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Seeking Arrangments (& other Sugar Daddy sites)

Shibsaeggi

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It’s important with SBs to set the rules, not let them take advantage of our generosity. I’ve had some of these girls ask for cash outside of the original pay per meet agreement, always citing some personal catastrophe, like overdue rent or bills. Once you give them money without getting something in return (sex), you are going down a slippery slope. They will often repeat the request later on, seeing that it worked before. Be firm and always maintain the upper hand
You are Absolutely right! :)

And it always starts with a “phone bill” and then “rent” or a “class” that they need to take. lol.
 

Shibsaeggi

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I agree. Set the amount up front and don't change. The occasional gift, whether it's a bracelet, earphones, whatever, is ok sometimes, and gets appreciated.
I agree with you. :)

A pain in the ass is when I’m seeing several of them at the end of the year and beginning of the new year—Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year’s Eve, New Year’s, Super Bowl party, Valentine’s Day, etc. This is when I will lay low and focus on work. lol.
 

VJLUTZ

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It’s important with SBs to set the rules, not let them take advantage of our generosity. I’ve had some of these girls ask for cash outside of the original pay per meet agreement, always citing some personal catastrophe, like overdue rent or bills. Once you give them money without getting something in return (sex), you are going down a slippery slope. They will often repeat the request later on, seeing that it worked before. Be firm and always maintain the upper hand
If you give them a helping-hand payment without conditions, wait a few weeks and (likewise) ask them for a "helping-hand" w/o conditions. See what happens. If they pass on your request, time to move on. What's good for the goose is also good for the gander.
 

threeforthemoney

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So, I'll pose a new question. What is it worth?

Most Mongers are 50 and older, just a guess. We all know the typical 60 house fee + tip, let's say you walk out of an AMP for $160 to $200, typically for an hour. Some speak English better than others, typically there can be a language barrier. Is there passion? Perhaps. DATY, I'll leave that up to you to decide. BBBJ? At some places, but not that common.

On Seeking, you meet a 21 to 23 year old, slim, attending college, attractive, dresses well, all of that. She comes over to your place, in this case, you live alone obviously. You know her full name, First and last, and you've verified it through social media, her phone number is real, hell, you've even seen her drivers license. So each of you know each others identity. It's a mutual no strings attached, once a week arrangement. She shows up at a prearranged time, let's sat 5 pm on Tuesday. You embrace and kiss, you make her a martini, glass of wine, whatever. You've prepared some oysters, cheese and crackers, whatever. At about 8 pm, you make dinner, something easy, rice and fish, perhaps through a steak on the grill; hell, even spagetti and balls, just something for dinner. By 9-9:30, you retire to the bedroom. The session involves what you consider to be passion. Lots of kissing, mutual touching, etc. 15 minutes of 69. Then good hard bare back sex. Afterwards, perhaps some TV, small talk, cuddling, etc. At 6-7 am, you start all over again with round 2. Both take showers, you make simple coffee and a quick breakfast, and she is off, you you are off to work, whatever.

What is that overnight worth, obviously much better than an hour at the AMP? Just wanting to hear some opinions, that's what I have going, and I find it quite enjoyable.

Let me know your thoughts, I think I've got a good thing going. Again, extremely attractive, young (I'm 60), and quite enjoyable, fun to be with, experienced to the degree I'm not her first arrangement. Finding a diamond in the rough on seeking like this is not easy, granted. I've looked long and hard. So when one comes along, and this isn't my first rodeo, you've got to take full advantage. Again, there is some trust involved, I get that. I've seen overnight rates on EROS and other escorts sites, I'm sure you have also. Even this is better than that, I believe. Thanks
 

Shibsaeggi

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So, I'll pose a new question. What is it worth?

Most Mongers are 50 and older, just a guess. We all know the typical 60 house fee + tip, let's say you walk out of an AMP for $160 to $200, typically for an hour. Some speak English better than others, typically there can be a language barrier. Is there passion? Perhaps. DATY, I'll leave that up to you to decide. BBBJ? At some places, but not that common.

On Seeking, you meet a 21 to 23 year old, slim, attending college, attractive, dresses well, all of that. She comes over to your place, in this case, you live alone obviously. You know her full name, First and last, and you've verified it through social media, her phone number is real, hell, you've even seen her drivers license. So each of you know each others identity. It's a mutual no strings attached, once a week arrangement. She shows up at a prearranged time, let's sat 5 pm on Tuesday. You embrace and kiss, you make her a martini, glass of wine, whatever. You've prepared some oysters, cheese and crackers, whatever. At about 8 pm, you make dinner, something easy, rice and fish, perhaps through a steak on the grill; hell, even spagetti and balls, just something for dinner. By 9-9:30, you retire to the bedroom. The session involves what you consider to be passion. Lots of kissing, mutual touching, etc. 15 minutes of 69. Then good hard bare back sex. Afterwards, perhaps some TV, small talk, cuddling, etc. At 6-7 am, you start all over again with round 2. Both take showers, you make simple coffee and a quick breakfast, and she is off, you you are off to work, whatever.

What is that overnight worth, obviously much better than an hour at the AMP? Just wanting to hear some opinions, that's what I have going, and I find it quite enjoyable.

Let me know your thoughts, I think I've got a good thing going. Again, extremely attractive, young (I'm 60), and quite enjoyable, fun to be with, experienced to the degree I'm not her first arrangement. Finding a diamond in the rough on seeking like this is not easy, granted. I've looked long and hard. So when one comes along, and this isn't my first rodeo, you've got to take full advantage. Again, there is some trust involved, I get that. I've seen overnight rates on EROS and other escorts sites, I'm sure you have also. Even this is better than that, I believe. Thanks
For me, the sugar daddy experience is better than an hour at an amp.

I’m in my early 40s and live alone so I am flexible. I’m not a very handsome guy either. I’ve met several members here so they’ll agree with me. lol

But as we all know, if you are respectful, kind and financially stable, these girls do not care what you look like as long as you do not look like an Oompa Loompa. lol.

You’re right—finding a diamond in the rough is not easy. But once you do, it’s well worth it.

I sometimes enjoy the chase. I do not mind the time and money put into it.

I strike out very often as well but I learn from each experience so it’s well worth it.

For example, with amp providers, I’ll meet them when they have their vacation. No emotions attached. I’ll take them out to a nice steak or sushi dinner in Manhattan (around $300). Sometimes they want to eat at the World Mall or a nearby Korean BBQ or Chinese restaurant in Flushing. For an all-nighter, I’ll give them $500. Not one amp provider has complained about the amount. Many of them have refused payment but I will respectfully tell them that it’s a token of my appreciation.

Some of these providers, I’ll also take them out shopping to the Woodbury outlet and get them a gift under $1,000 such as a Coach handbag or a Burberry shirt or pants. Not a single girl demanded an extreme gift such as a $5,000 Gucci handbag. All of them have been reasonable which I appreciate.

If I’m very comfortable with them, I will bring them to my home for the night.

Several of them have asked me to be their boyfriend but I will respectfully decline it. Some get upset but they call me back to meet up again. lol.

The sex is always great with them. They’ll do things to me that we do not do at an amp. I’m sure all of you know what I mean.

On their birthday or Chinese New Year’s, I’ll give them $1,000 as an extra gift.

But again, there is no emotions attached. They know that I meet other girls and I do not care what they do while they are not with me.

As for the girls from the clubs or private parties, it’s a bit different in my experience. I’ll take them out to dinner to a steakhouse or sushi restaurant in the city ($300).

The first time I spend the night with them, I’ll stay at a hotel in the city. I’ll give them $1,000 for the night. They appreciate it. Many of them are students at NYU. I’ll check their Instagram and LinkedIn to make sure.

I’ll take them shopping in Soho as well. Again, nothing over $1,000.

Most of these girls live with a roommmate so I’ll bring them to my place only if I’m very comfortable with them.

They see where I live, the clothes I wear and the cars that I drive so the good and smart girls will be reasonable and maintain this friends with benefit relationship.

The stupid ones will then immediately ask for help with rent, tuition or ask me to buy them a $20,000 Hermès hang bag. lol. These are the ones I’ll discontinue the friends with benefit relationship.

The sex is great with these girls as well. I’ll give career advice and help them get a job as well.

These girls are in their early to late 20s and most of them are college students who are attending a private university in Manhattan.

Some of these girls will say, “XYZ just paid my tuition for this semester.” My response is, “Good for you. I had to take out a student loan.” lol. They get upset at me but again, they’ll call me again in a few weeks. lol.

On their birthday and Christmas (for those who celebrate it), I’ll give them $1,000 as an extra gift.

No emotion with them either. They know that I meet other girls and I do not care what they do while they are not with me.
 

AutomaticSlim

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For me, the sugar daddy experience is better than an hour at an amp.

I’m in my early 40s and live alone so I am flexible. I’m not a very handsome guy either. I’ve met several members here so they’ll agree with me. lol

But as we all know, if you are respectful, kind and financially stable, these girls do not care what you look like as long as you do not look like an Oompa Loompa. lol.

You’re right—finding a diamond in the rough is not easy. But once you do, it’s well worth it.

I sometimes enjoy the chase. I do not mind the time and money put into it.

I strike out very often as well but I learn from each experience so it’s well worth it.

For example, with amp providers, I’ll meet them when they have their vacation. No emotions attached. I’ll take them out to a nice steak or sushi dinner in Manhattan (around $300). Sometimes they want to eat at the World Mall or a nearby Korean BBQ or Chinese restaurant in Flushing. For an all-nighter, I’ll give them $500. Not one amp provider has complained about the amount. Many of them have refused payment but I will respectfully tell them that it’s a token of my appreciation.

Some of these providers, I’ll also take them out shopping to the Woodbury outlet and get them a gift under $1,000 such as a Coach handbag or a Burberry shirt or pants. Not a single girl demanded an extreme gift such as a $5,000 Gucci handbag. All of them have been reasonable which I appreciate.

If I’m very comfortable with them, I will bring them to my home for the night.

Several of them have asked me to be their boyfriend but I will respectfully decline it. Some get upset but they call me back to meet up again. lol.

The sex is always great with them. They’ll do things to me that we do not do at an amp. I’m sure all of you know what I mean.

On their birthday or Chinese New Year’s, I’ll give them $1,000 as an extra gift.

But again, there is no emotions attached. They know that I meet other girls and I do not care what they do while they are not with me.

As for the girls from the clubs or private parties, it’s a bit different in my experience. I’ll take them out to dinner to a steakhouse or sushi restaurant in the city ($300).

The first time I spend the night with them, I’ll stay at a hotel in the city. I’ll give them $1,000 for the night. They appreciate it. Many of them are students at NYU. I’ll check their Instagram and LinkedIn to make sure.

I’ll take them shopping in Soho as well. Again, nothing over $1,000.

Most of these girls live with a roommmate so I’ll bring them to my place only if I’m very comfortable with them.

They see where I live, the clothes I wear and the cars that I drive so the good and smart girls will be reasonable and maintain this friends with benefit relationship.

The stupid ones will then immediately ask for help with rent, tuition or ask me to buy them a $20,000 Hermès hang bag. lol. These are the ones I’ll discontinue the friends with benefit relationship.

The sex is great with these girls as well. I’ll give career advice and help them get a job as well.

These girls are in their early to late 20s and most of them are college students who are attending a private university in Manhattan.

Some of these girls will say, “XYZ just paid my tuition for this semester.” My response is, “Good for you. I had to take out a student loan.” lol. They get upset at me but again, they’ll call me again in a few weeks. lol.

On their birthday and Christmas (for those who celebrate it), I’ll give them $1,000 as an extra gift.

No emotion with them either. They know that I meet other girls and I do not care what they do while they are not with me.


"But as we all know, if you are respectful, kind and financially stable, these girls do not care what you look like as long as you do not look like an Oompa Loompa. lol. "


- This is not true. I tried S/A twice as a paying member, and had awful results. I am 6'1", 175 lbs or so, and exercise regularly. The only girls who PM's me are the ones I find unattractive. I PM'd the very pretty ones regularly but get almost responses. I am certain the issue is that I do not have a face like Brad Pitt or George Clooney, with the strong jawline and chiseled features. These girls on SA think that life is like a movie, like 50 shades of gray or something. That they will meet a "super hot guy" willing to pay them. It was a small waste of money and a big waste of time and effort. AMPs and Agencies SO MUCH better.

These girls that come home and spend the night with you for $500/$1000....what do they look like?
Do they look like this:

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Or this:

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I can get girls in that range of looks from agencies.
The ones who pinged me on SA looked nowhere as good as the above.
To hell with SA.
 

didi88

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The SB experience is different for everyone. For a single guy with plenty of cash, who’s not interested in a real GF, it’s a reasonable alternative. OTOH, if you have a SO, it’s a whole different ballgame. There usually won’t be an opportunity to have the kind of experiences these guys are describing, so it’s best to just approach it like an alternative to AMPs. I see them for a few hours at a hotel or at their place, give them a fixed amount each time, and just enjoy the time. Very rarely, if I like one of them, I might take her to dinner in a neighborhood (well away from where I live). I usually get tired of them after a few times, so I’m always looking for new talent. For me, the biggest advantages to seeing a SB are that there’s no one hour time limit and that she hasn’t been with multiple guys the same day
 

Shibsaeggi

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"But as we all know, if you are respectful, kind and financially stable, these girls do not care what you look like as long as you do not look like an Oompa Loompa. lol. "


- This is not true. I tried S/A twice as a paying member, and had awful results. I am 6'1", 175 lbs or so, and exercise regularly. The only girls who PM's me are the ones I find unattractive. I PM'd the very pretty ones regularly but get almost responses. I am certain the issue is that I do not have a face like Brad Pitt or George Clooney, with the strong jawline and chiseled features. These girls on SA think that life is like a movie, like 50 shades of gray or something. That they will meet a "super hot guy" willing to pay them. It was a small waste of money and a big waste of time and effort. AMPs and Agencies SO MUCH better.

These girls that come home and spend the night with you for $500/$1000....what do they look like?
Do they look like this:

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Or this:

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I can get girls in that range of looks from agencies.
The ones who pinged me on SA looked nowhere as good as the above.
To hell with SA.
The amp girls I meet look better than the first pic.

As for the second pic, she would be considered a top notch girl.
 

Srhsrh

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So, I'll pose a new question. What is it worth?

Most Mongers are 50 and older, just a guess. We all know the typical 60 house fee + tip, let's say you walk out of an AMP for $160 to $200, typically for an hour. Some speak English better than others, typically there can be a language barrier. Is there passion? Perhaps. DATY, I'll leave that up to you to decide. BBBJ? At some places, but not that common.

On Seeking, you meet a 21 to 23 year old, slim, attending college, attractive, dresses well, all of that. She comes over to your place, in this case, you live alone obviously. You know her full name, First and last, and you've verified it through social media, her phone number is real, hell, you've even seen her drivers license. So each of you know each others identity. It's a mutual no strings attached, once a week arrangement. She shows up at a prearranged time, let's sat 5 pm on Tuesday. You embrace and kiss, you make her a martini, glass of wine, whatever. You've prepared some oysters, cheese and crackers, whatever. At about 8 pm, you make dinner, something easy, rice and fish, perhaps through a steak on the grill; hell, even spagetti and balls, just something for dinner. By 9-9:30, you retire to the bedroom. The session involves what you consider to be passion. Lots of kissing, mutual touching, etc. 15 minutes of 69. Then good hard bare back sex. Afterwards, perhaps some TV, small talk, cuddling, etc. At 6-7 am, you start all over again with round 2. Both take showers, you make simple coffee and a quick breakfast, and she is off, you you are off to work, whatever.

What is that overnight worth, obviously much better than an hour at the AMP? Just wanting to hear some opinions, that's what I have going, and I find it quite enjoyable.

Let me know your thoughts, I think I've got a good thing going. Again, extremely attractive, young (I'm 60), and quite enjoyable, fun to be with, experienced to the degree I'm not her first arrangement. Finding a diamond in the rough on seeking like this is not easy, granted. I've looked long and hard. So when one comes along, and this isn't my first rodeo, you've got to take full advantage. Again, there is some trust involved, I get that. I've seen overnight rates on EROS and other escorts sites, I'm sure you have also. Even this is better than that, I believe. Thanks
I’ve never done any of these seeking arrangements sites. I’m not criticizing those who do it or saying what I do is better. It just seemed to me like it was always going to end up being more money for less action. I do overnights all the time though with escorts and spa girls. I’ve paid as little as 200 (spa girl just charging what she would for an hour in the shop), and as much as 3500 (a special case in Singapore as a reward to myself, and it was worth it). My average overnight is probably around 600, for an average looking late 20s spa girl. I don’t know how that compares to SA. For that I get dinner, drinks, a nice massage, and unlimited sex.

Well, limited to how many times I can do it. But it is a nicer experience than a spa, taking time.
 

AutomaticSlim

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The amp girls I meet look better than the first pic.

As for the second pic, she would be considered a top notch girl.

They are both porn actresses.
The first one seems really cute to me. Maybe the screen shot I took was not so good.
Here is a link: https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5a522ef99a7f1

The second one is Alex Grey. I saw her in Mahattan last August. Session was the highest I ever paid for 1 hour. Probably would not do it again.
She has changed very much from that picture. She is now covered in Tats, has a bull ring in her nose, and had facial surgery that makes her look much older.
Basically she went to 10/10 Girl Next door look to tattooed porno girl look. I don't understand why she did that.
 

AutomaticSlim

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Have you tried other ways besides SA? There are also private parties and clubs such as PHD and Tao to go to and meet them.
Is TAO in the meatpacking district? I googled it and it looked very familiar.
I believe I was there back in 2017 with a former regular.
I recognize the large dining area.
What I remember most about that place was that 2 vodka/sodas cost me $72.
 

Shibsaeggi

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They are both porn actresses.
The first one seems really cute to me. Maybe the screen shot I took was not so good.
Here is a link: https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5a522ef99a7f1

The second one is Alex Grey. I saw her in Mahattan last August. Session was the highest I ever paid for 1 hour. Probably would not do it again.
She has changed very much from that picture. She is now covered in Tats, has a bull ring in her nose, and had facial surgery that makes her look much older.
Basically she went to 10/10 Girl Next door look to tattooed porno girl look. I don't understand why she did that.
The link is better and she is cute. :)

I don’t understand why Alex would do that either.
 

didi88

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I’ve never done any of these seeking arrangements sites. I’m not criticizing those who do it or saying what I do is better. It just seemed to me like it was always going to end up being more money for less action. I do overnights all the time though with escorts and spa girls. I’ve paid as little as 200 (spa girl just charging what she would for an hour in the shop), and as much as 3500 (a special case in Singapore as a reward to myself, and it was worth it). My average overnight is probably around 600, for an average looking late 20s spa girl. I don’t know how that compares to SA. For that I get dinner, drinks, a nice massage, and unlimited sex.

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This is similar to what you might get from a SB, both in price and sexual experience. But for me, the key difference is that the SB hasn’t been servicing multiple guys every day. If I’m going to pay that kind of money, I want someone who’s a little “fresher”
 

Shibsaeggi

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Is TAO in the meatpacking district? I googled it and it looked very familiar.
I believe I was there back in 2017 with a former regular.
I recognize the large dining area.
What I remember most about that place was that 2 vodka/sodas cost me $72.
Yes it’s in the lower Manhattan area.

Many do come here to meet a sugar daddy. I usually go with one or two friends and chat with two or three girls. There is always one cock blocker among them. But I’ll exchange numbers with that girl who I like and meet her within a week. They are either students or don’t have a stable job so they’ll make time for us right away. lol.

My most success is when I talk to a girl who stepped out to grab a quick smoke before going back inside. I’m a casual smoker so we’ll
both smoke a cigarette and chit chat. Of course, it’s been a hit or miss for me.
 

AutomaticSlim

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Yes it’s in the lower Manhattan area.

Many do come here to meet a sugar daddy. I usually go with one or two friends and chat with two or three girls. There is always one cock blocker among them. But I’ll exchange numbers with that girl who I like and meet her within a week. They are either students or don’t have a stable job so they’ll make time for us right away. lol.

My most success is when I talk to a girl who stepped out to grab a quick smoke before going back inside. I’m a casual smoker so we’ll
both smoke a cigarette and chit chat. Of course, it’s been a hit or miss for me.
Good info. Thanks.
I did not know that girls at TAO were looking for SDs.
I'll have to try it -- just for the "hell" of it.
Thanks again.
 

threeforthemoney

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They are both porn actresses.
The first one seems really cute to me. Maybe the screen shot I took was not so good.
Here is a link: https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5a522ef99a7f1

The second one is Alex Grey. I saw her in Mahattan last August. Session was the highest I ever paid for 1 hour. Probably would not do it again.
She has changed very much from that picture. She is now covered in Tats, has a bull ring in her nose, and had facial surgery that makes her look much older.
Basically she went to 10/10 Girl Next door look to tattooed porno girl look. I don't understand why she did that.
I'm fussy, no tatts, and slim. Boob size does not matter, but bigger is obviously better. When they are 105 to 115 pounds, they just don't have much upstairs, but sucking what they do have is fantastic.
 
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