I need to vent about women

[Black_equus]

But you can tell me all day long that these views aren’t true… but I’ve literally lived it. This is not some fictional story I’ve told myself; it’s my reality.

I get out and about and make the effort. The women don’t exist. It’s not even close.

Far more men are single. How can you argue with stats? Women always have far more dating prospects. It’s not even comparable.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/amp/

I guess it strange how you don’t get this especially since the best you can pull is a 30 yr old who is not committed to you and is gone in a week or so.

It's worth reminding ourselves that correlation ≠ causation
Statistically, there are an equal number men and women in the United States between the ages of 18 and 40 +/- 1%. So one can logically conclude that there are an equal number of available partners for both men and women.

Most young men are single because they don’t know how to talk to women, or afraid of rejection. When I was young and dumb and full of cum, if I would’ve been afraid of rejection, I never would’ve gotten laid, but as a young man, I got my fair share, starting at 14 years old with a MILF. It seems today, far more women that ever are DTF, but men still have to make the first move, that’s never going to change. Sure you may have some women that will make the first move, but that’s not common. Also far to many men, especially young men put the pussy on a pedestal, that’s something I never did. The advice I would give to any young man is don’t come across as desperate, that’s a huge turnoff. Act interested, but not desperate. And if you think a woman is out of your league because she’s a 10 and you’re not, well go for it anyway, if she’s shallow you don’t stand a chance, but you will not know if you don’t try. Me, I could approach any woman and know if I will be fucking her later that night, in a week or so, or never, and I’ll know this in 5 minutes or less. I think the problem with some young men these days are the easy access to porn, they want instant gratification and not put the work in to get laid.

They also reject any prospect that isn't as slutty as Anal Jesse or as hot as Eva Elfie. There is some plain Jane woman with a masters in finance earning 250k a year wondering why she doesn't get chatted up at the bar and it's because all the available men are gooning out to unlimited porn channels.

 

[headsup]

Point of clarification, the bees that finds the flower is always female

Male bees have zero value in the hive. They basically eat and shit 24/7. One time every season there is an intense competition between the male bees to mate with the queen. The strongest male passes his DNA to the next generation. The rest of the males go back to eating and shitting. In the fall all the drones are kicked out of the hive and die from exposure.

Dont be a drone.

Haha. Don't let the facts mess up a good story.
Now, let's all go out and find that flower.

 

[VJLUTZ]

Haha. Don't let the facts mess up a good story.

Facts about bees? Interesting, sure. Applicable, not so much.

An existence based on eating, shitting and fucking sounds pretty good to me though.

 

[solomon_456]

but as a young man, I got my fair share, starting at 14 years old with a MILF.

mind to share that story? I’d love to hear it

 

[AmpHunter2021]

mind to share that story? I’d love to hear it

I was with an older friend of mine, and he introduced me to his aunt that was visiting from the west coast. We were hanging out at his house, his girlfriend called, she wanted to get fucked, so I was going to leave, the aunt told me to hang out, she’ll give me a ride home. We smoked some weed, and she told me she’s always wanted to bang her nephew’s friends. So I said what the fuck. I was of course inexperienced but she took charge. Of course I blew the moment she put my cock in her mouth, but she was cool with that, about 10 minutes later I was good to go again. We didn’t have a condom, but she said she has her tubes tied, and I was young dumb and full of cum, so I went through with it. The second time I didn’t last long either, she seemed annoyed, but didn’t say anything. Of course she said don’t tell anyone, and I never did.

 

[solomon_456]

I was with an older friend of mine, and he introduced me to his aunt that was visiting from the west coast. We were hanging out at his house, his girlfriend called, she wanted to get fucked, so I was going to leave, the aunt told me to hang out, she’ll give me a ride home. We smoked some weed, and she told me she’s always wanted to bang her nephew’s friends. So I said what the fuck. I was of course inexperienced but she took charge. Of course I blew the moment she put my cock in her mouth, but she was cool with that, about 10 minutes later I was good to go again. We didn’t have a condom, but she said she has her tubes tied, and I was young dumb and full of cum, so I went through with it. The second time I didn’t last long either, she seemed annoyed, but didn’t say anything. Of course she said don’t tell anyone, and I never did.

What age was she at the time?

 

[이 회장님]

My buddy who's single -- I've been helping him with the truth about women -- texted me he went on a date tonight. During the date he realized 1) this girl is 30 years old, 2) she's talking a lot about travel and luxury apts, and 3) she has no tits.

I texted him, "a wall hitting the wall."

She needs to 정신차려. ㅋㅋㅋ

정신차려 = Wake up

 

[Redrain]

She needs to 정신차려. ㅋㅋㅋ

정신차려 = Wake up

But you don't know what he looks like, how old he is, or what he was talking about about on the date.

Maybe he was the one who needs to wake up?

From what I've seen, women are way better at dealing with rejection than men are.

I've heard guys spend days trashing a woman who rejects them and all women in general just because they had a first date where it was clear the person across the table wasn't attracted to them.

But the women I've known as friends don't get that angry over rejection unless it comes after significant time in a relationship, or at very least after things have gotten physical.

Men are way more likely to get incredibly hurt by and angry at a woman who they've never even kissed then a woman is at a man they've never kissed!

I think it's because too many men feel that when a woman doesn't want to be with them, it's because that woman thinks they can do better than them.

So every time a woman doesn't want to be with them it feels like a value judgement and a put down.

And every time a woman doesn't want to be with them it eventually feels like all women think they can do better than them and are putting them down.

Thing is though, every time a woman doesn't want to be with you it isn't because she thinks she can do better than you or that you're not good enough.

She has just as many reasons as you do for making choices and not every one of them is based on "can I do better than this".

Women make choices out of comfort, laziness, hope, despair, anger and acceptance just as much as we do.

Man or woman, not every no is a "you're not good enough" any more than every yes is a "you are good enough".

I think there are a lot of very lonely men in the world who want to love and be loved by a woman, and are so frustrated and sad that they've started blaming women for their loneliness.

But honestly, this all starts because they blame themselves for being "judged" poorly by women. For not being the kind of man that they feel that women would see as "high value".

If they could just let go of the idea that there is some strict scale that every woman is not only judging them by but has also found them inadequate on, they could see that the loneliness and hurt often comes from something else.

I've been rejected plenty of times and a whole lot of the women who I wanted to be with didn't want to be with me. But I did my best not to see them not wanting to be with me as a judgment of any sort.

No doubt you'll say I'm fooling myself, but it has made it so that I can approach women individually and without bitterness or the expectation of rejection.

When I was single the fact that every woman is different gave me hope with every woman I approached and that hope made me more attractive.

I honestly don't think about or even remember all the times I've been rejected, but I definitely remember all the times things worked out.

For the guys on his thread who are angry at women and more lonely than you like to admit. I wish you a lot of hope.

And if you can't feel hope, I hope that you get the help and support you need to be able to feel it, because it is there all around you.

Be well gentleman.

 

[AmpHunter2021]

What age was she at the time?

She was in her early 40’s. She was a little thick, but had some nice real D cups. It was a nice first time experience overall.

 

[AmpHunter2021]

But you don't know what he looks like, how old he is, or what he was talking about about on the date.

Maybe he was the one who needs to wake up?

From what I've seen, women are way better at dealing with rejection than men are.

I've heard guys spend days trashing a woman who rejects them and all women in general just because they had a first date where it was clear the person across the table wasn't attracted to them.

But the women I've known as friends don't get that angry over rejection unless it comes after significant time in a relationship, or at very least after things have gotten physical.

Men are way more likely to get incredibly hurt by and angry at a woman who they've never even kissed then a woman is at a man they've never kissed!

I think it's because too many men feel that when a woman doesn't want to be with them, it's because that woman thinks they can do better than them.

So every time a woman doesn't want to be with them it feels like a value judgement and a put down.

And every time a woman doesn't want to be with them it eventually feels like all women think they can do better than them and are putting them down.

Thing is though, every time a woman doesn't want to be with you it isn't because she thinks she can do better than you or that you're not good enough.

She has just as many reasons as you do for making choices and not every one of them is based on "can I do better than this".

Women make choices out of comfort, laziness, hope, despair, anger and acceptance just as much as we do.

Man or woman, not every no is a "you're not good enough" any more than every yes is a "you are good enough".

I think there are a lot of very lonely men in the world who want to love and be loved by a woman, and are so frustrated and sad that they've started blaming women for their loneliness.

But honestly, this all starts because they blame themselves for being "judged" poorly by women. For not being the kind of man that they feel that women would see as "high value".

If they could just let go of the idea that there is some strict scale that every woman is not only judging them by but has also found them inadequate on, they could see that the loneliness and hurt often comes from something else.

I've been rejected plenty of times and a whole lot of the women who I wanted to be with didn't want to be with me. But I did my best not to see them not wanting to be with me as a judgment of any sort.

No doubt you'll say I'm fooling myself, but it has made it so that I can approach women individually and without bitterness or the expectation of rejection.

When I was single the fact that every woman is different gave me hope with every woman I approached and that hope made me more attractive.

I honestly don't think about or even remember all the times I've been rejected, but I definitely remember all the times things worked out.

For the guys on his thread who are angry at women and more lonely than you like to admit. I wish you a lot of hope.

And if you can't feel hope, I hope that you get the help and support you need to be able to feel it, because it is there all around you.

Be well gentleman.

Yes, most men are like this, but I’ve been rejected, ghosted my many girls, I didn’t give a fuck. I’ve done the same as well when I was younger. I can’t remember how many girls I met, and a few hours later I’m fucking them or they are at least blowing me in the car. After they give me their number, I’m thinking I got what I wanted, occasionally I’d go back for seconds. On chick, I had a routine with, she was my Sunday night fuck for about 6 months. I’d call her, she’d say come over, we’d fuck, some small talk and I’d make the excuse to leave. After 6 months she got tired of this, told me to stop calling her, I was only using her for sex. She was right, and I stopped calling her. Funny thing is she never asked me for my number. The conversations we had never went deep. I thought she was cool being fuck buddies.

 

[PorterD]

But you don't know what he looks like, how old he is, or what he was talking about about on the date.

Maybe he was the one who needs to wake up?

From what I've seen, women are way better at dealing with rejection than men are.

I've heard guys spend days trashing a woman who rejects them and all women in general just because they had a first date where it was clear the person across the table wasn't attracted to them.

But the women I've known as friends don't get that angry over rejection unless it comes after significant time in a relationship, or at very least after things have gotten physical.

Men are way more likely to get incredibly hurt by and angry at a woman who they've never even kissed then a woman is at a man they've never kissed!

I think it's because too many men feel that when a woman doesn't want to be with them, it's because that woman thinks they can do better than them.

So every time a woman doesn't want to be with them it feels like a value judgement and a put down.

And every time a woman doesn't want to be with them it eventually feels like all women think they can do better than them and are putting them down.

Thing is though, every time a woman doesn't want to be with you it isn't because she thinks she can do better than you or that you're not good enough.

She has just as many reasons as you do for making choices and not every one of them is based on "can I do better than this".

Women make choices out of comfort, laziness, hope, despair, anger and acceptance just as much as we do.

Man or woman, not every no is a "you're not good enough" any more than every yes is a "you are good enough".

I think there are a lot of very lonely men in the world who want to love and be loved by a woman, and are so frustrated and sad that they've started blaming women for their loneliness.

But honestly, this all starts because they blame themselves for being "judged" poorly by women. For not being the kind of man that they feel that women would see as "high value".

If they could just let go of the idea that there is some strict scale that every woman is not only judging them by but has also found them inadequate on, they could see that the loneliness and hurt often comes from something else.

I've been rejected plenty of times and a whole lot of the women who I wanted to be with didn't want to be with me. But I did my best not to see them not wanting to be with me as a judgment of any sort.

No doubt you'll say I'm fooling myself, but it has made it so that I can approach women individually and without bitterness or the expectation of rejection.

When I was single the fact that every woman is different gave me hope with every woman I approached and that hope made me more attractive.

I honestly don't think about or even remember all the times I've been rejected, but I definitely remember all the times things worked out.

For the guys on his thread who are angry at women and more lonely than you like to admit. I wish you a lot of hope.

And if you can't feel hope, I hope that you get the help and support you need to be able to feel it, because it is there all around you.

Be well gentleman.

But if, statistically speaking; women are only choosing the top 10% of men. That is actually a woman/society issue.

Because you can’t say a guy who is an 89% guy needs to “do better”. He did his part.

American society has totally fucked women up with unreasonable expectations and standards. An overweight unattractive woman who is maybe a 3 thinks she deserves a Henry Cavill.

Again that’s not a male issue. That’s a societal issue.

 

[solomon_456]

She was in her early 40’s. She was a little thick, but had some nice real D cups. It was a nice first time experience overall.

That was my fantasy at age 14 lol

 

[VJLUTZ]

After 6 months she got tired of this, told me to stop calling her, I was only using her for sex.

LOL. I lost count of the number of times I've hear this. And in most cases, its true. But so what? In fact, "so what?" is pretty much my reaction. Most women are using men too (a little for sex, but mostly for benefits).

I always make it clear from the start I am not interested in marriage. Even so, many women think you are lying or they can get you to change your mind. When they finally figure out you are really not interested in marriage (usually between 6-12 months) and/or they are not getting sufficient benefit out of the arrangement, that's when they use this line. It is more of an economic decision on their part than most will ever admit.

 

[이 회장님]

But if, statistically speaking; women are only choosing the top 10% of men. That is actually a woman/society issue.

Because you can’t say a guy who is an 89% guy needs to “do better”. He did his part.

American society has totally fucked women up with unreasonable expectations and standards. An overweight unattractive woman who is maybe a 3 thinks she deserves a Henry Cavill.

Again that’s not a male issue. That’s a societal issue.

I agree with you. Too many men and especially women have unrealistic expectations. This also applies to Seoul and Tokyo too and not just in NYC.

A guy in his late 20s, has a nice six-figure job, has a sense of humor, paid off his student loans and is saving up to buy a home, is in shape, etc and this may still not be enough to attract a nice and attractive lady.

I’ve met members in this site who are in their 20s, make high six to seven figures and they refuse to meet civvies. I respect their decision but I also have asked them to mix it up with civvies. It’s the crazy dating world that we live in today.

 

[Redrain]

But if, statistically speaking; women are only choosing the top 10% of men. That is actually a woman/society issue.

Because you can’t say a guy who is an 89% guy needs to “do better”. He did his part.

American society has totally fucked women up with unreasonable expectations and standards. An overweight unattractive woman who is maybe a 3 thinks she deserves a Henry Cavill.

Again that’s not a male issue. That’s a societal issue.

So what exactly puts a guy in the top 10%?

It can't be money, because neither my friends or I are rich and we dated and had relationships with plenty of beautiful women who wanted to be with us.

It can't be looks, because even though I think I am pretty attractive and my friends are also good looking guys, we are definitely not movie star or model level handsome. And again, when all had meaningful relationships with some wonderful women.

And I can't be personally because honestly, what does a "top 10%" personality even look like?

Sure I can crack a joke, be charming at times and make a woman smile with my words, but I don't think that puts me in any top 10% category!

I don't fit into the top 10% of anything! And as much as I love the guys, neither do my buddies! But regardless of whether we are single or got married, we all had and continue to have meaningful relationships with beautiful women we love and love us in return.

Honestly, I think you agree with these 10% and other ridiculous numbers mostly because they are small enough for you to accept that you don't fall within them. That you're being unfairly locked out of a group that is too small and to discriminating to begin with.

I'm not rich, I don't have a six pack, I don't make women faint the minute I walk in the door and I definitely don't fall in the top 10% of anything.

And the guys I grew up with are pretty much in the same boat as me.

But we all (and there were 7 of us) met and shared time with some lovely ladies who were glad to be with us. Some of us got married to these women and some of us didn't, but that was by choice.

So either I just happen to be one of the seven guys who not only magically beat the odds, but who each came from different places and just happened to met in the same city at the same time in their lives or your numbers aren't even close to being true.

There are too many men in relationships with women who love them for this whole top 10% thing to be even remotely true.

From what I've seen from my spot firmly in the lower 90%, there are a lot more men in good relationships with women than there are lonely men.

Sure, these relationships have their ups and downs, but in my life I've met way more men who are in content relationships with women then men who are lonely.

And those guys I've known who were lonely, were usually lonely for reasons largely unrelated to women.

Like I said, on your scale I and the guys I've known mostly fall in the lower 90%. Hell, just by the numbers most men fall in the lower 90%! But we are doing pretty well when it comes to our relationships with women and so are most of the other men in this group (which again must include men!)

From what I've seen, most of the mentally healthy men who you would describe as lower 90% (which again, what exactly is that based on? Money, looks, charm?) are happy in their relationships with women. And the women they are in relationships aren't all bridge trolls or feel like they are settling.

So I think these numbers you believe are built more on hurt than actual fact.

 

[PorterD]

So what exactly puts a guy in the top 10%?

It can't be money, because neither my friends or I are rich and we dated and had relationships with plenty of beautiful women who wanted to be with us.

It can't be looks, because even though I think I am pretty attractive and my friends are also good looking guys, we are definitely not movie star or model level handsome. And again, when all had meaningful relationships with some wonderful women.

And I can't be personally because honestly, what does a "top 10%" personality even look like?

Sure I can crack a joke, be charming at times and make a woman smile with my words, but I don't think that puts me in any top 10% category!

I don't fit into the top 10% of anything! And as much as I love the guys, neither do my buddies! But regardless of whether we are single or got married, we all had and continue to have meaningful relationships with beautiful women we love and love us in return.

Honestly, I think you agree with these 10% and other ridiculous numbers mostly because they are small enough for you to accept that you don't fall within them. That you're being unfairly locked out of a group that is too small and to discriminating to begin with.

I'm not rich, I don't have a six pack, I don't make women faint the minute I walk in the door and I definitely don't fall in the top 10% of anything.

And the guys I grew up with are pretty much in the same boat as me.

But we all (and there were 7 of us) met and shared time with some lovely ladies who were glad to be with us. Some of us got married to these women and some of us didn't, but that was by choice.

So either I just happen to be one of the seven guys who not only magically beat the odds, but who each came from different places and just happened to met in the same city at the same time in their lives or your numbers aren't even close to being true.

There are too many men in relationships with women who love them for this whole top 10% thing to be even remotely true.

From what I've seen from my spot firmly in the lower 90%, there are a lot more men in good relationships with women than there are lonely men.

Sure, these relationships have their ups and downs, but in my life I've met way more men who are in content relationships with women then men who are lonely.

And those guys I've known who were lonely, were usually lonely for reasons largely unrelated to women.

Like I said, on your scale I and the guys I've known mostly fall in the lower 90%. Hell, just by the numbers most men fall in the lower 90%! But we are doing pretty well when it comes to our relationships with women and so are most of the other men in this group (which again must include men!)

From what I've seen, most of the mentally healthy men who you would describe as lower 90% (which again, what exactly is that based on? Money, looks, charm?) are happy in their relationships with women. And the women they are in relationships aren't all bridge trolls or feel like they are settling.

So I think these numbers you believe are built more on hurt than actual fact.

First off; are your experiences with getting women from more than 10+ years ago? If so; it’s 100% obsolete.

Dating market has totally changed in the last 10 years or even 5 years. Online dating? Tinder? Onlyfans? Social media? Feminist movement shitting on men. It’s wrecked it.

It sounds to me like your experiences are from a very different time. Sure- average guys could get great women 20 years ago. Not now!

Am I wrong?

Go try it. Make an online dating profile and swipe on 100 women. You could be decent looking and you’d be lucky to get 1-2 likes back. Zero conversations and no dates. Go try it. Heck you could like 1000 profiles and probably get no dates and this is assuming you are a decent looking guy (a 6 or a 7)

 

[markkennedy]

For sure confidence puts any man into the top 10%. Does money, awesome looks, huge muscles, or big cock give confidence? Of course. Can one have none of these and still have confidence? Yes of course. I'm closing in on 50, I have money but no one would ever know it, I do have muscles, but I'm at best a 6 or 7 in my looks altogether, all this and again I'm closing in on 50. I do pretty well, because I am confident in a way no one I know is. Other said, they can know within a few minutes of meeting a girl if they will be fucking, and I have this sense too, so I use this as my tool. I don't ever shy away from approaching a girl I am interested in, and getting a hard NO doesn't mean anything to me. There are a few billion ladies in the world. A lot of times, if a lady is pursuing ME, I just am mildly interested in her and I make sure she understands this. She can either move along, or try harder, and for me I find that making them try harder is the trick; the ones who take it to the next level because challange accepted, they end up letting you buttfuck them on their kid's bed while their husband is away with his pals at some video game conference or at his fantasy golf draft.

Of course I'm way out of the age group of the 20-30 crowd now. But my kids are in the 20s crowd, and I see how they and their pals from school are going along in their quests for mates. Spoiler alert, not so well. The girls always seem the most interested by guys who "make me laugh". Now, that could be a dude just out of jail for the fiftieth time that year and with no job and dirty clothes and shitty haircut scraggly beard and smells like shitty white owls. But "make me laugh" is it. The girls find out in a week after he hits her or "forgets" whatever commitment he made or gets arrested. For most of them, unfortunately, they don't learn the lesson, and have another dude who "makes me laugh", and the cycle goes on and on until they have a differently colored baby of a dude upstate for the next ten years, and the dudes milk them of their youth and their strength and their parents' love and their parents' money and the money I send every quarter in my government forced charity program payments. I see it so often, and my town might be ground zero for this. The girls might be happy for those first two weeks, but wow what a shitty life after. I think a person should rather be lonely their whole lives than stuck with a piece of shit jailbird welfare bull and his baby and all his other children and their various mothers and his PO. But I'm completely wrong, as again the population today says I am.

Really, I don't know a way to fix this. You guys that are out there not just trying to get laid but find a wife, I can't even think of how you can win that game, except by becoming that guy. Personally, with the thing coming up this year, I don't know that I'd want to be the one giving up my place in the line, but hey, lots of people sell out for some pussy.

 

[Whizzard]

So what exactly puts a guy in the top 10%?

It can't be money, because neither my friends or I are rich and we dated and had relationships with plenty of beautiful women who wanted to be with us.

It can't be looks, because even though I think I am pretty attractive and my friends are also good looking guys, we are definitely not movie star or model level handsome. And again, when all had meaningful relationships with some wonderful women.

And I can't be personally because honestly, what does a "top 10%" personality even look like?

Sure I can crack a joke, be charming at times and make a woman smile with my words, but I don't think that puts me in any top 10% category!

I don't fit into the top 10% of anything! And as much as I love the guys, neither do my buddies! But regardless of whether we are single or got married, we all had and continue to have meaningful relationships with beautiful women we love and love us in return.

Honestly, I think you agree with these 10% and other ridiculous numbers mostly because they are small enough for you to accept that you don't fall within them. That you're being unfairly locked out of a group that is too small and to discriminating to begin with.

I'm not rich, I don't have a six pack, I don't make women faint the minute I walk in the door and I definitely don't fall in the top 10% of anything.

And the guys I grew up with are pretty much in the same boat as me.

But we all (and there were 7 of us) met and shared time with some lovely ladies who were glad to be with us. Some of us got married to these women and some of us didn't, but that was by choice.

So either I just happen to be one of the seven guys who not only magically beat the odds, but who each came from different places and just happened to met in the same city at the same time in their lives or your numbers aren't even close to being true.

There are too many men in relationships with women who love them for this whole top 10% thing to be even remotely true.

From what I've seen from my spot firmly in the lower 90%, there are a lot more men in good relationships with women than there are lonely men.

Sure, these relationships have their ups and downs, but in my life I've met way more men who are in content relationships with women then men who are lonely.

And those guys I've known who were lonely, were usually lonely for reasons largely unrelated to women.

Like I said, on your scale I and the guys I've known mostly fall in the lower 90%. Hell, just by the numbers most men fall in the lower 90%! But we are doing pretty well when it comes to our relationships with women and so are most of the other men in this group (which again must include men!)

From what I've seen, most of the mentally healthy men who you would describe as lower 90% (which again, what exactly is that based on? Money, looks, charm?) are happy in their relationships with women. And the women they are in relationships aren't all bridge trolls or feel like they are settling.

So I think these numbers you believe are built more on hurt than actual fact.

Says the guy with multiple accounts. It’s a very nice day. Shouldn’t you be spreading mulch while your overlord orders Starbucks and awaits packages from Amazon?

 

[PorterD]

I just find it hilarious that guys HERE of all places- would proclaim that the dating market is great. Two things don’t go together. A solid rotation of options of free women and this place. Lol

 

[Redrain]

I just find it hilarious that guys HERE of all places- would proclaim that the dating market is great. Two things don’t go together. A solid rotation of options of free women and this place. Lol

That's only if you actually think that hobbying is in any way a substitute for dating or having a romantic relationship!

Or if you think the only reason guys hobby is because they need to make up for the lack of dating or romantic relationships in their lives!

Prostitution has been going on for centuries and I really doubt that the only men who hobby are ones who can't get women to share time with them any other way!

At least I really hope not! Otherwise this wouldn't be a hobby so much as slow motion suicide!

Paying for sex as a substitute for a romantic relationship (when you want a romantic relationship) is voluntarily choosing to only live hand-to-mouth for the rest of your life!

That's like saying the only reason men eat at restaurants is because they have no other ways of getting food!

That's why we call it hobbying! Because its supposed to be a fun casual thing you do when you feel like it, not something you do because you have no other choice!

That's the difference between drinking and having a drinking problem!

We all enjoy what's in bottle. The problem comes when you can't put it down or even worse come to believe that it's the only way of keep from dying of thirst!

As for the ten years ago thing. I have a younger nephew who isn't rich or a male model but doesn't see the world the way you do.

He has dated some beautiful young women and is currently in a long term relationship with one who adores him.

I've spoken to him about the same things we are talking about and his opinion is that guys who see things the way you do are completely wrong and hurting themselves.

He tells me that these guys usually come off as a bit scary to both men and women.

He tells me that most of not all of his friends who don't believe these things are either in relationships or dating around and loving it.

Honestly, at some point you have to ask yourself.

If you understand "the truth" about women and these other guys don't, then why does it seem that so many of the men who disagree with you are having the kind of relationships with women that you want while you are not?