pro/scammer
- Use a burner phone/number. If you get a text/call from an unknown number threatening to blackmail you due to having offered to exchange money for sex, ignore it (hopefully you did not divulge any personnel info in any of your communications with these women)
- Do not fall for pleas for immediate money for such reasons as they have no food in the frig and they or their children are hungry, they want to get their nails/hair done so they look good when you meet, they need money upfront for a Uber so they can get to you, etc etc etc. The scams are endless.
- The arrangement starts when the panties hit the floor

This is definitely good info from someone experienced, will save yall a lot of time and money!

Unfortunately as many have already noticed, once you've eliminated these, there's no one left. It's indeed a sad site right now, hope it'll come back at some point

 

[nycballetlover]

I've had great success on SA and currently have 5 Sa girls on rotation. Every few months I pair a few up for threesomes. In all case the only date I've been on was the initial meet for coffee of a drink. Never go to dinner as it's a waste of time. 100% of our time together is in a hotel room for several hours . All in I'm paying what amounts to about 150 an hour .

Not everyone wants sex only. There's a lot more benefits than just sex with an SB

 

[Koondog]

It seemed the prettiest Asian girls I talked to lied and said they were in the USA only to find out they were in China or Singapore. I don't bother with the Manhattan girls they have an mega-inflated idea of their value and ask for stupid amounts of money.

I told one girl who wanted hundreds of bucks JUST TO MEET that this is a hook-up site and nothing more then she sent me multiple texts defining what a 'sugar daddy' is and how wrong I am. The site is ridiculous.

 

[nycballetlover]

Well here's a tale that just happened to me, anybody who's on SA or thinking of joining should listen up. Don't joke around with Canadians, it could get you banned.

Seriously. Got a message from a girl in Toronto, and I answered with something like "Hey, get me Canadian citizenship and I'll be your Sugar Daddy. Hell, I'll be your real Daddy." Big joke, right?
Next -- today -- I get banned from SA. When I ask why, they reply exactly as follows:

"Thank you for reaching out to us regarding your account status. Unfortunately, we have obtained and verified information that indicates you are looking for Green Card/Visas. This is not only a violation of our Terms of Use, but also legally a criminal offense.

You are henceforth banned from SeekingArrangement and any of our sister sites. Please be advised: we maintain the right to inform the appropriate authorities of any criminal activity conducted through our site, and we rigidly comply with any and all law enforcement investigations/legal action concerning crimes conducted therein. Our decision is final and any future inquiries about this suspension will not receive a response."

Now, I'm just 10 days away from my paid 90-day membership expiring, and I wasn't going to renew, so no big whoop. But let this serve as a warning to any of you looking to take a dive in the Sugar Bowl.

Don't kid around with Canadians.

Your joke wasn't even funny, so yeah, its a shame you got banned for that

 

[Koondog]

Another wanted an allowance for a couple weeks and not even meet.

I'm like you're expecting quite a bit from a stranger aren't you? What sane guy is going to send you an 'allowance' for nothing in return but a promise to meet in the future?

It's like you can't even get on the same page with these girls.

I love it when they start off with, "I'm not interested in meeting anyone at the moment..."

So what the hell are you doing on this site? Guys are trying to get laid and get laid YESTERDAY--they don't want to hear silly shit like that.

 

[rongetcha]

Not everyone wants sex only. There's a lot more benefits than just sex with an SB

If those benefits include chilling with a drink and engaging in conversation I get plenty of that except rather than in a semi private restaurant setting we are on a bed with her in bra and panty biding time before my next blow job.,

 

[didi88]

If those benefits include chilling with a drink and engaging in conversation I get plenty of that except rather than in a semi private restaurant setting we are on a bed with her in bra and panty biding time before my next blow job.,

The issue also depends on whether you’re married or not. A married guy who needs discretion doesn’t have the opportunity to wine and dine these girls, so meeting behind closed doors is the only option, for the most part. If you’re single, obviously no limitations

 

[rongetcha]

The issue also depends on whether you’re married or not. A married guy who needs discretion doesn’t have the opportunity to wine and dine these girls, so meeting behind closed doors is the only option, for the most part. If you’re single, obviously no limitations

I'm married but if I wanted to do the dinner thing I've no problem in Manhattan as there are a million utr places. I just do not see the point when it's not a required step towards the ultimate goal. Just a waste of time .

 

[didi88]

I'm married but if I wanted to do the dinner thing I've no problem in Manhattan as there are a million utr places. I just do not see the point when it's not a required step towards the ultimate goal. Just a waste of time .

I’m married also and I’ve done the restaurant meetings in the past. Not to reach the goal of getting them into bed later, but just to enjoy some time with a girl I like. Usually this has happened after we’ve met BCD a few times already. But eventually I stopped doing this because there was always the fear I’d be seen or run into someone I knew. It’s actually happened to me in Manhattan a few times, but fortunately not when I was with another woman

 

[rongetcha]

I’m married also and I’ve done the restaurant meetings in the past. Not to reach the goal of getting them into bed later, but just to enjoy some time with a girl I like. Usually this has happened after we’ve met BCD a few times already. But eventually I stopped doing this because there was always the fear I’d be seen or run into someone I knew. It’s actually happened to me in Manhattan a few times, but fortunately not when I was with another woman

I do have one Sb where we do a Regular date every six months. That includes dinner. I like walking around with a hot 23yr old on my arm. Risky I know.

 

[nycdude]

You just have to come up with a believable story and discuss it ahead of time. Any possibility she could be a co-worker, a freelancer, a relative ? If there is no PDA, all kinds of scenarios for a young woman and older guy to be together at a bar or restaurant.