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Adios New Jersey

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Salty Vet

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As for legal weed. Lol good luck with that. The Whitman Families control that industry. They put grow houses on their farm assessment land that grow x mas trees. Sweet deal. She’s the EPA head that told the workers at the 911 site the air was not toxic.
I been in middlesex county to long and know too much of the corruption. All at the taxpayers expense.
 

njlefty

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I wish I could answer to the lack of responsible use. I know alcohol kills about 100,000 people each year in the US. I have not seen numbers for weed usage.

I tried CBD oil for some ailments and felt it was just a crock of shit.
 

charliebrown

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I've debated some of these issues with my former neighbors. If you have kids in the public school system in NJ, then you are doing well. But once past that, you should get out due to the high cost of the school system.
@15K you can send you kids to many very impressive private elementary and high schools. Bend over gentlemen and let the state continue screwing you up your ass without lubrication.

I remember a guy in NJ asking for a spa that gives good Prostrate massages, I should have told him to look at his tax bill.
 

charliebrown

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Pot taxes, Colorodo has collected over 1.2B in taxes over a 5 year period. It is a big deal. It is a bigger deal because it decriminalizes pot so we are no longer sitting in Jury duty because some kid was pulled over with a 1/2 oz of weed. When the judge told the prospective jury that is why we had wasted a day, I raised my hand and told the judge if I could be excused because I needed to take a shit. He said no and I purposely rose for every question asked about reasons for not being on the jury. When the question about having confidence in the legal system and the judge was asked, I was the sole person to stand saying I did not trust either. I was dismissed.
 

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The Garden State includes rolling hills and a fabulous seashore, but its state government has done a fine job over the past 20 years of putting the state on the path to financial ruin. By promising unfund- ed payments and kicking responsibility down the road, the state legislators created what is unfolding today, a financial catastrophe... and New Jersey isn’t alone.

By the end of 2018, New Jersey had the worst indebtedness per person of any state in the nation. In- cluding bonds outstanding, promised state pensions, and retiree benefits, each New Jersey resident was on the hook for $65,100. This earned the Garden State an “F” grade from Truth in Accounting, a Chicago-based state finance think tank that assigns letter grades to states based on how much they owe per citizen. Just three states earned an A, while 7 received a B, 13 received a C, and 9 failed.

The next most poorly rated state was Illinois, where citizens owed $52,600 each. That’s pretty awful, but it’s still almost 20% less per person than New Jersey. All of this was long before the coronavirus and the economic shutdown.

Earlier this year, before COVID-19 was a common term, New Jersey pensions were about 40% funded, meaning they had just 40 cents for every dollar of benefit they had promised to retirees. And yet the state had planned to make just 70% of its required pension contribution this fiscal year, which would have put the state even further behind. Now, even that modest plan is out the window.
 

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Salty forget Maryland go to Delaware much cheaper. Colorado is doing well with pot revenue all the other states have only got a fraction of what was anticipated in tax revenue. The pension is invested in the stock market if that ever crashes NJ would be totally screwed. When people say go after wall street they do not realize that is where the average workers pension is invested not just the rich.
 

Salty Vet

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Thanks BVBV. I’ll have to take a look. I normally keep my annuity/ pension in the stable bond fund because after 25 yrs. and 4 hits in the market I can relax. The dot com bubble, the mortgage crisis, the interest rate inversion, and now the virus.
Thank God I got out early and took a little beating. My friends who listened and stayed in have never recovered, some had to continue to work to build the principle back up. 300k makes 8,500. Less their fees, so say 8k
I’m ok with that . I lived thru 22% interest rates and Ford’s WIN. Try to sell a boat in that inflated cycle.
 

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Regarding NJ taxes. It’ll never get better. The more they collect the more they spend.
4 examples, lottery, Atantic City, online gambling, and sales tax.
In my lifetime I’ve seen those 4 implemented. Still can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel.
I’m sure I’m forgetting others.
Let’s not forget the temporary tolls that were only going to last until the road was paid off.
Increase in the gas tax. With the little option of the state can increase or decrease (yeah that will ever happen) to fix the roads. The roads are worse now than before the increase.
Unfortunately the problem in NJ is the teachers union. My property tax bill over 60% of goes to schools.
Probably cheaper to send my kids to Harvard at this rate.
Last one out of NJ please turn the lights off.
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njlefty

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Regarding NJ taxes. It’ll never get better. The more they collect the more they spend.
4 examples, lottery, Atantic City, online gambling, and sales tax.
In my lifetime I’ve seen those 4 implemented. Still can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel.
I’m sure I’m forgetting others.
Let’s not forget the temporary tolls that were only going to last until the road was paid off.
Increase in the gas tax. With the little option of the state can increase or decrease (yeah that will ever happen) to fix the roads. The roads are worse now than before the increase.
Unfortunately the problem in NJ is the teachers union. My property tax bill over 60% of goes to schools.
Probably cheaper to send my kids to Harvard at this rate.
Last one out of NJ please turn the lights off.
Thank you
That pretty much sums up my experience and sentiments.

With the schools, I actually don't blame the NJEA.

I blame my idiot former neighbors for giving the school system every dollar it has ever wanted.

You can't fix stupid, so I left.
 

njlefty

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The NJEA is an enemy of the taxpayer. It's all about money and benefits no care for the students.
I will add that New Jersey has over 500 separate school districts. Each one with administrators and overhead and big costs. 500 separate fiefdoms is the Jersey way. Same thing with police forces. Fucking ridiculous, excuse my French.
 

DrHappy88

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I will add that New Jersey has over 500 separate school districts. Each one with administrators and overhead and big costs. 500 separate fiefdoms is the Jersey way.
The best part is the school districts that do not have schools. The euphemism used to describe them is "non-operating" and, according to the state DOE, there were 16 for the 18/19 school year. Obviously, most of these towns have kids they have to send somewhere, but why the hell do they need a board of education and an administrator? Let the local town council handle the few kids they need to ship out.
 

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Crazier still:
A few of those “non-operative” districts ane mandated by laws requiring towns to have them- ignoring the reasons those specific the towns were incorporated was to skirt blue law’s socks some fat cats could golf on a Sunday.. The “town” is a country club with a few houses originally owned by club board members as summer cottages.
 

njlefty

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Crazier still:
A few of those “non-operative” districts ane mandated by laws requiring towns to have them- ignoring the reasons those specific the towns were incorporated was to skirt blue law’s socks some fat cats could golf on a Sunday.. The “town” is a country club with a few houses originally owned by club board members as summer cottages.
Typical for New Jersey.

New Jersey's high number of school districts was due to racism. They would not go with county districts because the white folks migrating to the burbs wanted a clean break from anything to do with New Jersey's predominantly black cities. It is all there in truth, but denied to this day.
 

njlefty

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New Jersey always had interesting characters.

There was Mayor Frank Hague of Jersey City.

His only job was Mayor and it paid him $8,000 a year.

When he died, he had $10 million in the bank.:D
 

DrHappy88

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Crazier still:
A few of those “non-operative” districts ane mandated by laws requiring towns to have them- ignoring the reasons those specific the towns were incorporated was to skirt blue law’s socks some fat cats could golf on a Sunday.. The “town” is a country club with a few houses originally owned by club board members as summer cottages.
Besides golf on Sundays, I think Tavistock also wanted to be able to serve liquor at the country club and Haddonfield was (and for the most part, still is) a dry town.
 
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