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Almost went down a stupid path... Falling for a J Girl...

Retired042224

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An impossible question to answer, not knowing you, OP.
Seems like you’re looking for intimacy, maybe to replace the loss of your marriage?
Are you the sort of person who falls in love easily?
Probably everyone here would agree that getting emotionally attached to a hooker is a bad idea…
Intimacy is OK, but falling for one of these girls will be your ruin! I think this game is much easier and more fun if you're old(er). I'm 59 and in very good shape. But, I'm still 59! My chest hair is grey and midsection softer than I'd like it to be. But, when I see myself in the mirror riding my ATF I just look over at my 59 yr old self and smile with a giagantic shit eating grin!
 

rigandine

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I dont love any of these women. Theyre not fit for any long term relationship or family.

Theyre are scandalous dick-brained whores. If they do appalling shit like fuck endless strangers for money theres a ton of other disgusting behaviors they have as well as immoral behaviors.

I know quite a few providers personally , as well as pornstars , including top pornstars in USA and Japan.

Their personal lives are a fucking mess. Every single one of them has extensive damage. I'm not cleaning up that mess. Fuck that.

Its always better to get a decent woman that may be average over a fucking whore that looks wise is a 10. The decent woman's beautiful soul will stay beautiful when their looks fade , the whore woman has the soul of a demon and as she gets older her behavior gets way worse as her looks start to match her soul. Eventually you will be left with someone ugly inside and out versus someone who is only ugly on the outside.

This is inevitable
 

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Its always better to get a decent woman that may be average over a fucking whore that looks wise is a 10. The decent woman's beautiful soul will stay beautiful when their looks fade , the whore woman has the soul of a demon and as she gets older her behavior gets way worse as her looks start to match her soul. Eventually you will be left with someone ugly inside and out versus someone who is only ugly on the outside.

This is inevitable[/QUOTE]

This should be framed in our heads
 

Retired042224

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Its always better to get a decent woman that may be average over a fucking whore that looks wise is a 10. The decent woman's beautiful soul will stay beautiful when their looks fade , the whore woman has the soul of a demon and as she gets older her behavior gets way worse as her looks start to match her soul. Eventually you will be left with someone ugly inside and out versus someone who is only ugly on the outside.

This is inevitable
This should be framed in our heads[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's a wife, or partner. She does much more than fuck and suck, and sometimes she doesn't do much of that, but she is reliable, actually cares for you, and if you're lucky, has some serious skills in the kitchen!
 

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I guess this is the only place where I can vent since only one friend would semi-understand and everyone here gets it My friend just told me one thing she wrote to me in Japanese which didn't translate well... she did pick a date to meet but then changed her mind... bitch. lol
No. her job is to make you feel loved. the more loved you feel the more she earns. in the shop or not.
 

aik

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Yes. My ATF "meets me" outside of the agency for "dates" and overnights, but it is always business first. I literally wrote a "date description" and gave it to her. It clearly states all expectations: time, money, sleep time, etc. There are no misunderstandings. It has worked well. I have a huge crush on her and have to "watch myself" always. If she said "lets run off together" tomorrow, my little head would win! But I am smart enough to know I am just lucky to have established this connection and this arrangement with her. It took time and patience. I am 59 yrs old. She is a 28 yr. old, smoking hot Korean beauty. I am grateful. Its not easy to keep a level head and these girls are real people too. Go with the flow, see what happens. Be realistic and dont expect anything for FREE unless she offers it up!
Free is actually most expensive!!
 

aik

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I guess this is the only place where I can vent since only one friend would semi-understand and everyone here gets it. So yeah, I almost forgot that these girls we meet are looking to make money and nothing more. I've been mongering for 16 years, lost my virginity to a 3 way of hookers when I was a teen. I had an 8 year break when I was in a serious relationship which turned into marriage. Now that that's been over for a year I've been back. One of the J girls I fucked I ended up befriending on social and we've been chatting for a bit now. She opened up to me and while she was home we got closer but who knows maybe she shows everyone her personal life after she yells "Iku!"

In the past I kept this strictly sexual and nothing more, no feelings or shit like that. Purely transactional. Which fucked up my real relationships over the years. Just wanted to fuck, no holding hands with girls and they'd be ok with it til they fell in love with me. Even back in the day, I had more fun fucking hookers over normal girls, gave me a rush. Although I did date a stripper senior year in college so that was fun.

For some reason this one girl got me and the way she looked at me so I went with it. We talked about meeting outside of the room semi soon. But I think she came to her senses that she needs to make money and doesn't want to get in trouble so she doesn't think we can meet which made me realize what the fuck am I thinking. Time for me to get out of my fantasy which would inevitably lead nowhere and I should just be happy fucking her when she comes into town. Plus there's definitely other girls I'd want to fuck too at the aamps and outside. Now that I'm single again, I feel like the energizer bunny.

Also, every time I leave these spots I guess girls sense I just had sex or I'm more confident and I get girls numbers. That happen to any of ya'll too?
Rant over...

My friend just told me one thing she wrote to me in Japanese which didn't translate well... she did pick a date to meet but then changed her mind... bitch. lol
J girls or others are coming here to make money. Good luck bro!
 

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I know quite a few providers personally , as well as pornstars
Me too and I have had a completely different experience with most of them. (Although the few porn stars I got to know were from back in the day, these days there aren't very many bona fide porn stars.)

But there are some who are seriously fucked up.
 

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Great thread. I posted similar at a legit/R&T level in the NJ section. I’m currently and actively suffering emotionally for love of a provider. We fell hard after session 3 when she opened her panties for me to make her feel damn good. How exciting! To touch a young pretty girl’s tight pussy and make her tremble while she DFKs you! I wonder if that other cute chick who arrived while I was paying would let me touch her pussy, too? So the next morning, I schedule the new girl. When I arrive, by chance, my first girl enthusiastically texts me good morning! Sunshine emoji. I had special time yesterday. I typed, “I’m here for a massage from so and so, can I see you after?” She replied, “Delete my number now. Do not text me again!” I thought oh, no. So I cancelled the appt and brought my girl in, we talked. She was upset and jealous. I calmed her down and she provided real love making, not FS, but the real love thing. She was smitten. When paying, the boss said that wasn’t cool. You took money from new girl. I said my bad I’ll see her tomorrow. And nodded to my girl, right? That’s doing the right thing, right? She nodded yes.

Soon after she texted me. “You always wanted that new girl. You just manipulated me to get both of us. We are done.” Of course we weren’t. This only fueled my sadism to torture myself. We never repaired that damage but kept trying and the trying completely fucked me up. I jumped back to the girl I cancelled and started something there. At that point I two head cases in love with me and mad at me.

Meanwhile, a fellow monger was getting prime grade A activities from the original ATF and letting me know, while my sessions with her were warm and cold mostly cold. Never to rekindle though we tried really hard with heart to heart talks over foot rubs.

Over the next 8 weeks, I was dragged through an emotional ringer. Due to a sexless marriage? Lack of affection? No, I think I legitimately got off on the side chick fantasy.

For a few weeks the spa tells me she’s not available when my monger pal has had no problem. You’ll tell me to stay away for a spell. Let it all shake out. I know. That’s what I’m doing. But the regression to early life rejection is the stuff of therapy sessions.

Truth is, I need a side girl who swallows. With fingers that are longer and a torso more slender. I’ll get there.
 

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A long time ago, I developed rapport with a J-girl who gave the best bbbj I've ever had in my long mongering history. We got to know each other even after she left the spa and kept in touch via Line. Even though she officially dropped out of the spa scene, I would still see her on the side in hotels on and off for a couple of years. We kept the $240 price for each event, even though she foot the bill for the hourly stay. At some point, she asked if I would consider marriage to help her get a green card. Given the quality of her services and the fact that she's absolutely adorable, I would've considered it but I was sane enough to know better. Eventually, she did land a husband, but would still see me on the side. Logistics prevent me from seeing her now. She's still married, has a kid, but continues to see original clients on the side. The husband knows what's up and accommodates her. Some evidence that if you're open to a certain lifestyle, it's possible to make it work. Not for everyone though, so I think you have to take a hard look at yourself to determine if you've got the traits necessary. I don't, but I'm kinda jealous of her husband.
That 'husband' looks like a simp to me because he allows her to share his wife like a neighborhood bicycle. That J-girl got the best of the both worlds. A financially stable 'husband' while screwing everybody on the side and have the option to divorce his 'husband' and take half of his money later on if she doesn't deem his 'husband' not good enough. I wouldn't be jealous to her husband but feel sorry for him. With the crazy hoeflation nowadays, unless the girl is dedicated to marriage, IMO it is better to rent these attractive women and not own them.
 

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it is better to rent these attractive women and not own them.

Man…
Why not? I've had an ATF for a few years who would have no problems doing overnights with me on a few occasions. I've asked her to do it lately and she just flaked on me. I'm glad that it don't go anymore than that would lead to a marriage. I'm recently divorced and I'm at a stage where I preparing to become a passport bro. Either that or marry some never married woman who doesn't want to have kids. Meanwhile I just visit amps to satisfy me.
 

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Why not? I've had an ATF for a few years who would have no problems doing overnights with me on a few occasions. I've asked her to do it lately and she just flaked on me. I'm glad that it don't go anymore than that would lead to a marriage. I'm recently divorced and I'm at a stage where I preparing to become a passport bro. Either that or marry some never married woman who doesn't want to have kids. Meanwhile I just visit amps to satisfy me.
Oh, I wasn’t knocking it. I was thunderstruck at how apt…
 

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That 'husband' looks like a simp to me because he allows her to share his wife like a neighborhood bicycle. That J-girl got the best of the both worlds. A financially stable 'husband' while screwing everybody on the side and have the option to divorce his 'husband' and take half of his money later on if she doesn't deem his 'husband' not good enough. I wouldn't be jealous to her husband but feel sorry for him. With the crazy hoeflation nowadays, unless the girl is dedicated to marriage, IMO it is better to rent these attractive women and not own them.
The og poster’s story is eerily similar to what happened to my buddy. I saw a very popular Japanese girl back in 2012? at both an amp and well know shop at Bleecker location. She gave the best BJ and a true GFE. Saw her at least once a week but never outside the place of business. I referred her to a colleague of mine and he became a regular and actually started seeing her outside at his place. Basically he fell in love with her and I was still seeing her on a regular basis. The convos I had with her indicated she also having feelings for my friend. It became awkward for me to continue booking her. During one hot session, I slipped in bare back and drop a load in her. Little did I know they went out to dinner that night. I did him a solid and just stopped seeing her.
 

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That 'husband' looks like a simp to me because he allows her to share his wife like a neighborhood bicycle. That J-girl got the best of the both worlds. A financially stable 'husband' while screwing everybody on the side and have the option to divorce his 'husband' and take half of his money later on if she doesn't deem his 'husband' not good enough. I wouldn't be jealous to her husband but feel sorry for him. With the crazy hoeflation nowadays, unless the girl is dedicated to marriage, IMO it is better to rent these attractive women and not own them.
Total simp. When she went UTR indy, and after she married him, she would host at their place! When I'd go over, he'd leave the apt for a couple of hours and sometimes I'd pass him in the lobby. What a strange life, leaving the apt so your wife can fuck other guys. Evidently, he's pretty well off though I wouldn't call their lifestyle crazy glamorous. While she's completely submissive with me, she tells how much she's required to dominate him and treat him like a slave. Like I said, total simp. All that aside though, seems like she has a very stable relationship, they both seem happy, and have doubled down by having a kid together. She doesn't need the money as he's a good provider. She just loves to fuck and enjoys the variety, and I think he gets off on the tales she can tell him afterwards. I'm pretty sure my paying her is almost optional at this point. Bizarre, but I guess it works for them.
 

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I dont love any of these women. Theyre not fit for any long term relationship or family.

Theyre are scandalous dick-brained whores. If they do appalling shit like fuck endless strangers for money theres a ton of other disgusting behaviors they have as well as immoral behaviors.

I know quite a few providers personally , as well as pornstars , including top pornstars in USA and Japan.

Their personal lives are a fucking mess. Every single one of them has extensive damage. I'm not cleaning up that mess. Fuck that.

Its always better to get a decent woman that may be average over a fucking whore that looks wise is a 10. The decent woman's beautiful soul will stay beautiful when their looks fade , the whore woman has the soul of a demon and as she gets older her behavior gets way worse as her looks start to match her soul. Eventually you will be left with someone ugly inside and out versus someone who is only ugly on the outside.

This is inevitable
The thing is, I’m hearing a lot of loneliness throughout this - and other - comment sections.
We all have a sex addiction to some degree. But intimacy really makes the session hotter. The smart girls know this, and they benefit both financially and emotionally from providing a well-tailored session. Their own egos surely enjoy the attention, the simulacra of love from mongers.

But as you point out, it cannot work, and all the guys who think they can have their cake and eat it too - sex and genuine friendship - are ultimately projecting too much onto the provider, who will eventually let them down.

I’m an old fart. I think marriage is the truest route to relational happiness. Mongering is OK if done with no expectations beyond what that hour provides.
But looking to mongering for genuine intimacy is a dead end.
 

Retired042224

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The thing is, I’m hearing a lot of loneliness throughout this - and other - comment sections.
We all have a sex addiction to some degree. But intimacy really makes the session hotter. The smart girls know this, and they benefit both financially and emotionally from providing a well-tailored session. Their own egos surely enjoy the attention, the simulacra of love from mongers.

But as you point out, it cannot work, and all the guys who think they can have their cake and eat it too - sex and genuine friendship - are ultimately projecting too much onto the provider, who will eventually let them down.

I’m an old fart. I think marriage is the truest route to relational happiness. Mongering is OK if done with no expectations beyond what that hour provides.
But looking to mongering for genuine intimacy is a dead end.
Well said.
 

krideynyc

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Mongering is OK if done with no expectations beyond what that hour provides.
But looking to mongering for genuine intimacy is a dead end.
It is when you think in an hourly transactional basis. I've had plenty of intimate weekends with providers. And that intimacy ends when the weekend is over. When we both return to our normal lives. Those weekends are among the best mongering I've had. I'm not talking about hiring a provider for a weekend, but more in line with the type of off-hour "dating" discussed here.
 
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