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Bob Kraft

feetguy1

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"The chats began on hookup site SkipTheGames.com, where Keshmirian responded to an ad that appeared to be for an adult escort. But detectives with the Sarasota Co. Sheriff’s Office (SCSO) changed the woman’s age to that of a 14-year-old after the conversation about sex began. "

Hey njlefty, you're correct. The grandfather to be thought he will be meeting up with an adult before the Sheriff's Office age the adult age to 14. The grandfather to be may not have noticed that.
After reading the article again, I assumed that the Sheriff's Office "verbally" changed the woman's age to 14. At that point, grandfather to be should decline the "woman's" invitation.
 

njlefty

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"The chats began on hookup site SkipTheGames.com, where Keshmirian responded to an ad that appeared to be for an adult escort. But detectives with the Sarasota Co. Sheriff’s Office (SCSO) changed the woman’s age to that of a 14-year-old after the conversation about sex began. "

Hey njlefty, you're correct. The grandfather to be thought he will be meeting up with an adult before the Sheriff's Office age the adult age to 14. The grandfather to be may not have noticed that.
I believe that is what happened and he did not understand or realize the police were entrapping him for a sex crime charge.
 

Slimm

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so what about when her daddy go on the call and told him it was ok to tap his daughter?
In this ugly world there's the prototypical coach/teacher/priest who abuses a pre-pubescent kid, then physically threatens him or convinces him no one will love him or believe him if he tells. You know, the kind of guy who causes a boy or girl a lifetime of doubt, shame and confusion.

Then there's the guy who wanted sex with an adult but was coaxed into the idea of sex with an eager and vivacious teenage non-virgin, who was already part of a sad lifestyle due to her own father.

If you think scenario two is even one-tenth as bad as scenario one, you're not rational.
 

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In this ugly world there's the prototypical coach/teacher/priest who abuses a pre-pubescent kid, then physically threatens him or convinces him no one will love him or believe him if he tells. You know, the kind of guy who causes a boy or girl a lifetime of doubt, shame and confusion.

Then there's the guy who wanted sex with an adult but was coaxed into the idea of sex with an eager and vivacious teenage non-virgin, who was already part of a sad lifestyle due to her own father.

If you think scenario two is even one-tenth as bad as scenario one, you're not rational.
I think I am pretty rational, and I dont see too much difference between a 10 year old and a 14 year old. Why dont you ask some of your friends and family what they think of your opinion? Sometimes I think too many guys say stuff on here, that has absolutely no alignment with their real life and the world.

It's both pedophilia, both illegal, and I'd prefer that they shot both perps. Actually I'd wonder about the sanity of someone who explains away this case, with expressions that implied the guy is just a victim.
 

Slimm

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I think I am pretty rational, and I dont see too much difference between a 10 year old and a 14 year old. Why dont you ask some of your friends and family what they think of your opinion? Sometimes I think too many guys say stuff on here, that has absolutely no alignment with their real life and the world.

It's both pedophilia, both illegal, and I'd prefer that they shot both perps. Actually I'd wonder about the sanity of someone who explains away this case, with expressions that implied the guy is just a victim.
You don't even know what pedophilia is. Pedophilia a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Time to step down from the high-horse and toss the pitchfork in the shed.

Fuck a 16 year old in NJ, you're golden. Do it in California, you go to jail. Sure 16's older than the 14 year old in the article, but it just shows a lot of this is semantics, and you're very close-minded.
 

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The original message he sent to the poster on Skip-The-Game was for an adult not for a 14 year old. So I have to wonder why the cops would change the ad after first contact and make her a minor. Hooking up on-line with a grown freaky woman is a good thing. Hooking up with a grown woman on-line for financial compensation in most states is a misdemeanor. Attempting to hook up with a minor, boy or girl, is indefensible, and a serious crime. It is a very sexy crime to prosecute. Why did the cops change the profile after initial contact? Also, much of what you read in a newspaper is BS. So again ask, why did the cops change the age after first contact?
 

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Yes, I’m close minded when it comes to pedophiles. Or people who support pedophilia.
Closeminded was a poor choice of words on my part. Stupid is a lot more appropriate. Saying you'd prefer that they shoot the guy for wanting to have sex with a 14 year old is stupid.

And once again, since you completely ignored it, pedophilia is an attraction for prepubescents. Fourteen is not prepubescent.
 

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I just meant someone actually having sex with a 14 year old should be shot. As for the rest, I stand by what I said. And I really don’t care that the best you can do is to throw out insults. I already decided way before this my opinion of you.
 

Slimm

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I just meant someone actually having sex with a 14 year old should be shot. As for the rest, I stand by what I said. And I really don’t care that the best you can do is to throw out insults. I already decided way before this my opinion of you.
What insult? The word "stupid"?

It really shouldn't count as an insult when it's so clearly factual. Thinking someone deserves to be shot for having sex with a fourteen year-old is literally stupid.

In fact it's scary-stupid.
 

feetguy1

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The original message he sent to the poster on Skip-The-Game was for an adult not for a 14 year old. So I have to wonder why the cops would change the ad after first contact and make her a minor. Hooking up on-line with a grown freaky woman is a good thing. Hooking up with a grown woman on-line for financial compensation in most states is a misdemeanor. Attempting to hook up with a minor, boy or girl, is indefensible, and a serious crime. It is a very sexy crime to prosecute. Why did the cops change the profile after initial contact? Also, much of what you read in a newspaper is BS. So again ask, why did the cops change the age after first contact?
That was my thought as well. Did the cops changed the age on the ad or did the cops "verbally" changed the age, both, after initial contact? I can see if the grandfather to be was tricked into visiting a minor if the cops changed the age on ad after initial contact. If the cops "verbally" changed the age, then grandfather to be should have decline the visit.
 

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I wonder how and if this case will continue to affect these businesses, both in Florida and elsewhere. Will New York State policies towards prosecuting the provider and the customer change?
 

njlefty

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I wonder how and if this case will continue to affect these businesses, both in Florida and elsewhere. Will New York State policies towards prosecuting the provider and the customer change?
Good question. I think this case is being watched closely by prosecutors and police. The use of a "sneak and peak" warrant to go inside an AMP is a bad thing for the country in my opinion. If this case has an outcome that appears favorable to prosecutors, we might see such warrants used on AMPs elsewhere.
 

krideynyc

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I wonder how and if this case will continue to affect these businesses, both in Florida and elsewhere. Will New York State policies towards prosecuting the provider and the customer change?
NY State is one of the few discussing Legalizing Sex-4-Pay at the State Government level. If anything, enforcement should target true trafficking, and less on providers and mongers.
 

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What insult? The word "stupid"?

It really shouldn't count as an insult when it's so clearly factual. Thinking someone deserves to be shot for having sex with a fourteen year-old is literally stupid.

In fact it's scary-stupid.
Why is it "scary-stupid"?

I am not a big death penalty person at all, but that seems a more justifiable reason than killing a kid for little more than taking a shortcut across my lawn as seems to be the case in some "stand your ground" states.
 

TGBeldin

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By the way, I have seen adult personals stating a woman is in her late 20s, looking for a fun night out. No financial mention, more of a one night fling wording. I wrote to "her" inquiring, realizing it was at least 50/50 she would want compensation. I had no problem with that.

When "she" wrote back it was then supposedly a guy offering to sell the use of his 13 y/o daughter. I immediately sent the e-mail and link to the police in that town, expressing my disgust. Never heard any reply and never saw any news follow-up, so my guess (nothing more than a guess) is it was a sting that indeed started off as an adult woman, and only after the hook was partially set, did the age change. I can very easily believe that happened in the other case as well.

PS: This was not the first such thing I have come across, though in the other one a few years back when I wrote to the police--different city--I did get a reply saying essentially "Thanks for being a concerned citizen. We are aware of this guy." To their credit they seemed to have no interest in why I was writing to an "adult woman" for a one night stand. If more police departments had that attitude I suspect they would get a lot more cooperation going after the pedophiles and other sick folks using and preying on underaged kids.
 

njlefty

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By the way, I have seen adult personals stating a woman is in her late 20s, looking for a fun night out. No financial mention, more of a one night fling wording. I wrote to "her" inquiring, realizing it was at least 50/50 she would want compensation. I had no problem with that.

When "she" wrote back it was then supposedly a guy offering to sell the use of his 13 y/o daughter. I immediately sent the e-mail and link to the police in that town, expressing my disgust. Never heard any reply and never saw any news follow-up, so my guess (nothing more than a guess) is it was a sting that indeed started off as an adult woman, and only after the hook was partially set, did the age change. I can very easily believe that happened in the other case as well.

PS: This was not the first such thing I have come across, though in the other one a few years back when I wrote to the police--different city--I did get a reply saying essentially "Thanks for being a concerned citizen. We are aware of this guy." To their credit they seemed to have no interest in why I was writing to an "adult woman" for a one night stand. If more police departments had that attitude I suspect they would get a lot more cooperation going after the pedophiles and other sick folks using and preying on underaged kids.
It does appear that a relatively recent law enforcement tactic is to post an ad for an adult and then switch it to underage after the initial contact. I've heard of this being done more often now.
 
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