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I need to vent about women

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Yeah the 36% is the amount that women like and get matches with. So if they like 100 profiles; 36 guys like them back. For a guy who likes 100 profiles; he gets 1-2 matches. Those are about my odds,

It’s a waste of time for men. In summary.

And yea; mark Kennedy it is a societal thing. As you said dynamics have drastically changed.
 

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I skimmed this long thread. Wow, some people have a strange view about women and what they want.

In the late 2000's and early 2010's, I studied a varied group of pick up artists. David DeAngelo I thought was the very best or he aligned with my values. Too many guys were con men trying just to get laid with one night stands.

David described his main concept as "Attraction isn't a choice" where if you know how to spark "Attraction" inside of a women she can't help but feel attracted to you. He described a single woman, talking to her co-workers on Monday morning about her date over the weekend. If she describes the date like, wow he was really good looking but he opened his mouth and ruined everything. All the women know what that means, with comments about what a waste. But is she describes the date, as he really wasn't my type, he was too short, but I couldn't stop laughing and I had some much fun with him, he made me feel like the only lady but he was no push over and flirted so well. I kind of hope he calls me back. The ladies will all tell her, Oh you really like him.

The other core concept was no guy will every spark Attraction, if he doesn't challenge the women. You have to get her to chase you. Show that you're not like every other lame guy willing to kiss her ass and chase her around. She will never value you. Once you give her your power she will never give it back to you. You have to be the man. Not a cave man. There is a balance between being a jerk and doing this correctly. The key is to mix in comedy with some cockiness. Don't do it all the time or she'll think you're a goofball but mix it in.

I remember going out with a buddy to a club shortly after I got David's book. It was one of the 1st really nice warm spring nights and this place was packed with hot girls and then 1 super hot babe came in. I watched the entire crowd. Every girl in the place noticed her and it seemed like every guy was looking at her. A true alpha female. She started dancing with her girl friends (about 6 of them). Yes, hot gals don't travel alone so you have to learn to deal with the GF's. I was telling my buddy about this book, He said, how should you pick her up? I said I didn't get that far but I said you have to demonstrate high value 1st. He said how do you do that?

I said it is too loud to talk in here. I told him help me I will completely ignore her because everyone else is looking at her. So we played a game and I kept my back to her. I had my friend tell me if she moved so I could keep my back to her. Before you know it, she worked her way over to where I was, and she kept dancing and kind of crashing into my back, as to say "don't you see me?" Why aren't you looking at me? It freaked me out. I was the only guy in the entire club offering her a challenge. I don't think she was doing it on a conscious level.

She knew she had all the other guys in the palm of her hands. I was maybe the oldest guy in that place that night. It freaked me out but I knew at once this guy David knew what he was talking about. True power isn't the best looking guys but the guys who understand the real power game. It goes against the traditional teaching you were raised with. Your Mommy doesn't teach you how to make the all the other little girls panties wet.
 

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I skimmed this long thread. Wow, some people have a strange view about women and what they want.

In the late 2000's and early 2010's, I studied a varied group of pick up artists. David DeAngelo I thought was the very best or he aligned with my values. Too many guys were con men trying just to get laid with one night stands.

David described his main concept as "Attraction isn't a choice" where if you know how to spark "Attraction" inside of a women she can't help but feel attracted to you. He described a single woman, talking to her co-workers on Monday morning about her date over the weekend. If she describes the date like, wow he was really good looking but he opened his mouth and ruined everything. All the women know what that means, with comments about what a waste. But is she describes the date, as he really wasn't my type, he was too short, but I couldn't stop laughing and I had some much fun with him, he made me feel like the only lady but he was no push over and flirted so well. I kind of hope he calls me back. The ladies will all tell her, Oh you really like him.

The other core concept was no guy will every spark Attraction, if he doesn't challenge the women. You have to get her to chase you. Show that you're not like every other lame guy willing to kiss her ass and chase her around. She will never value you. Once you give her your power she will never give it back to you. You have to be the man. Not a cave man. There is a balance between being a jerk and doing this correctly. The key is to mix in comedy with some cockiness. Don't do it all the time or she'll think you're a goofball but mix it in.

I remember going out with a buddy to a club shortly after I got David's book. It was one of the 1st really nice warm spring nights and this place was packed with hot girls and then 1 super hot babe came in. I watched the entire crowd. Every girl in the place noticed her and it seemed like every guy was looking at her. A true alpha female. She started dancing with her girl friends (about 6 of them). Yes, hot gals don't travel alone so you have to learn to deal with the GF's. I was telling my buddy about this book, He said, how should you pick her up? I said I didn't get that far but I said you have to demonstrate high value 1st. He said how do you do that?

I said it is too loud to talk in here. I told him help me I will completely ignore her because everyone else is looking at her. So we played a game and I kept my back to her. I had my friend tell me if she moved so I could keep my back to her. Before you know it, she worked her way over to where I was, and she kept dancing and kind of crashing into my back, as to say "don't you see me?" Why aren't you looking at me? It freaked me out. I was the only guy in the entire club offering her a challenge. I don't think she was doing it on a conscious level.

She knew she had all the other guys in the palm of her hands. I was maybe the oldest guy in that place that night. It freaked me out but I knew at once this guy David knew what he was talking about. True power isn't the best looking guys but the guys who understand the real power game. It goes against the traditional teaching you were raised with. Your Mommy doesn't teach you how to make the all the other little girls panties wet.
this stuff is so true and I’ve had similar situations happen to me.

The problem with that women is that at some point if you want to get with her- you have to pay attention to her- and the second you pay attention to her- she is no longer interested.

This type of stuff also doesn’t work when the woman is insecure About herself- if you play the hard to get game;she will think she isn’t worthy.
 

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. For most of human history, being an alpha and beating the shit out of people was a highly sought-after skill for men, as this was the only thing separating most humans from being killed on a daily basis (by animals or the feudal lord or a neighbor or "the other") or starving to death twice a day (can't hunt and kill and gut a wild animal, you die!). Today and for a very few generations, not being a ruffian is a thing that produces results, but does not attract females. Some ladies are in love with money, but most women want a dude who matches their genetic code's demands. It might take many generations of evolution to uncode what took 10000 generations to code in.
What you say is true, but the problem is that from about 1750 (the age of industrialization) to the mid 1960s (the beginning of the downfall of western civilization), the intelligent, hardworking, educated gentleman greatly surpassed the "ruffian" in desirability. Why? Because though the role of men evolved to require brains over brawn (which was the natural progression), the role of females stayed as is (and as it should have -- being a good wife & mother is what God intended for them). The societal changes of the 60s introduced artificial means to enable (force?) women to be able to support themselves or have the govt support them. Acts and laws putting guns to the head of corporations in the US and other Western countries forcing them to hire women for useless tasks like HR reps & department PMs doing flowery powerpoints that nobody cares about. Quite useless, but I am certain the grossly bloated governments of western nations love the revenue from all those extra income taxes being paid.
And guess what, if women did not vote, those politicians that love big govt programs and high taxes would never have gotten elected in the first place...
 

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Yeah the 36% is the amount that women like and get matches with. So if they like 100 profiles; 36 guys like them back. For a guy who likes 100 profiles; he gets 1-2 matches. Those are about my odds,

It’s a waste of time for men. In summary.

And yea; mark Kennedy it is a societal thing. As you said dynamics have drastically changed.
SA and Tinder are very time-consuming. It’s fun but not easy at all.
 

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What you say is true, but the problem is that from about 1750 (the age of industrialization) to the mid 1960s (the beginning of the downfall of western civilization), the intelligent, hardworking, educated gentleman greatly surpassed the "ruffian" in desirability. Why? Because though the role of men evolved to require brains over brawn (which was the natural progression), the role of females stayed as is (and as it should have -- being a good wife & mother is what God intended for them). The societal changes of the 60s introduced artificial means to enable (force?) women to be able to support themselves or have the govt support them. Acts and laws putting guns to the head of corporations in the US and other Western countries forcing them to hire women for useless tasks like HR reps & department PMs doing flowery powerpoints that nobody cares about. Quite useless, but I am certain the grossly bloated governments of western nations love the revenue from all those extra income taxes being paid.
And guess what, if women did not vote, those politicians that love big govt programs and high taxes would never have gotten elected in the first place...
In my opinion, women need to stay at home and look after the children, cook and clean. Us men will go out and work, bust our asses and provide for the family.

My younger sister bought her 9-year-old son a new iPhone. Why? And this kid whines more than Ben Simmons and you reward him with a new iPhone. Very good parenting,…,,,not. smh
 

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If you are familiar with the youtube channel, soft white underbelly, you may have seen these, if not, enjoy. They should be required viewing for all guys going through puberty, and should be required viewing once a year every year after. They both are fascinating, but the divorce lawyer’s opinions were the most educational for me.


 

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I skimmed this long thread. Wow, some people have a strange view about women and what they want.

In the late 2000's and early 2010's, I studied a varied group of pick up artists. David DeAngelo I thought was the very best or he aligned with my values. Too many guys were con men trying just to get laid with one night stands.

David described his main concept as "Attraction isn't a choice" where if you know how to spark "Attraction" inside of a women she can't help but feel attracted to you. He described a single woman, talking to her co-workers on Monday morning about her date over the weekend. If she describes the date like, wow he was really good looking but he opened his mouth and ruined everything. All the women know what that means, with comments about what a waste. But is she describes the date, as he really wasn't my type, he was too short, but I couldn't stop laughing and I had some much fun with him, he made me feel like the only lady but he was no push over and flirted so well. I kind of hope he calls me back. The ladies will all tell her, Oh you really like him.

The other core concept was no guy will every spark Attraction, if he doesn't challenge the women. You have to get her to chase you. Show that you're not like every other lame guy willing to kiss her ass and chase her around. She will never value you. Once you give her your power she will never give it back to you. You have to be the man. Not a cave man. There is a balance between being a jerk and doing this correctly. The key is to mix in comedy with some cockiness. Don't do it all the time or she'll think you're a goofball but mix it in.

I remember going out with a buddy to a club shortly after I got David's book. It was one of the 1st really nice warm spring nights and this place was packed with hot girls and then 1 super hot babe came in. I watched the entire crowd. Every girl in the place noticed her and it seemed like every guy was looking at her. A true alpha female. She started dancing with her girl friends (about 6 of them). Yes, hot gals don't travel alone so you have to learn to deal with the GF's. I was telling my buddy about this book, He said, how should you pick her up? I said I didn't get that far but I said you have to demonstrate high value 1st. He said how do you do that?

I said it is too loud to talk in here. I told him help me I will completely ignore her because everyone else is looking at her. So we played a game and I kept my back to her. I had my friend tell me if she moved so I could keep my back to her. Before you know it, she worked her way over to where I was, and she kept dancing and kind of crashing into my back, as to say "don't you see me?" Why aren't you looking at me? It freaked me out. I was the only guy in the entire club offering her a challenge. I don't think she was doing it on a conscious level.

She knew she had all the other guys in the palm of her hands. I was maybe the oldest guy in that place that night. It freaked me out but I knew at once this guy David knew what he was talking about. True power isn't the best looking guys but the guys who understand the real power game. It goes against the traditional teaching you were raised with. Your Mommy doesn't teach you how to make the all the other little girls panties wet.
High level information, good man. Thx for sharing
 

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Was watching my pal's film this morning, and thought of this topic and the gents participating. Enjoy. The important part is the part about people who refuse to talk to each other like grownups, and their only tool for discussing topics, any topic, especially both important ones and taboo ones, is to call people names, make up what the other person said, or create straw men, instead of arguing the topic. If people cannot discuss why something happened or didn't happen, why it is or isn't, why men and women are having trouble mating, we will find out quickly what happens in the universe. People have to discuss things they hate, or they will be doomed to be stuck where they are, until someone's fuze reaches the end.

This is an incredibly important topic for men, men of means and intelligence and who care about the future, I can't say it loudly enough that people have to stop calling each other names and discuss items like grownups. A world of men who are not mating at a rate of 80%, and women who are competing for those 20% of men who are successful, this is one of the two recipes for total and unrestricted war with massive destruction, and most likely a result that no one will ever want.

 

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people have to stop calling each other names and discuss items like grownups.
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You are the guy in the middle. Hope you can take a joke and learn from it. Or not, I don't care either way.

Discussion of current sexual dynamics (or lack thereof) with either men or women requires virtues like reason, humility, teachability, and accountability. Most people are not equipped with these. Depopulation in developed countries is virtually unavoidable now. (Imagine trying to convince to impregnant and raise children with a modern Korean woman.) Combination of global war and natural disasters may be the only way we correct our unchecked addictions for capitalism, materialism, and social media. I am worried for my nephews and nieces but there's not much I can do besides living the best I can.

Thanks, however, for sharing that Youtube piece, it's on my watchlist.
 

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@markkennedy - I've seen some of WhatIfAltHist's videos. Some good stuff, but some crap too. He also talks a little too fast. Although he makes some very good points, I have yet to see any of his predictions come to fruition. His Mouse Utopia video was chilling and had a ring of truth about it. But people are not mice. Not sure if that may make things better or worse.
 

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Was watching my pal's film this morning, and thought of this topic and the gents participating. Enjoy. The important part is the part about people who refuse to talk to each other like grownups, and their only tool for discussing topics, any topic, especially both important ones and taboo ones, is to call people names, make up what the other person said, or create straw men, instead of arguing the topic. If people cannot discuss why something happened or didn't happen, why it is or isn't, why men and women are having trouble mating, we will find out quickly what happens in the universe. People have to discuss things they hate, or they will be doomed to be stuck where they are, until someone's fuze reaches the end.

This is an incredibly important topic for men, men of means and intelligence and who care about the future, I can't say it loudly enough that people have to stop calling each other names and discuss items like grownups. A world of men who are not mating at a rate of 80%, and women who are competing for those 20% of men who are successful, this is one of the two recipes for total and unrestricted war with massive destruction, and most likely a result that no one will ever want.

I do think a reset is coming. But probably not in our lifetimes. The anger just isn’t there yet. Look at this topic, still quite a few who deny reality. Unfortunately it’s going to have to get a lot worse before it gets better.
 

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Remember no one makes you go - you weren’t drafted , it’s not military combat.

A provider once shared with me that all dogs look the same to a cat.

They have no favorites except the second hand on a watch.

Some men prefer the warmth of a hug to banging , albeit a saccharine hug. Even the best gals have that dark soulless , I wish I didn’t have to do this; look in their eyes.

You , I , we, spend what we spend because we are emotionally bankrupt. Somewhere, we have all seen the look in the eyes of The Stranger . The woman we once adored and loved now replaced by a cold blank stare that ends with - I’m sorry I can’t talk I have plans tonight . Or get out this is my place , give me the key and leave. Worse “ he means nothing to me we’re just friend “ except you walked in while she was sucking his way bigger dick .

Whatever it is it’s a deep permanent scar - they kind that remind you every day. But you all knew why you go all along , maybe you just needed a push to remind you.
 

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@markkennedy - I've seen some of WhatIfAltHist's videos. Some good stuff, but some crap too. He also talks a little too fast. Although he makes some very good points, I have yet to see any of his predictions come to fruition. His Mouse Utopia video was chilling and had a ring of truth about it. But people are not mice. Not sure if that may make things better or worse.
Is good thought exercise, we have gotten into it many times, he is a very very good debater! He hates that I'm intentionally obtuse and I hate that he talks too fast when reading from script while being painfully slow IRL. Makes for excellent discussion though.
 

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I do think a reset is coming. But probably not in our lifetimes. The anger just isn’t there yet. Look at this topic, still quite a few who deny reality. Unfortunately it’s going to have to get a lot worse before it gets better.
Is coming for certain, and it smells like it will make the hilarity of 2020 look like a childrens' warmup excercise. Everything has to get worse before it gets better, and I guess we have the first part of that out of the way, maybe?

I did mention that there are TWO recipes for total and unrestricted warfare. An historical tipping point of 80% of men earning below the Real Poverty Level, in other words subsistence, living paycheck to paycheck with the vector moving to the zero point. All in the past preceding civil wars slash revolution and empire and or cultural collapse. We are accelerating to that tipping point. Is entirely possible that the 80% non-mating and the 80% RPL happen on the same day.
 

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The end of the world has been predicted since the beginning of time, and complaints by men about women for 2 times as long.

This BS about enslaving women to only cooking and cleaning and raising the kids..hire an au pair and please do not marry a woman and ruin her life with your attitude. If it were not for women, you would not be here. And if you blame a woman for where you are today, she is not your problem today.

Women are mother earth, they give birth to life. Sure, some of you may have passed by and planted a flagrant seed, she is who the kids say hi to on the TV. And suck it up, in this country and others around the world, we and they may not have won WWII if while men were on the front line, along with some some several hundred thousand women, those women who stayed behind became factory workers, truck drivers, accountants, Red Cross volunteers, and every job that needed to be done, you may be speaking a different language.

women are not the enemy.
 

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Rosie the Riveter (and her ilk) may have helped win WWII, but the women of today are very far removed from them. Too many of today's women are entitled, indoctrinated, and very, very angry at men. Also, unlike Rosie, they are not big fans of America either.
 

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Rosie the Riveter (and her ilk) may have helped win WWII, but the women of today are very far removed from them. Too many of today's women are entitled, indoctrinated, and very, very angry at men. Also, unlike Rosie, they are not big fans of America either.
they are angry at men (not all) for trying to control their bodies and not treat them as equals. Can you blame them?
 
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