Wondering what exactly PSE implies

[topjimmy]

There are so many other ways you could have said that. Accusing the literal owner of an AMP reviews site (topjimmy) as among "some of these clueless people" takes quite a bit of hubris.



Which is why I acknowledged that sites tend to use muddle up terms as a form of euphemism/upsell. If you pay attention to newbie reports where they describe how they ask the PO what the terms mean you'll see that it is no accident; the PO's are intentionally misleading newbies to upsell the so-called GFE/PSE based on the literal definition not euphemism.

This is also why I emphasize and encourage people to adopt the "proper" definition in their reviews to help fellow punters identify if the girl in the review will deliver the experience they're looking for, as we all have different preferences.

sexyloser,

It's alright. He probably didn't know, so no biggie.

I posted the traditionally known and nationally accepted definition of GFE and PSE that's been used by the masses for decades.

But I'd go on to say that to a certain extent, Mr Juan Jr is right........I actually was clueless to the fact that in this local market, the Bay Area Korean AMPs had taken liberties with the acronyms and redefined them to suit their own purposes as a marketing ploy that a designation of PSE is to be interpreted as including BBFS. That's a new one on me, and actually pretty clever. Thanks Juan for "clue-ing me in". I've been officially schooled, and no Juan I won't ban you for it. You get to stick around awhile.

 

[Fanofhotties]

What topjimmy said. Sometimes bbbj and cim, cot, cof; but those C's are rare. Never cip though

 

[Twister]

Considering this is a Bay Area forum aside from Top Jimmy who is not from here so he has his own regional experience, what are the rest of you even talking about? PSE has always meant BBFS and was always advertised that way. Are there people here not from the Bay Area?

 

[Whizzard]

It's a clueless take when referring to the bay area K girl scene. PSE does not imply a wild time will be had. And implying this is wrong for people looking for this type of experience in the bay area k girl scene. Well if I get banned it won't be the first time not a big deal.

You won’t get banned but you’re clueless. You just don’t know what pse can really mean. You keep mentioning the current scene but a portion of your screen name gives away your inexperience… Jr.

I once banged an Indy several times and kept trying to get in her ass. She was laid back and very chill, always agreed but never could handle it and being the gentleman, I never tried to force it.
I also love to slip and slide(Nuru) True story junior. I bought a plastic painters tarp, half gallon of mineral oil and a baby cucumber if some sort and met her at a short stay hotel.
Put that tarp on the bed and proceeded to play with her for two pops. The baby cucumber? That was the bridge to Greek. Fucked the shit out of each other for 2 hours slipping and sliding and fucking. I had Balls!! When I was younger. When you smash a hooker and she’s says she needs a cigarette after, you know things went really well.
I can only imagine what the room cleaning crew had to think when they found that tarp and unused oil in the bathroom garbage can.
That’s pse bro! Keep talking your petty shit.

 

[KeepOnKeepinOn]

In the Bay Area, PSE means BBFS. Nothing more nothing less. Elsewhere it may mean a wild time, but here in the Bay Area it literally means BBFS. It has nothing to do with the level of enthusiam or energy the girl will bring to the sessions. Orgs here advertise with PSE vs GFE and it explicitely means whether or not the provider will do BBFS. Again I must reitterate this is how the term is used in the BAY AREA. You can argue that this definition is wrong or innaccurate, but if you are in the Bay area using any other definition would be misleading.

 

[Scooby66]

FWIW i reached out to Escort10Pro and actually asked if they had providers that did NOT do bbfs. The response was that they did not, but that that everything was clean, they had no complaints, and that i could always choose covered service. They were polite about it and I really appreciated the response. That clarified things and means I need to continue my search for cfs-only providers if I want to avoid that extra risk factor. TKG seems to have GFE only providers (that sound amazing) but if I could find an org in the SFBA proper that would be even better.

 

[Whizzard]

In the Bay Area, PSE means BBFS. Nothing more nothing less. Elsewhere it may mean a wild time, but here in the Bay Area it literally means BBFS. It has nothing to do with the level of enthusiam or energy the girl will bring to the sessions. Orgs here advertise with PSE vs GFE and it explicitely means whether or not the provider will do BBFS. Again I must reitterate this is how the term is used in the BAY AREA. You can argue that this definition is wrong or innaccurate, but if you are in the Bay area using any other definition would be misleading.

But you are the one accepting that. They are just words. Perhaps there is no true pse in the Bay Area. Fine… but don’t just acquiesce to what someone is trying to define to you.

 

[Twister]

But you are the one accepting that. They are just words. Perhaps there is no true pse in the Bay Area. Fine… but don’t just acquiesce to what someone is trying to define to you.

What are you talking about?

 

[Whizzard]

I must apologize. You guys are correct that certain meanings are appropriate with certain regions. But I will warn you. Just remember. In the movie, demolition man, Sylvester Stallone banged Sandra bullock through a virtual reality headset. It’s crazy and sad how 25 year old movies can predict the future. Careful youthful gentleman, or you may get what you didn’t wish for. I’m out… from the east coast!

 

[KeepOnKeepinOn]

I must apologize. You guys are correct that certain meanings are appropriate with certain regions. But I will warn you. Just remember. In the movie, demolition man, Sylvester Stallone banged Sandra bullock through a virtual reality headset. It’s crazy and sad how 25 year old movies can predict the future. Careful youthful gentleman, or you may get what you didn’t wish for. I’m out… from the east coast!

???
Dont over complicate things. The OP asked what PSE means and posted in the Bay Area section. If you want to ignore its regional meaning thats up to you, but vague posts with indirect multiple meanings like yours will only confuse readers. One more time for those who are actually in the Bay Area, if you see an advertisement based here PSE means BBFS. THAT IS ALL.

 

[KeepOnKeepinOn]

But you are the one accepting that. They are just words. Perhaps there is no true pse in the Bay Area. Fine… but don’t just acquiesce to what someone is trying to define to you.

Many reviews here will post a FBSA

F
B
S
A

The higher the S and A Rating will give you an idea of how "wild" the session will be.

 

[sexyloser]

Even in the bay area there are a lot more to the Bay Area scene than K-Orgs and C-Orgs. Find any indie provider and they will not accept that definition. I'm not a frequent Latin/Brazil-org customer but from the ads and reviews I've seen I don't believe they use that definition either.

Additionally, the original post did not specify their question is in interpreting ads, it seemed more like a general question based on web research. Giving a complete picture is much more meaningful than the narrow K-Org and C-Org definition.

 

[sexyloser]

Many reviews here will post a FBSA

F
B
S
A

The higher the S and A Rating will give you an idea of how "wild" the session will be.

For FBSA, a intimate GFE session can score S 10 A 10 just as easily as a mindless animalistic wild sex. It doesn't help differentiate service styles for different punter's preferences.

GFE stars like Ceroni and Joah aren't known for wild sex but for the intimacy they offer. Yuffie on the other hand is complete mindblowing no nonsense no chatting wild sex. Both types easily score their 10/10 SA.

 

[KeepOnKeepinOn]

For FBSA, a intimate GFE session can score S 10 A 10 just as easily as a mindless animalistic wild sex. It doesn't help differentiate service styles for different punter's preferences.

GFE stars like Ceroni and Joah aren't known for wild sex but for the intimacy they offer. Yuffie on the other hand is complete mindblowing no nonsense no chatting wild sex. Both types easily score their 10/10 SA.

Hence why i said "gives you an idea" obviously nothing is universal. That said PSE means BBFS. That is a fact. If you want to disect it further and try to find a universal defintion youre waisting your time. In the bay area PSE vs GFE is BBFS vs CFS. Its really not that deep. Youre trying to get philosophical over something thats not that philosophical. But since you want to go that route, some providers are refered to a service queens. Sometimes that can mean she will provide a more energetic wild session. Again you can come back and dispute this all you want and come up with more deeper definitions to all these terms. At the end of the day its really not that helpful.

 

[sexyloser]

Hence why i said "gives you an idea" obviously nothing is universal. That said PSE means BBFS. That is a fact.

No it's not, and I will never agree with this. Feel free to live in your C-Org/K-Org bubble, I agree its a very good bubble, probably the best bubble even, but that's not the entirety of the Bay Area scene. To pretend otherwise is being disingenuous. As I've also said before, if you read any newbie reviews where they asked a PO, the PO will give them the literal definition of GFE and PSE, not mentioning that its an upsell or euphemism, because they know what they're doing.

I've spent well into 5 figures in this hobby in this year alone and sampled almost all areas. I probably know a thing or two more than most.

 

[Juanjr650]

You won’t get banned but you’re clueless. You just don’t know what pse can really mean. You keep mentioning the current scene but a portion of your screen name gives away your inexperience… Jr.

I once banged an Indy several times and kept trying to get in her ass. She was laid back and very chill, always agreed but never could handle it and being the gentleman, I never tried to force it.
I also love to slip and slide(Nuru) True story junior. I bought a plastic painters tarp, half gallon of mineral oil and a baby cucumber if some sort and met her at a short stay hotel.
Put that tarp on the bed and proceeded to play with her for two pops. The baby cucumber? That was the bridge to Greek. Fucked the shit out of each other for 2 hours slipping and sliding and fucking. I had Balls!! When I was younger. When you smash a hooker and she’s says she needs a cigarette after, you know things went really well.
I can only imagine what the room cleaning crew had to think when they found that tarp and unused oil in the bathroom garbage can.
That’s pse bro! Keep talking your petty shit.

Maybe the part about the bay area k girl scene is completely beyond your comprehension. I don't give a rats ass about some indie in some fictional dimension of your mind.

 

[Juanjr650]

Hence why i said "gives you an idea" obviously nothing is universal. That said PSE means BBFS. That is a fact. If you want to disect it further and try to find a universal defintion youre waisting your time. In the bay area PSE vs GFE is BBFS vs CFS. Its really not that deep. Youre trying to get philosophical over something thats not that philosophical. But since you want to go that route, some providers are refered to a service queens. Sometimes that can mean she will provide a more energetic wild session. Again you can come back and dispute this all you want and come up with more deeper definitions to all these terms. At the end of the day its really not that helpful.

At least there is one person on this site with some common sense. Couldn't have said it better. It's that simple PSE vs GFE here in the bay area K girl scene. Not referring to these idiots other experiences in those terms. I have sent in the 5 digits every year over the last 20 years seeing k girls not indies or other types. That is why I'm clearly stating this refers only to the current k girl scene.

 

[Runon99]

I hope you're taking notes, Scooby66, there's a lot of info in all of these replies.

If you're looking at a listing for a girl from a Bay Area K-AAMP, PSE probably just means BBFS on top of the regular GFE.

If you're looking at an ad for a white/Latina girl on Private Delights, PSE probably means something completely different and not BBFS at all.

If you're looking at an ad for an escort in Lincoln, Nebraska, PSE probably means she'll let you fuck her with an ear of corn or something.

So to circle back to your original question, what the web tells you about the definition of PSE doesn't matter much without some important context. You didn't ask this question on the general board discussion forum, you asked it in a Bay Area sub-forum that probably gets the most traffic from guys who visit AMPs and AAMPs. YMMV.

 

[KeepOnKeepinOn]

No it's not, and I will never agree with this. Feel free to live in your C-Org/K-Org bubble, I agree its a very good bubble, probably the best bubble even, but that's not the entirety of the Bay Area scene. To pretend otherwise is being disingenuous. As I've also said before, if you read any newbie reviews where they asked a PO, the PO will give them the literal definition of GFE and PSE, not mentioning that its an upsell or euphemism, because they know what they're doing.

I've spent well into 5 figures in this hobby in this year alone and sampled almost all areas. I probably know a thing or two more than most.

Ok now youre just being obnoxious with the "need to be right"
Good for you on spending well over 5 figures this year alone.

But you want to be right so... ok fine youre right.

You're right. I'm wrong.

PSE does not mean BBFS.
Not because thats what it actually means, but because some sexyloser whos spent over 5 figures in 2023 said so.

Listen to him readers. Dont listen to me.





Eye roll..

 

[sexyloser]

Ok now youre just being obnoxious with the "need to be right"
Good for you on spending well over 5 figures this year alone.

But you want to be right so... ok fine youre right.

You're right. I'm wrong.

PSE does not mean BBFS.
Not because thats what it actually means, but because some sexyloser whos spent over 5 figures in 2023 said so.

Listen to him readers. Dont listen to me.





Eye roll..

At least Juan is consistent in each of his posts acknowledging that he is strictly talking about the Bay Area K-girl scene. I can accept this statements being a fair take. He says he doesn't give a damn about Bay Area scenes outside of the K-girls but he also doesn't make broad stroke claims beyond that.

You on the other hand keep imposing your misguided view on the rest of the community and ingratiate yourself with sarcasm thinking you're being a wise guy.

I don't have an ego that needs stroking, I'm just here to answer the original post.