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Almost went down a stupid path... Falling for a J Girl...

Balmain

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Let's be honest. Maybe these AMP girls want the top 5%, but these AMP girls themselves are not the top 5%. Even if these Amp girls have the looks rated 6, 7 or 8's, I'm sure most normal men and especially the top 5% would totally disregard them as wife material.
That’s my point, and these gals know this and why most guys who fall for these women should be very weary about the prospect of dating one.
 

krideynyc

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That’s my point, and these gals know this and why most guys who fall for these women should be very weary about the prospect of dating one.
Yes, but dating does not always result in marriage. You can set the terms for a date. And if she won't date you if you can't provide a Green Card, it's a dead end for both of you.
 

twotimesone

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They've been normalized for a while. A lot of the providers, at least from China, are already married and are here to make money. Often with their husband/family looking after the kid. And it's quite normal for them to divorce first when a Green Card becomes a possibility.
It is not normalized. Only poor women out there in China and the only thing that they can sell is their youth and sex and they know the consequences. Most Chinese women are not like that and it is frowned upon. Though I had a Chinese neighbor who have a very attractive looking wife with 2 young kids who once or their husband would give me cash and asked me to write a check with the same amount. They eventually moved out and brought a place in Staten Island.
 

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Most of the comments here completely lack understanding and perspective. The girls can fall for a guy, but they are very scared to do so and they are afraid to invest the time because there is no way for them to trust any of you all, and making the time and effort would be disruptive to their very delicate financial situation. More so than a US citizen girl that has a regular job, regular family, has the ability to find another job, health insurance, etc...
If you want this J girl, you'll have to do quite a bit for her to prove to her that are neither a player and/or not just here today, and gone tomorrow. The effort is bigger than the typical girls because these girls will experience tremendous hardships if left in a lurch. They hear all kinds of bullshit from insensitive/abusive guys. Try being sensitive, helpful and unselfish for a lengthy time period until trust is built. Then, she will see a real person who cares about you and not so much your money.
Unfortunately, you just described being a simp. The amp love game is one viscous cycle.
 

Balmain

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Unfortunately, you just described being a simp. The amp love game is one viscous cycle.
Agreed - The one exception is if you have solid stats yourself and you meet a “good” gal who is literally doing this work as a last resort and early enough in her career as a provider to where her mind hasn’t been fully warped by the lifestyle…I peg the point of no return at between 1-2 months in the business before she’s been completely turned out and turned onto to other unappealing recreational pursuits.

As it relates to J-gals, the language/ cultural barriers will make it difficult for most of you to genuinely connect with them anyways, even if you’re fooled by their niceties.
 

Aceshighly

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I feel compelled to jump into this convo re: seeing girls outside of “work”. Back in 2021-2022, while “The Kelly” was indie at the casino’s in CT, she was living in New London CT. I was invited over to her apt numerous times to hang. We went out for drinks a few times at some of the shitty bars down the street from her place. Every time, we’d head back to her apt for fun. Never cost me more than a bar tab (maybe $30).
I’m rarely up that way anymore but I believed she moved back to NY.


Wish I had a DeLorean and some Plutonium so I could travel back to that era.
 

DeuceJiggalow

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Agreed - The one exception is if you have solid stats yourself and you meet a “good” gal who is literally doing this work as a last resort and early enough in her career as a provider to where her mind hasn’t been fully warped by the lifestyle…I peg the point of no return at between 1-2 months in the business before she’s been completely turned out and turned onto to other unappealing recreational pursuits.

As it relates to J-gals, the language/ cultural barriers will make it difficult for most of you to genuinely connect with them anyways, even if you’re fooled by their niceties.
As you once said. There are no “good” gals in this biz.
 

bhaus

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That's exactly the problem. A few years back I saw my ATF about once a month and she was fine with that.



That's total BS. These women were so used to getting attention from many men as an amp girl and they don't know how to think like a regular civvie and to be devoted to one man. There are some amp girls who managed to close the door on their amp life and managed to live in regular lives but most of them just can't cope, including this J girl. I understand that men have this 'white knight' instinct in trying to save these amp women, but ultimately these women (and not the man) have to save themselves out of this by saving enough money all these years.
Dude, you're just wrong. There are all types of personalities and preferences,.like everywhere. You just haven't gotten close enough to enough of these women to understand.
 

sxpm

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Dude, you're just wrong. There are all types of personalities and preferences,.like everywhere. You just haven't gotten close enough to enough of these women to understand.
It’s not wrong if you’ve been stabbed in the chest. Jaded perspective is tunnel vision, understandably.
 

JuicyApp

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The good gals are the ones who would stab you in your chest, rather than your back. ;)
I remember there was one girl at the NY AMP's that could classify as a "good girl." She said it was her first time trying this out, and was only doing it to get enough money to start her business. Said she cried herself to sleep the first night. After a week I didn't see her advertised anymore, and haven't since. Unfortunate, because she was a smoke show, and her service felt like an actual Girlfriend.

Seemed like she was being honest, then again, she could be in another AMP getting absolutely plowed till Judgment Day.

Would have loved to have her for a night or 2 before returning her back to the sharks.
 

Balmain

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I remember there was one girl at the NY AMP's that could classify as a "good girl." She said it was her first time trying this out, and was only doing it to get enough money to start her business. Said she cried herself to sleep the first night. After a week I didn't see her advertised anymore, and haven't since. Unfortunate, because she was a smoke show, and her service felt like an actual Girlfriend.

Seemed like she was being honest, then again, she could be in another AMP getting absolutely plowed till Judgment Day.

Would have loved to have her for a night or 2 before returning her back to the sharks.
You're describing the loss of innocence that comes with a gal's first full day/week of work - the horror stories are real.
 

Abglover

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If she really likes you back then she would make the effort to see you outside despite the needs of work. Really thats all it boils down to, anything else she’s playing the game with you. It doesn’t lead to the golden path until sessions are free (house fees covered), dates outside, sacrificing work to see you, etc.
 

JuicyApp

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You're describing the loss of innocence that comes with a gal's first full day/week of work - the horror stories are real.
Hell Yeah they're real. That's why majority of them turn to drugs to cope. Numbs the pain, and takes their mind elsewhere...

She was the Most innocent GND I have ever been with. If I saw her again, I'd suck farts out her ass..
 

BonerMaloney

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Try being sensitive, helpful and unselfish for a lengthy time period until trust is built. Then, she will see a real person who cares about you and not so much your money.
This has been my experience.

I'm not looking for a best friend but I do accumulate friends and friendships, and there are some women that I'm friendly with who used to do sex work for a living. They don't see me for my money, because none is ever exchanged. And I don't see them as just someone to fuck, b/c in fact I don't fuck them for the most part. But that's me, I've always been friends with people who have had more interesting lives: junkies, whores, dancers, artists, musicians, etc. So much more interesting hanging with them.

The rest of you have no real clue. Especially those of you who start your posts with "These girls..." or "All these providers..." It should be obvious that of course they're NOT all the same, and of course they're not the same from day to day or year to year. As the time goes by, they have ups & downs, successes & failures, changes in tastes and wants and needs. Just like us. Just like the mythical civies. (Civies who are somehow simultaneously not like these whores, but are also still only out for our money and are all bitches and hos anyway.)

And no you don't have to marry them. Just like you don't have to marry your random hook up in a bar or dating app. But you can get to know them and some are worth knowing. Some are way fun to spend time with. And many of them are pretty hot. Some you may even get into their pants by the end of a night out. (And if you bought them dinner or a few drinks and can only think of that as payment for potential services, you need more help & advice than this board can provide. )
 
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