Wondering what exactly PSE implies

[KeepOnKeepinOn]

At least Juan is consistent in each of his posts acknowledging that he is strictly talking about the Bay Area K-girl scene. I can accept this statements being a fair take. He says he doesn't give a damn about Bay Area scenes outside of the K-girls but he also doesn't make broad stroke claims beyond that.

You on the other hand keep imposing your misguided view on the rest of the community and ingratiate yourself with sarcasm thinking you're being a wise guy.

I don't have an ego that needs stroking, I'm just here to answer the original post.

Yea ok buddy.

Youre the type of guy that would argue until he was blue in the face that a provider who offers gay services, means the session is done in a happy and merry manner.

You're all ego, Mr "I've spent 5 figures blah blah blah" and "I know more than most." Youre not trying to just answer the question. If you were you wouldnt go on with your long dissertation and call me disingenius. If you were trying to answer the question you would be direct and to the point knowing FULL WELL that the reviews and discussion on this board is primarily focused on K-orgs. But since you dont need youre ego stroked (you actually do) i acknoledge you, the sexyloser as the all knowing deity of the board. Youre right. I'm wrong.

 

[Twister]

Isn’t this an AMP related forum? And we are in the Bay Area. Most reviews are for AAMPS or AMPS so PSE means BBFS to us.

 

[sexyloser]

Yea ok buddy.

Youre the type of guy that would argue until he was blue in the face that a provider who offers gay services, means the session is done in a happy and merry manner.

You're all ego, Mr "I've spent 5 figures blah blah blah" and "I know more than most." Youre not trying to just answer the question. If you were you wouldnt go on with your long dissertation and call me disingenius. If you were trying to answer the question you would be direct and to the point knowing FULL WELL that the reviews and discussion on this board is primarily focused on K-orgs. But since you dont need youre ego stroked (you actually do) i acknoledge you, the sexyloser as the all knowing deity of the board. Youre right. I'm wrong.

1) Read this thread and look at how which people are expressing which view points.

2) You act as if C-Orgs and K-Orgs don't operate outside of Bay Area or that the same girls don't move between LA/NYC/BA with the same ads like this is all an exclusively Bay Area thing.

And I'm the one that's pretending to be an authority as opposed to giving the OP a complete view of the term that actually reflects reality? (which included the ads euphemism)


Lastly, US151 is a Chinese-only forum but basically the equivalent of AMPreviews with the exception that they allow org owners to mingle and discuss with clients in their private access forum. (And it's here where you see the Watersnake's affiliated orgs identify themselves by nickname rather than generic "Location #") You will see that orgs of each region are very closely connected in terms of referring each other rising stars they can bring under their biz etc. They only push the PSE==BBFS definition in the ads, even within the forums they don't push that definition and will use the general/"national" definition of GFE/PSE when they mingle and discuss with mongers.

 

[sexyloser]

Isn’t this an AMP related forum? And we are in the Bay Area. Most reviews are for AAMPS or AMPS so PSE means BBFS to us.

TBF aside from a handful of exceptions storefront AMPs generally don't put out ads especially not spelling out specific services available. So this is really just an AAMP definition propagated by ads.

 

[KeepOnKeepinOn]

Isn’t this an AMP related forum? And we are in the Bay Area. Most reviews are for AAMPS or AMPS so PSE means BBFS to us.

No no no no no! The Sexyloser says you are wrong wrong wrong! Listen to him! He is all knowing. Bow down to him!

 

[KeepOnKeepinOn]

1) Read this thread and look at how which people are expressing which view points.

2) You act as if C-Orgs and K-Orgs don't operate outside of Bay Area or that the same girls don't move between LA/NYC/BA with the same ads like this is all an exclusively Bay Area thing.

And I'm the one that's pretending to be an authority as opposed to giving the OP a complete view of the term that actually reflects reality? (which included the ads euphemism)


Lastly, US151 is a Chinese-only forum but basically the equivalent of AMPreviews with the exception that they allow org owners to mingle and discuss with clients in their private access forum. (And it's here where you see the Watersnake's affiliated orgs identify themselves by nickname rather than generic "Location #") You will see that orgs of each region are very closely connected in terms of referring each other rising stars they can bring under their biz etc. They only push the PSE==BBFS definition in the ads, even within the forums they don't push that definition and will use the general/"national" definition of GFE/PSE when they mingle and discuss with mongers.

Yes oh masterful sexyloser. I acknowledge you as king of the mongerverse! You are all knowing and knowledgible. Blessed be the 5 figures you have spent in 2023.


For everyone else with an emotionalky balanced ego that just wants general information... Follow the general, but not absolute rule of PSE = BBFS.

 

[Twister]

TBF aside from a handful of exceptions storefront AMPs generally don't put out ads especially not spelling out specific services available. So this is really just an AAMP definition propagated by ads.

I mentioned AMPS based on the title of this website however I Only ever hear PSE when it’s pertaining to Korean AAMPS. I never see that advertised anywhere else, only GFE.

 

[sexyloser]

I mentioned AMPS based on the title of this website however I Only ever hear PSE when it’s pertaining to Korean AAMPS. I never see that advertised anywhere else, only GFE.

I can agree with that sentiment. However, seeing that we accept PD and adultsearch reports here and let's face it, AAMPs don't actually deal in massages I think unless the site staff collectively choose to tighten it back to storefront AMPs only, the actual scope of this community has become much broader since its inception.

Since AAMPs don't actually deal in massages and operate more like hotel/motel escorts, which is a complete different experience from AMP's, it would seem rather arbitrary to only accept AAMP definitions as legitimate but exclude the rest.

 

[KeepOnKeepinOn]

I can agree with that sentiment. However, seeing that we accept PD and adultsearch reports here and let's face it, AAMPs don't actually deal in massages I think unless the site staff collectively choose to tighten it back to storefront AMPs only, the actual scope of this community has become much broader since its inception.

Since AAMPs don't actually deal in massages and operate more like hotel/motel escorts, which is a complete different experience from AMP's, it would seem rather arbitrary to only accept AAMP definitions as legitimate but exclude the rest.

You really do talk too much. All your posts and especially your reviews are way too long winded. Just get to the point. If you really wanted to be helpful on this board thats what you would do. If you are seeking praise and adulation thats never going to come keep posting how you post. Btw PSE = BBFS.

 

[sexyloser]

Ok now youre just being obnoxious with the "need to be right"
Good for you on spending well over 5 figures this year alone.

But you want to be right so... ok fine youre right.

You're right. I'm wrong.

PSE does not mean BBFS.
Not because thats what it actually means, but because some sexyloser whos spent over 5 figures in 2023 said so.

Listen to him readers. Dont listen to me.





Eye roll..

Yea ok buddy.

Youre the type of guy that would argue until he was blue in the face that a provider who offers gay services, means the session is done in a happy and merry manner.

You're all ego, Mr "I've spent 5 figures blah blah blah" and "I know more than most." Youre not trying to just answer the question. If you were you wouldnt go on with your long dissertation and call me disingenius. If you were trying to answer the question you would be direct and to the point knowing FULL WELL that the reviews and discussion on this board is primarily focused on K-orgs. But since you dont need youre ego stroked (you actually do) i acknoledge you, the sexyloser as the all knowing deity of the board. Youre right. I'm wrong.

No no no no no! The Sexyloser says you are wrong wrong wrong! Listen to him! He is all knowing. Bow down to him!

Yes oh masterful sexyloser. I acknowledge you as king of the mongerverse! You are all knowing and knowledgible. Blessed be the 5 figures you have spent in 2023.


For everyone else with an emotionalky balanced ego that just wants general information... Follow the general, but not absolute rule of PSE = BBFS.

You really do talk too much. All your posts and especially your reviews are way too long winded. Just get to the point. If you really wanted to be helpful on this board thats what you would do. If you are seeking praise and adulation thats never going to come keep posting how you post. Btw PSE = BBFS.

lol. No need. I think your obsession with me speaks for itself better than anything I can write. I'm also flattered that you bothered to investigate my post history, who knew I have that kind of effect?

 

[KeepOnKeepinOn]

lol. No need. I think your obsession with me speaks for itself better than anything I can write. I'm also flattered that you bothered to investigate my post history, who knew I have that kind of effect?

Dude youre a legend.. in your own mind.

 

[DrZaius]

This is not like ordering the #1 at McDonald’s and getting the exact same thing nationwide. PSE just means you have the option, raincoat or not. YMMV is the one constant in this world.

 

[Scooby66]

I hope you're taking notes, Scooby66, there's a lot of info in all of these replies.

If you're looking at a listing for a girl from a Bay Area K-AAMP, PSE probably just means BBFS on top of the regular GFE.

If you're looking at an ad for a white/Latina girl on Private Delights, PSE probably means something completely different and not BBFS at all.

If you're looking at an ad for an escort in Lincoln, Nebraska, PSE probably means she'll let you fuck her with an ear of corn or something.

So to circle back to your original question, what the web tells you about the definition of PSE doesn't matter much without some important context. You didn't ask this question on the general board discussion forum, you asked it in a Bay Area sub-forum that probably gets the most traffic from guys who visit AMPs and AAMPs. YMMV.

Yes indeed! And what a wild ride it has been . Thanks everyone for your insights.

This may need to become it's own thread, but clearly there are others who would rather see GFE- only providers to avoid the extra risk and feel safer. Perhaps letting the orgs know would make them aware of the demand and increase the supply.

 

[wrongwaycorrigan]

PSE definitely does NOT imply BBFS.

GFE experience, akin to a loving affectionate experience that resembles one with an actual girlfriend. Could be a full hour of face to face sex, completely lip-locked the entire time. Lovey dovey, major eye contact, deep passionate kissing…..intensely emotional, as if you’re deeply in love or falling in love.

PSE experience, akin to a wild sex romp, not with a ton of googly eyed affection, but instead an abundance of passion and the intent of fucking your partners brains out. Expect your partner to be more aggressive than gentle. Lots of position switches, incl non-traditional angles like you’d see in a porn flick. Not about mimicking a lovemaking experience with the love of your life at all. Strictly sexual gratification is what PSEs all about. Intensely physical.

pretty sure PSE meaning in AAMP land means BBFS.

 

[AGAR1986]

PSE def does not imply to bbfs .
Just a more involved/ physical / no lovey dovey crazy good time.
usually cim cof , video etc

I believe most providers have a completely diff definition to what they are open to do

 

[Justinbro2002]

In the Bay area kgirl scene PSE means bbbf. It use to mean a more raunchy experience with cim, dfk ECT but not bbfs. That changed in the last decade or so now it means everything uncovered except maybe Greek.

 

[Juanjr650]

In the Bay area kgirl scene PSE means bbbf. It use to mean a more raunchy experience with cim, dfk ECT but not bbfs. That changed in the last decade or so now it means everything uncovered except maybe Greek.

I can't believe how difficult of a concept this is for people to understand in a bay area forum. Especially when K girls is minus amps which are completely different the main thing discussed here. All these people want to bring up irrelevant crap that has to do to with this lmao.

 

[Twister]

PSE def does not imply to bbfs .
Just a more involved/ physical / no lovey dovey crazy good time.
usually cim cof , video etc

I believe most providers have a completely diff definition to what they are open to do

Well you’re def wrong lol

 

[Rutts Hutt]

Majority of porn movies I've seen are bbfs. ALL my girlfriends have been bbfscip.Of course it's all subjective.

 

[sexyloser]

I can't believe how difficult of a concept this is for people to understand in a bay area forum. Especially when K girls is minus amps which are completely different the main thing discussed here. All these people want to bring up irrelevant crap that has to do to with this lmao.

That's the thing though, it's not uniquely Bay Area thing, its a K-AAMP thing. I'm not sure why some people are trying to pretend that we're some special snowflake.

https://topangels.ch/all-angels/
https://usbodyshop.us/product/sexy/
https://bubblesgirlsnyc.com/bubblesgirl-jamie/

None of these are from the bay area. AAMP also aren't AMPs other than in name. They are completely the same as any agency-run escort business, just better run with greater service and value. When's the last time you had a massage and negotiate the same way as you do in AMPs?

Trying to claim the K-AAMP model is a uniquely Bay Area thing is just.. weird? This forum has been accommodating reports from PD, Adultsearch, Indies, Latin/Russian orgs, etc. the Bay Area scene is much bigger than K-AAMP. There's only 3 people in this thread insisting the K-AAMP definition is the only BA definition, two of them unreasonably strongly so.