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Your Constitutional Right
- Thread starter njlefty
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I am as anti-government as they come but what you want to call adult sexual privacy is sex in exchange for money which the state has an interest to regulate for the protection of those with comparatively inferior bargaining power. What may seem consentual may not be so - I don't know ANY hot 20 something babe that is looking forward to suck some shriveled up old man balls. They do it because because they may be in a position where they have to or worse, are forced to by some sleazy pimp.
Kridey - there is a fine line distinction that needs to be made in discussions over making something legal/illegal. Everything is "legal" (i.e. permissible) unless a law has been passed to make it illegal. So it isn't that Nevada made prostitution legal, it is that they didn't make it illegal. Similar to the US Constitution reserving everything to the States if not enumerated as a Federal power or jurisdiction. So when we talk about making prostitution legal, what we are really proposing is repealing those laws that have been put in place making it illegal. That is also why we hear the pseudo liberals and SJW talking about decriminalization. They are trying to have it both ways - well it ain't a crime, but it is a violation of a civil nature, sort of like a ticket for putting the garbage out on the wrong day. The Constitutional basis for a State, County, City to pass such laws (criminal or civil) can be argued for/against under various guises, not on the "moral" vs. "consenting adults" basis, but under regulatory, business licenses, health, skills or whatever other tomfoolery they think will pass muster.
Come to think of it, that is what we should aim for. A license scheme that includes a skills test, with biannual continuing education requirements. As I have now proposed this, I get to be the first Commissioner of Prostitution (COP) and the tester in chief. The rest of you can apply for jobs as my assistants.
Come to think of it, that is what we should aim for. A license scheme that includes a skills test, with biannual continuing education requirements. As I have now proposed this, I get to be the first Commissioner of Prostitution (COP) and the tester in chief. The rest of you can apply for jobs as my assistants.
I agree with that. What I didn't agree with was saying the Constitution did not permit laws to be defined by the States as they saw fit. As long as the laws are not unconstitutional. I also had an issue with the argument itself. Saying "there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits prostitution" is just plain stupid. Murder, and a host of other crimes, are not specifically prohibited within the Constitution. No one in their right mind would argue that everyone has the Constitutional right to kill someone.
Who said that exactly?
There is nothing wrong with that statement. As @Hardrobert correctly stated: unless something is unconstitutional, everything is legal unless a law is passed to make it illegal. There are a whole host of laws that have been passed to make all kinds of things illegal, including prostitution. And, as long as we're talking stupid, what is really stupid is trying to put prostitution in the same category as murder when it comes to illegality.
There is nothing wrong with that statement. As @Hardrobert correctly stated: unless something is unconstitutional, everything is legal unless a law is passed to make it illegal. There are a whole host of laws that have been passed to make all kinds of things illegal, including prostitution. And, as long as we're talking stupid, what is really stupid is trying to put prostitution in the same category as murder when it comes to illegality.
You did with the word "nothing". Hence my reminder.
That's incorrect. Uncontitutional applies to laws that affects all 50 States. You can have contrary laws between States. And that's why the SCOTUS is kept busy.
Standard Litmus Test for arguments in a debate. Substitute another crime and see if the argument still holds up. Murder is still a crime, and it's an extreme, but valid example to use as a test.
That's incorrect. Uncontitutional applies to laws that affects all 50 States. You can have contrary laws between States. And that's why the SCOTUS is kept busy.
Standard Litmus Test for arguments in a debate. Substitute another crime and see if the argument still holds up. Murder is still a crime, and it's an extreme, but valid example to use as a test.
Uh, no one said the Constitution didn't apply to the states. You seem to have a habit of incorporating statements in your argument that no one actually made.
And, yes, even laws against extreme crimes like murder, rape, arson, etc have to be passed at the state level. Why? Because the Constitution does not explicitly address those things. There are Federal laws against those crimes as well, but those only apply in very specific circumstances (like if they occur on Federal property).
And, yes, even laws against extreme crimes like murder, rape, arson, etc have to be passed at the state level. Why? Because the Constitution does not explicitly address those things. There are Federal laws against those crimes as well, but those only apply in very specific circumstances (like if they occur on Federal property).