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No, I actually did not. In two ways.
First, I gave you examples where it did and where it did not work out as you decree it always does.
Second, while you imply repeatedly it is the woman who is the money grabbing one when things go wrong, I commented that there is often cause/blame for a poor ending on both ending sides.
You really do try to argue in a myopic universe. I guess it is good that you don't try your skill at a Harvard debate.
Run along, you have made your one point enough times now. We all know how you feel.
First, I gave you examples where it did and where it did not work out as you decree it always does.
Second, while you imply repeatedly it is the woman who is the money grabbing one when things go wrong, I commented that there is often cause/blame for a poor ending on both ending sides.
You really do try to argue in a myopic universe. I guess it is good that you don't try your skill at a Harvard debate.
Run along, you have made your one point enough times now. We all know how you feel.
Your arguments don’t hold water
First of all, you referenced good relationships you have with FORMER providers, which is not germane to the discussion. This is about women currently in the business, who are actively making money doing it. So your point is irrelevant.
Secondly, you state that I’m blaming these women when “things go wrong.” Not true. Sometimes relationships like these just don’t work out, like many others. It’s not about the woman necessarily being at fault, but more about the loss of her feelings being significantly (if not totally) related to the fact that her cash flow has stopped. That’s really not hard to imagine regardless of how much good will existed beforehand
And please dispense with your condescending comments about my opinions. You are not judge and jury here, despite your self-perceived attitude as arbiter of all things logical
All those relationships with FORMER workers started WHILE THEY WERE WORKING. And continued AFTER I stopped paying them. Exactly what you say doesn't happen. That is why I mentioned them.
This is exactly my point about your posts. You don't follow the arguments very well at times.
On to part two: good, now you admit those relationships just don't work. I agree with that. But you still follow with a comment that her affection stopped because you stopped paying. Maybe you stopped paying because her affection stopped first. See the difference?
This is exactly my point about your posts. You don't follow the arguments very well at times.
On to part two: good, now you admit those relationships just don't work. I agree with that. But you still follow with a comment that her affection stopped because you stopped paying. Maybe you stopped paying because her affection stopped first. See the difference?
I keep saying it in various ways because D keeps saying it doesn't happen, and I am trying to explain to him in a way he will understand.
Kind of like you who also say they are imaginary. You too are wrong, by the way.
"Who care"? It seems to upset you, so I guess you do.
And they are far from my harem. They don't live with me (though I did invite one to, but she turned me down), I don't financially keep them (in which case I suppose they would be a collection of mistresses, not a harem), they are just friends.
At least you are very direct about your belief that women ONLY like men for their wallet. That could indeed be how they react to you. If you say so, I will assume you are telling me the truth.
Kind of like you who also say they are imaginary. You too are wrong, by the way.
"Who care"? It seems to upset you, so I guess you do.
And they are far from my harem. They don't live with me (though I did invite one to, but she turned me down), I don't financially keep them (in which case I suppose they would be a collection of mistresses, not a harem), they are just friends.
At least you are very direct about your belief that women ONLY like men for their wallet. That could indeed be how they react to you. If you say so, I will assume you are telling me the truth.
If the mechanic was a woman, she might. Civvie women often trade sex for favors, they just don't advertise it. I had a friend of mine who rented a spare room in his house. When he rented it to a hottie, within 4 months she was fucking him in lieu of paying the rent. I had someone else tell that a RE agent fucked them to help close a sale. The MeToo# movement aside, women routinely fuck their bosses. In the military, apparently there is a LOT of fucking. Some average (6 or below) looking girls go in and, for the first time in their lives, they are in remote, isolated locations surrounded by men who pay them a lot of attention. And they responds accordingly, sometimes in very outrageous ways. I've heard enough stories from vets that its hard to dismiss it as simply BS.
My own personal rule is NEVER to fuck someone in my professional orbit, either at my company or a client. I do get the occasional nibble, but always pass. No good can come of it. I've seen it happen and, before too long, EVERYONE knows and it always ends badly. It's just not worth it.
I love women, but one reason why they're often a step below men professionally is that they often rely on sex or sex appeal to get what they want. I'm convinced that it's so intrinsic to their nature that many may not even realize it when they're doing it.
My own personal rule is NEVER to fuck someone in my professional orbit, either at my company or a client. I do get the occasional nibble, but always pass. No good can come of it. I've seen it happen and, before too long, EVERYONE knows and it always ends badly. It's just not worth it.
I love women, but one reason why they're often a step below men professionally is that they often rely on sex or sex appeal to get what they want. I'm convinced that it's so intrinsic to their nature that many may not even realize it when they're doing it.
No! Not all women are like that, but sex workers are in the business of having sex for money and we as Mongers exchange currency for access to their sexual services. If u are engaged with a sex worker than its understood the relationship is business related. I'm not going to be foolish enough to convince myself that it's something special.
Ur on a Monger website were men exchange advice aboutfucking whores. Go to OK Cupid or POF if ur about establishing a relationship with a special lady or stay on topic, bcuz ur topic of discussion doesn't help anyone with the end goal of this site.
Ur on a Monger website were men exchange advice aboutfucking whores. Go to OK Cupid or POF if ur about establishing a relationship with a special lady or stay on topic, bcuz ur topic of discussion doesn't help anyone with the end goal of this site.
This a topic that everyone can't agree on. Who cares, round and round we go, when it stops nobody knows.
If nothing more, you can have a friend's with benefits relationship with these girls. Most likely will never make it to the "Love" stage. But it still can be fun, in and out of the spa. Or if you choose the more traditional monger role, that's fine too.
We all pkay it our own way, whatever works for us. No one will ever successfully cage another's opinion.
Have fun everyone.
If nothing more, you can have a friend's with benefits relationship with these girls. Most likely will never make it to the "Love" stage. But it still can be fun, in and out of the spa. Or if you choose the more traditional monger role, that's fine too.
We all pkay it our own way, whatever works for us. No one will ever successfully cage another's opinion.
Have fun everyone.
As to part one, now you conveniently bring up that your “relationships” started when they were working. Your previous post was about FORMER providers. Get the story straight or stop bringing it up. Regardless, the situation you describe (if it’s even true) is far from the norm, and yeah, it’s a unicorn
And your assumption about her affection stopping as the cause for ending my relationships is wrong. In both cases, I had relatively longer term SBs with whom I had become close, and not just physically. There was no lack of affection on their part during the entire time we were together. In fact, I ended the relationships because we were actually getting too close and I didn’t want to further risk my outside life. When things ended, in both cases the girls became pretty upset, complaining that I was being uncaring and leaving them “high and dry.” So much for the affection..
So stop making assumptions to back up your specious arguments. You have a rather skewed view of monger-provider relationships and I suggest that it applies to a very small number of situations
And your assumption about her affection stopping as the cause for ending my relationships is wrong. In both cases, I had relatively longer term SBs with whom I had become close, and not just physically. There was no lack of affection on their part during the entire time we were together. In fact, I ended the relationships because we were actually getting too close and I didn’t want to further risk my outside life. When things ended, in both cases the girls became pretty upset, complaining that I was being uncaring and leaving them “high and dry.” So much for the affection..
So stop making assumptions to back up your specious arguments. You have a rather skewed view of monger-provider relationships and I suggest that it applies to a very small number of situations
Exactly true. We are far from homogeneous, and the same with the women. We don't all GET or GIVE the same things because we don't all WANT the same things.
Why is it that those who do enjoy a FWB kind of relationship are quite willing to accept that there are guys who want no part of one, but those who are after only a simpler financial transaction can't understand they are not the only mindset out there.
Oh well.
Why is it that those who do enjoy a FWB kind of relationship are quite willing to accept that there are guys who want no part of one, but those who are after only a simpler financial transaction can't understand they are not the only mindset out there.
Oh well.
More Oh wow.
You found it difficult to make the leap that since they are former workers, and we are talking on a sex work board, that I met them while they were working? Really?
And you now admit you had feelings for a couple of you SBs, but you overlook that they too might have had really feelings back? Just maybe they felt/reacted like any woman who gets dumped. I don't know, but while they didn't lilk losing the money they probably also didn't like being emotionally dumped. But they didn't have feelings, only you did. I thought feelings didn't happen?
I guess your situation might not have been that different after all.
You found it difficult to make the leap that since they are former workers, and we are talking on a sex work board, that I met them while they were working? Really?
And you now admit you had feelings for a couple of you SBs, but you overlook that they too might have had really feelings back? Just maybe they felt/reacted like any woman who gets dumped. I don't know, but while they didn't lilk losing the money they probably also didn't like being emotionally dumped. But they didn't have feelings, only you did. I thought feelings didn't happen?
I guess your situation might not have been that different after all.
Guess you need some remedial reading courses. My point in citing those personal examples was that it was precisely because of losing the money that they reacted that way. Proves my original point. Feelings can occasionally develop, but in relationships where cash is being exchanged, financial interests trump feelings in the vast majority of cases. Don’t know why you can’t understand this. It’s pretty obvious. But then again you live in a fantasy world where surrounding yourself with providers has become a substitute for real life. So I guess that explains it..
What irritates me the most about these types of men is that they can never keep things strictly business and maintain professionalism. They always create problems for the business. These are the same types of people that try to act like they're more than clients when doing business. Always trying to establish a friendly relationship attempting to get a discount or extra services.
I'm forced to be professional and play nice when all I want is for u to pay ur fee, receive ur service and get the fuck out my place of business.
These men are filthy scamming conmen. The most irritating type of person one can have the displeasure to do business with.
If a women tries to take the relationship away from a business engagement than I remind her to keep it professional whether she's my client, employee or provider. I keep it strictly business and drama free.
As WHOREMONGERs we're in the business of paying women to leave. I'm not there to waste my time ruining the the whole point business arrangement.
I'm forced to be professional and play nice when all I want is for u to pay ur fee, receive ur service and get the fuck out my place of business.
These men are filthy scamming conmen. The most irritating type of person one can have the displeasure to do business with.
If a women tries to take the relationship away from a business engagement than I remind her to keep it professional whether she's my client, employee or provider. I keep it strictly business and drama free.
As WHOREMONGERs we're in the business of paying women to leave. I'm not there to waste my time ruining the the whole point business arrangement.
Both TGBeldin and Didi88 have valid opinions. The coin has two sides but neither side of the coin detracts from its value! Civilized debate is great, it shows that we are more than insensitive mindless mongers. Thank you both and all the gentlemen who pour out their souls to engage our minds. Happy and safe mongering to all!
Read some of your posts. Here is the thing. Something that starts off as mainly financial can become more than that. If you are a catch. Charming, attractive, funny, kind, affectionate, confident etc. And the SB I will use cause it's harder with pros. Notices your attributes it can easily turn into a relationship that becomes much more than just money. She may confide in you and appreciate that you've helped her out and if you are understanding that can also add to the cause. Women aren't robots they also can develop feelings.
However if you think all they are is money hungry. You won't see the other side of em. If you are open minded you may if she has more to her. If you are jaded you won't see any other side. I've never ever thought most Women are just money hungry. This is perhaps why my sessions go very well and all SB girls I've seen wanted to see me for hours and overnights and none took over $250.
However if you think all they are is money hungry. You won't see the other side of em. If you are open minded you may if she has more to her. If you are jaded you won't see any other side. I've never ever thought most Women are just money hungry. This is perhaps why my sessions go very well and all SB girls I've seen wanted to see me for hours and overnights and none took over $250.