Review: SL Allyssa's incredible insights.

temuchin · Jul 19, 2023

Ughh. This is worse than an AMP girl asking to settle financials upfront, which I am okay with if I were a complete stranger, but if I were a regular, then I would make a mental note of the transaction. Once, I forgot to pay AL Yoyo and two days later, she still didn't text to notify me. When I suddenly remembered, I went back to pay her and she still didn't say anything. So I always remembered that about her and I gave her my business until she left for the west coast and Allyssa became my ATF. So even a WG knew better than to make it too much of a transaction.

Redrain · Jul 19, 2023

Imaseoulman said:

I really don't mean this as an insult or judgment in anyway, but it doesn't really sound like you blame the body positivity movement for your hobbying.

It sounds more like you blame your wife for your hobbying. I mean you cheating on her with providers doesn't have any effect on the body positivity movement, but it has everything to do with lying to her and breaking your vows to her.

I mean the body positivity movement wouldn't care if it "found out" about your hobbying, but if your wife found out she would be devastated and it would hurt your marriage in a way that it would probably never fully recover from.

I know that it's taboo for us to ever talk about the fact that married mongers are definitely cheating on their wives and that if their spouses ever find out it would probably be the biggest betrayal and heartbreak they ever felt.

There's a reason why married hobbiests lie to their spouses.

"Sparing her feelings" is just a nice way of saying "I know that if she ever found out it would hurt her more than anything else I or probably anyone else has ever done to her. But I want to keep doing this so her pain is a risk I am willing to take."

But owning up to our choices means recognizing the effects that those choses have on the people we love.

"My wife's pain is a risk I'm willing to take."

If you're married, hobbying and lying to your wife about it, this is the reality of the choice you are already making and will continue to make so long as you keep hobbying.

Married hobbiests have to lie to their spouses.

At least be honest yourself right?

Zippy17 · Jul 19, 2023

SincerelyWF said:

And that's attributable to the fact that we continue subsidizing corn production, even though something like 90% of farming is now done by mega-corporations and not the farm families that those subsidies were originally intended to help stay afloat through the Depression Era. As a result, food manufacturers have used all that excess corn to put HFCS in just about everything on the shelf at the supermarket.

BrettKavanaugh said:

No shit! Next time you watch any 1960s TV show, pick out any person who looks at least 65 and Google them. You'll be absolutely fucking shocked when you see that they're like 42. For example, Lost In Space's Dr. Smith (Jonathan Harris) was only 51 when that series debuted. Twighlight Zone is great for that, but just check this shit out: This is Beryl Mercer, who played Tom Powers's mother in Public Enemy (1931). She was born in 1882, making her 49 in this clip. I rest my case.

Public Enemy (1931) Final Scene

twotimesone · Jul 19, 2023

Imaseoulman said:

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion...ollective-megan-rapinoe-priyanka-chopra-jonas

2 years ago Victoria Secret went woke and decided to ditch its Angels models and hired woke feminists Megan Rapinoe and Priyanka Chopa Jonas as their spokespersons. You can guess what comes next.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/social-justice-lingerie

Stock went down 32%, Victoria secret stores closed. Their CEO's come and go. Who would've knew? Lol.

temuchin · Jul 20, 2023

twotimesone said:

Ugh... Dudes have their own beauty pageants. Mr. Universe. I'm not gay but let's agree that Arnold in his prime was really something. Why would they do this to women's beauty with... These are the moments I am glad to be a monger.

twotimesone · Jul 20, 2023

temuchin said:

You never hear men complaining about women going to Chippendales. Meanwhile the review embargo went away for the new Barbie movie and people are already saying that this is really bad woke feminist movie and a fight against Patriarchy. Earlier in this post I posted a quote from another movie about "women is always right" a little more than 10 years ago but this garbage of a movie takes a whole new level.

Redrain · Jul 20, 2023

twotimesone said:

Your first post was literally to complain that most women only want the 10% of men who are "tall rich and handsome".

How is that different from men complaining about women going to Chippendale?

Also, I don't really see how your opportunity to see naked sexy women has in any way decreased. If fact there are more opportunities for you to see naked women then ever before!

There are thousands of perfectly legal stop clubs, way more than when your father or grand father were you age!

And so what if Sports Illustrated has plus sized models or the Miss America contest removed the swimsuit competition.

Internet porn is pretty much free, readily available and comes in every possible flavor!

Seriously, when was the last time you watched the Miss America pageant or actually bought an SI Swimsuit issue?
I'm betting you didn't do either of these things, even when there was a swimsuit competition and no plus sized models.

But I'll bet you check Pornhub on the regular! Lol

With all the Internet porn and numerous strip clubs, complaining that beauty contests don't have bikini competitions anymore is like complaining that some restaurant you haven't been to in years dropped your favorite appetizer from the menu while you just happen to be standing at a free all you can eat buffett!

In terms of sex and nudity, we have more options today than or fathers or our grandfathers ever did!

I am not rich and no more handsome than the next guy

But I can literally turn on my computer and see sexy naked women whenever I want

And if I go to a bar and chat up a pretty woman who likes me, I have a much better chance waking up in her bed without having to marry her than my dad ever did!

And from what I've seen, this is the way it is for most single straight men these days. At least the guys I know.

So the idea that "wokeness" has somehow reduced our opportunities to see sexy women or have good consensual sex just doesn't make sense!

massiveloads · Jul 20, 2023

Like all of you my fetish for Asians specifically East Asians leads me to going to these places in addition to the type of women I date. Media has portrayed East Asian women as the sexiest, which is way men of all races find them the most attractive or at least want to try "tight asian pussy" at least once.

Kind of different of the soy boy fem boy way Asian men are treated. We all see them as inferior whether its looks or thinking about how much bigger our cocks are than theirs.

Like all of you when I am in a session In my own deluded reality I am the best looking, or smartest, or most entertaining conversationalist, or most financially abundant. I look down on anyone lacking in any of those departments and I make up stories about how the guys better than me are still somehow insufficient in other ways.

I won't get much into my personal life but my sense of self-worth increases when I feel that providers give me insider information about others, themselves, or business practices. I am the man.

I'm glad that I can find a community of like-minded individuals that share in this instantly gratifying hobby that reaffirmations my beliefs that I am superior to these docile submissive subservient Asian women, created for the sole purpose of making me cum when I don't feel like cranking one out (that's for losers.) and I feel awesome that I cucked many Asian soyboys even the ones that they find attractive.

Press on my brothers and let's all march forward in this journey we term hobbying since it sugar coats the fact that we pay women that we don't have a chance with in real life for sex.

BrettKavanaugh · Jul 20, 2023

Redrain said:

Dude. You, my friend, are secretly a Chad. Banging the Stacys left and right. I bow to your superior ways.

PS - I find pornhub a bit obsolete too these days. I prefer instead how spankbang has the helpful little fellating olympics-style icons so I can get to exactly where I need to go - thus saving me 5 seconds of scrolling. pornhub is just too woke the way they refuse to "dehumanize" the actors and reduce them to those icons. They really want me to listen to the introductory "interview" with these jav stars? Seriously? Like I care what these bitches have to say? Like I want to hear their "opinions?" And did you know that pornhub now has an lgbtq category? and something called "Popular with Women". Fucking Feminazis. And don't get me started on bbw porn......b as in "beautiful"? Brother, please. Gentleman, let us all unite and resolve to never click on a bbw porn video, so we can stop sending any woke market signals and once and for all get our wives and girlfriends to finally lose those 20 fucking pounds.

BrettKavanaugh · Jul 20, 2023

PPS. Congratulations to @temuchin! And more importantly, congratulations to Alyssa, who does not need to lose 20 fucking pounds. (I'd even suggest she gain 5 and fill out her cute soft little boobs a bit more.

Congratulations because this review is now THE NUMBER ONE LIKED REVIEW IN THE HISTORY OF MANHATTAN WHOREDOM (or at least on this here website). Frankly, Alyssa is a much more worthy recipient than that BG Ayala girl that hardly anyone here remembers at this point. Vicky is now 3rd. I can accept Vicky being up there.

twotimesone · Jul 20, 2023

Redrain said:

I said "You never hear men complaining about women going to Chippendales." Seriously, how many times you make up BS straw man's arguments? I'm not going to bother to you to debate the nonsenical garbage about pornhub except that when I had the best sex with my then GF at least every other day, I didn't even need to look at porn.

Redrain · Jul 20, 2023

BrettKavanaugh said:

"Chad" is pretty much incel for "any guy who seems happier than me".

So long as they don't actively try to hurt other people, I feel sorry for incels. There is definitely something emotionally or mentally off balance about them, but the don't feel good enough about themselves to accept that they need help without feeling even worse about themselves.

So unable to recognize that they need help without feeling even worse about themselves, they decide to blame pretty much everyone who seems happier than them.

Because anger feels better than depression.

The world isn't filled with Chads and Staceys.

Incels just have emotional and mental issues same as a whole lot of other people, myself included.

Most of the these issues probably aren't even that severe. They're just bad enough to keep them lonely and unhappy.

If your an incel or believe that the world is filled with Chads and Staceys and that all the women you could ever be attracted to will only go after a 10% group of men that will never include you, then that's a sign that you probably have a mental issue

And having a mental issue doesn't make you pathetic or worthless anymore than having a broken toe or bloody cut.

You just need to go to a professional to get a cast and some stitches.

Otherwise, no matter how angry you get or how right you feel, you're never going to get any better than you are right now and very likely going to get worse.

And frankly, I want everyone on this page to be mentally healthy.

How else am I going to trust your provider reviews! Lol

Redrain · Jul 20, 2023

twotimesone said:

Ok, then I'll stop trying to politely explain this to you and just tell you the blunt truth.

Wokeness and feminism have not hurt you in any way.

You still have near limitless options to view naked beautiful women with bodies just the way you like them both live and virtually despite the fact that some women with bodies you aren't attracted to are getting pictorials in magazines that you haven't read for years.

There are more women than ever who are willing to have good sex with men sooner than ever without feeling overly angry at themselves or men for not wanting to commit.

There are also more women who want commitment with men with the understanding that commitment does not mean that they will not have to carry their own weight and that it is unhealthy for them to rely on you solely for their happiness or financial security. Basically, more women understand that it isn't fair to expect men to take care of their every need and are willing to learn the skills necessary to take care of themselves thereby taking a lot of the emotional and financial load off of us!

The trade off of them taking better care of themselves is that they expect us to take better care of ourselves! Which honestly, what the hell is wrong with that?

By taking better care of themselves the women I am with are less of a burden to me, so I in turn should take care of myself to be less of a burden to her.

And the less time we spend being burdens to each other the more time we spend having a good time with each other!

Sounds like a win win to me!

So there are more options than ever before to view women with the exact body types you find attractive.

There are more women willing to have sex with men without expecting commitment than ever before.

There are more women willing to do more things in bed with the men they want to be with without making a big deal about it than ever before.

And when it comes to relationships, there are more women willing to carry their emotional and financial weight while not expecting you to be their sole source of happiness or financial security than ever before.

And the sole cost of all this good stuff is that more women are expecting that men do more to take care of ourselves and make ourselves better than we already are, which honestly, isn't that the point of getting up in the morning!

To end the day just a little better than you were the day before?

All this great stuff and in exchange all that is being asked of me is that I do something I was already expected to do from the day I was born!

So you have nothing to complain about when it comes to feminism.

In fact you should be thankful that feminism had spent the last 80 years pretty much laying out a feast of sex for you that your grandpa never had while at the same time reducing the co-dependance, social stigma and social pressure towards commitment that he faced every time he liked a girl enough to want to be in a relationship with her or just wanted to get his rocks off with some peach that caught his eye.

Feminism has made my life and the lives of a whole lot of men more emotionally and sexually fulfilling than our forefathers could ever dream!

If you can't feel this than something else is wrong, but stop trying to ruin the party for the rest of us!

AutomaticSlim · Jul 20, 2023

Incredibly, I was able to skim through all this crappola just now and I only have 2 questions.
1) What does any of this ridiculous drivel have to do with Allyssa? (except the handful of posts about Allyssa)
2) Did Scottie do "The Worm" for Allyssa yet?

Imaseoulman · Jul 20, 2023

To appropriate the tools of the woke, this thread appears to have degenerated to some mongers “mongersplaining” to each other, and in doing talking past other and not really communicating…

Blixen · Jul 20, 2023

Redrain said:

"Chad" is pretty much incel for "any guy who seems happier than me".

So long as they don't actively try to hurt other people, I feel sorry for incels. There is definitely something emotionally or mentally off balance about them, but the don't feel good enough about themselves to accept that they need help without feeling even worse about themselves.

So unable to recognize that they need help without feeling even worse about themselves, they decide to blame pretty much everyone who seems happier than them.

Because anger feels better than depression.

The world isn't filled with Chads and Staceys.

Incels just have emotional and mental issues same as a whole lot of other people, myself included.

Most of the these issues probably aren't even that severe. They're just bad enough to keep them lonely and unhappy.

If your an incel or believe that the world is filled with Chads and Staceys and that all the women you could ever be attracted to will only go after a 10% group of men that will never include you, then that's a sign that you probably have a mental issue

And having a mental issue doesn't make you pathetic or worthless anymore than having a broken toe or bloody cut.

You just need to go to a professional to get a cast and some stitches.

Otherwise, no matter how angry you get or how right you feel, you're never going to get any better than you are right now and very likely going to get worse.

And frankly, I want everyone on this page to be mentally healthy.

How else am I going to trust your provider reviews! Lol

I think there was a strong dose of irony in the Justice’s opinion.

Blixen · Jul 20, 2023

twotimesone said:

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion...ollective-megan-rapinoe-priyanka-chopra-jonas

2 years ago Victoria Secret went woke and decided to ditch its Angels models and hired woke feminists Megan Rapinoe and Priyanka Chopa Jonas as their spokespersons. You can guess what comes next.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/social-justice-lingerie

Stock went down 32%, Victoria secret stores closed. Their CEO's come and go. Who would've knew? Lol.

Blixen · Jul 20, 2023

BrettKavanaugh said:

43 frickin likes… damn.
Not sure what your Sopranos-inflected chef d’oeuvre garnered, but if you weren’t forced to slice it into chapters, you’d concentrate the love more…

Black_equus · Jul 20, 2023

Imaseoulman said:

Of course all is us need to own our own decisions and not attribute them to some determined causes (Schopenhauer be damned!). A lot of what guys wrote above tries to remove such responsibility entirely, and I respectfully disagree with such abdication.

I posted my comment above to illicit responses as to mongers’ motives and see if any other mongers shared a similar situation. The responses have been interesting; certainly varied. We do seem to monger for slightly different reasons. To paraphrase Tolstoy: every faithful male is happy in the same way; every monger is unhappy in his own unique way!

I was trying to make a very subtle point, based on lived experience: that the part of extreme feminism that embraces “body positivity” as an antidote to “male constructed image of femininity” can trigger some really perverse (no pun intended) situations. This may be a factor that puts a guy over the edge when making a decision to monger or not.

My wife is still attractive relative to the average women her age, but has increased her weight by 20% since we got married 20+ years ago. Much of this has been during covid and she has not put it off. She’s barely trying…

The sex has been difficult for me lately; the last few years it’s just become a duty and feels like mercy sex. I really can’t get hard to a big flabby belly anymore… (despite still retaining a strong sex drive). Sure, I’m overly fixated on physical appearance, but it is what it is. I can’t change what I am and am not sexually attracted to. Personally, I work hard to stay fit and trim. I acknowledge it should be a two way street; Males should not get a free pass in this regard

I’ve actually been faithful the whole 20+ years, until recently. Of course, I’ve been tempted in the past, but was always able to resist b/c I knew I could get satisfying sex at home. I got into mongering this past year, when the sexual frustration just started driving me nuts. So, I pulled the trigger and made the decision to get some relief. (I know it sounds crazy, but doing so may have saved my marriage, at least temporarily (say, compared to starting a full on affair with another woman)).

Decisions are delicate things. Sometimes there are dozens of factors pushing one way and dozens the other, like a tennis all bouncing straight up off the net until it decides to fall on side or the other.

I know I cannot just ask my wife to “lose 20”. It would be a disaster… I’ve tried subtle ways of communicating this message, so as to not hurt her feelings, including appealing to health, setting an example, etc. To no avail. She feels empowered to stay where she is, insinuating that I’m too hung up on silly and unrealistic outdated ideals.

So there it is - when it comes to physicality and sex, I'm stuck in this structural standstill. Of course, it’s my choice as to settle for unsatisfying sex or to try to fill the void elsewhere. But i do blame the body positivity nonsense for creating this particular dilemma in this particular case.

The worst part is that there seems to be no way out. Until it’s ok to challenge the unappealing body and take actions to actually do something to get fit again, the dilemma will persist…

And hence another statistic to fuel the demand curve for AMPs

I'm guessing this dilemma predates feminism by millenia.

This is just a hunch so any substantive argument showing more than a casual between feminism and the decline of sexual attraction between partners would be fun

Also, worth noting that feminism increased the amount of sex and sex partners women were having.

A component of feminism was the idea that women were liberated from constraints of patriarchal puritanism.

Lots more frees love got dispensed once feminism opened the gate.

Shit, I'm grateful AF for feminists giving women permission to enjoy and embrace sex as a form of self realization.

Black_equus · Jul 20, 2023

twotimesone said:

Jesus dude, you are in a loveless marriage. Pray she doesn't take you for every red cent in the divorce and move on. The resentment will kill you faster than anything.

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