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How long will this effort to shut down last

krideynyc

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No one argues against safe and preventive measures, but fact is it is overly hyped and overblown, follow the money too.
Glad to hear we agree on a safer approach to resolving this. Whether it's over hyped or not, it's still guidelines for now, so voluntary measures. We're not in Martial Law status, yet.
 

joemomma79

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Some of the shit on these boards blows my fucking mind. Forget numbers.... you can skewer them however you want either direction.

The reality is this. There is a virus called covid19. It is causing people to become ill. It is causing significant problems in a fair portion of infected people. Those people may end up in the ICU. At some point as this virus continues to spread, patients could outpace resources, and lives will be lost, unnecessarily.

This is beyond numbers and deals with reality. The media coverage is certainly overblown, but there are truths at play here that some feel the need to ignore, possibly because it makes them uncomfortable, or because they're just flat out fucking stupid.

It won't be so easy when this shit hits home and the doctors are forced to make decisions to save grandmom who is 90, mom who is 65, or the 4 year old kid. Guess what... talk to any doctor and on a good day they may have to make those decisions, and guess who they're going to save in almost all instances?

All because the shallow end of the gene pool can't give up their "rights" to go to the bar, congregate on beaches, etc... all because it doesn't effect them. Wake the fuck up, with rights come responsibilities.
 

BVBV

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The numbers show the only ones dying are already sick. They also show most people that get it are only mildly sick which thankfully included kids. If you are in the high risk
stay home or if we worry about everyone keep all people home for 14 days. More chance you die in a car crash.
 

BVBV

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The overall numbers will rise but the death rate will go lower once we start testing. Death rate varies by country and whom gets it. Prior health has the most to do with
the death rate.
 

Bit

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All because the shallow end of the gene pool can't give up their "rights" to go to the bar, congregate on beaches, etc... all because it doesn't effect them. Wake the fuck up, with rights come responsibilities.
I work in an industry where the majority of people will always be between 25-35, college educated, highly social with advanced salaries. I think they may look outwardly and wonder who is on the shallow end of the gene pool.

They are in the hunt for connection and intimacy like many on this board. They have never been "offline" or alone since their first phone. They are being told not to socialize or congregate for the first time in their life even though this is Spring Break week. All this to preserve a group of mostly older people that disparage their generation at every turn in the media?

The fact is they will survive this and other groups may not. Disparaging them will not change their behavior.
 

feetguy1

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The numbers show the only ones dying are already sick. They also show most people that get it are only mildly sick which thankfully included kids. If you are in the high risk
stay home or if we worry about everyone keep all people home for 14 days. More chance you die in a car crash.
See comment # 7.
 

Bit

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Here's some summarized data that is about 1 month old from China. It is the largest pool of data because they had the most cases:

DEATH RATE by AGE
  • 80+ years old - 14.8%
  • 70-79 years old - 8.0%
  • 60-69 years old - 3.6%
  • 50-59 years old - 1.3%
  • 40-49 years old - 0.4%
  • 30-39 years old - 0.2%
  • 20-29 years old - 0.2%
  • 10-19 years old - 0.2%
  • 0-9 years old - no fatalities
 

feetguy1

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BVBV

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Just posting what Italy reported today. almost 100 % of deaths are people with other health issues. If they are 20 with a problem they may die its as we age more
problems develop. Just putting up stats.
 

Srhsrh

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Here's some summarized data that is about 1 month old from China. It is the largest pool of data because they had the most cases:

DEATH RATE by AGE
  • 80+ years old - 14.8%
  • 70-79 years old - 8.0%
  • 60-69 years old - 3.6%
  • 50-59 years old - 1.3%
  • 40-49 years old - 0.4%
  • 30-39 years old - 0.2%
  • 20-29 years old - 0.2%
  • 10-19 years old - 0.2%
  • 0-9 years old - no fatalities
the no deaths for babies fascinates me still. I'm so used to seeing all these things with flu and what not, where the usual suspects are the very young and the very old.

I'm closest thing i ever took to biology was Sex ED, due to changing schools. So I'm no expert. But i'm still wondering if there is something there to be learned, like some protection kids have that we dont and that maybe there is help there somewhere.
 

headsup

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The medical folks will tell us when it is safe to resume. To give you an idea of what is scaring me and others are facts like this:

"Four out of five people who got Coronavirus, got it from someone who did not know they had it." - Dr. Sanjay Kupta

We have to assume everybody has it for a while.
 

BVBV

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Not the article I saw but similar. My point above was China is an enemy not a friend and for that matter my TV, shirt, etc are not made in china and I have a flip phone. If
we want to buy products from China thats fine but lets not have them make medicines, medical equipment, etc. The trade is still to one sided even with there increased
purchases.
 

Dave52

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I work in a supermarket. 50 % of the customers are seniors. They come in buying 30 dollars worth of groceries. Sometimes 3 days or more a week so obviously they have supplies at home. They dont seem to be worried about the being around the general public but the healthy should quarantine themselves in their homes.
 

charliebrown

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I work in a supermarket. 50 % of the customers are seniors. They come in buying 30 dollars worth of groceries. Sometimes 3 days or more a week so obviously they have supplies at home. They dont seem to be worried about the being around the general public but the healthy should quarantine themselves in their homes.
When they start seeing the ambulances picking up their neighbors, then they might start getting the fact that this virus is dangerous.
I am afraid this society is too fucking stupid and this will get much worse than it needs to because of the stupidity.
 

krideynyc

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The overall numbers will rise but the death rate will go lower once we start testing. Death rate varies by country and whom gets it. Prior health has the most to do with the death rate.
Available treatment is just as significant. Applies to Italy, and much more to Iran. Less so to South Korea, since they had way fewer severe cases because they tested early, and treated early.
 

charliebrown

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If 3.4% is correct that’s a high number. Just applying it to my mothers situation a few years back. She desperately needed a heart surgery, but the % of possible death was above 3%. The surgeons, more than one said it was too high to perform the surgery. Just a scenario where a small % is considered extremely high. This is something that is going to have to “play out”. We ARE NOT qualified experts, but much of the information is informative and interesting. Stay safe guys. If you’re running low on review time, submit old reviews to keep yourself in the game so to speak. This situation will one day pass. Until then grin and bear it. Once again, STAY SAFE.
Voodoo66, do we really want to read a bunch of old reviews regurgitated? Couldn't you just act like the federal government and distribute free points for everyone to get thru these very difficult times.
 
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