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Flu Shot

LeCorsaire

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I have not had a flu shot in over 45 years , and have had the flu three times since 1985 . I am thinking about it this year but am not sure . Just recently turned 60 - any thoughts on this from those with medical knowledge ?
Don't. It will make you susceptible to whatever bug they may release again, specially if you're older like 60. Just strive to boost your immune system by eating a balanced, sound diet, exercise, take vitamin D, C, and listen to Dr Shiva, an expert in immunology, PhD.
 

njlefty

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I have to get over to the pharmacy. I'd like to get Vitamin C and D.

But with everything going on these days, I feel like I'm whistling past the graveyard with these vitamins.

I'll probably get shot or run over by a truck on the way to get my vitamins.

Be safe, my fellow mongers.
 

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I got a flu and shingles shot the same day last year. Do not do this. I was in bed thinking I might need to call 911. I will hold off on Covid vaccine, if you can even get one.
 

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I got hit by the fake news yet again!!!! Rush to get your flu shot, rush to get your flu shots, rush to get your flue shots. Dr. Faucci comes on a program and says he does not get it until late Oct because the vaccine can wear off during the peak flu season. WTF!!!!
 

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Over the last 2 decades the flu vaccine has a 40 percent efficacy rate. Fact. Ted Williams hit for same average in 1941
1) That's because the Flu shot doesn't cover every strain of Flu out there. So, if you catch one that wasn't in the vaccine cocktail, you need to fight it from scratch. Most people don't win. 2) As mentioned, some that gets the flu shot still get flu, from one of the strains in that vaccine. Could be because their body didn't have time to build enough antibodies (and why it's recommended to get the Flu shot early), or because their immune system wasn't strong enough, or was already compromised by something else.

Humans been fighting the Influenza virus for thousands of years. 40% is pretty good progress since the first one back in 1942, and the many strains that mutates every year.
 

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You left out B6 and E. Along with C, are the three most powerful boosters for the immune system. But I guess that depends on which Doctor you listen to.
I didn't leave it out, a sound and balanced diet include all of them vitamins, for those who get the gist. Exactly, I listen to real doctors and don't listen to those who pretend to be 'besserwisser' on boards like this.
 

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I didn't leave it out, a sound and balanced diet include all of them vitamins, for those who get the gist. Exactly, I listen to real doctors and don't listen to those who pretend to be 'besserwisser' on boards like this.
And I listen to those in my family that I watched suffer through Med School and their Internships, and trust my life with. Not some quacks on the Internet.
 

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And I listen to those in my family that I watched suffer through Med School and their Internships, and trust my life with. Not some quacks on the Internet.
Med schools, especially in the U.S teach 'war time medicine, 100 y/o medicine (one size fits all), completely outdated and rigged by big pharma money, deep rabbit hole. I rather listen to PhDs not bound and beholden by the powerful big money interest which has pretty much corrupted everything including what is known as "medicine" today.
 

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Med schools, especially in the U.S teach 'war time medicine, 100 y/o medicine (one size fits all), completely outdated and rigged by big pharma money, deep rabbit hole. I rather listen to PhDs not bound and beholden by the powerful big money interest which has pretty much corrupted everything including what is known as "medicine" today.
Any more qualified than how your Doctors got their certification? Problem with PhD's is they focus on theory and disregard real world applications. I't's those front line Doctors that prove or disprove their theories.
 

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Any more qualified than how your Doctors got their certification? Problem with PhD's is they focus on theory and disregard real world applications. I't's those front line Doctors that prove or disprove their theories.
So called frontline doctors are not immune to the money interest which pervades pretty much everything in life, so it is very difficult to get a frontline doctor or any doctor for that matter to honestly prove or disprove a theory when their salaries depend on their not applying real science, example on point the frontline Covid doctors who were ordered through their hospitals to record pretty much any death as Covid 19 while cashing in the money offered for deaths so recorded.
 

krideynyc

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So called frontline doctors are not immune to the money interest which pervades pretty much everything in life, so it is very difficult to get a frontline doctor or any doctor for that matter to honestly prove or disprove a theory when their salaries depend on their not applying real science, example on point the frontline Covid doctors who were ordered through their hospitals to record pretty much any death as Covid 19 while cashing in the money offered for deaths so recorded.
Their salary depends on their speciality. Most frontline doctors aren't the ones making Mid 6 figures with Private Practices. They're the ones in the hospitals and clinics treating the patients and administering the drug trials with real results. Without them, no medication or medical procedure would be approved. You only get so far with lab trials.
 

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Their salary depends on their speciality. Most frontline doctors aren't the ones making Mid 6 figures with Private Practices. They're the ones in the hospitals and clinics treating the patients and administering the drug trials with real results. Without them, no medication or medical procedure would be approved. You only get so far with lab trials.
You just proved my point exactly. Frontline doctors are in fact 'order followers', they disprove or approve whatever DRUGS or treatments (not real cures even) their big bosses tell them to do or else, that's why I always say 'follow the money'. That's not hard to understand.
 

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You just proved my point exactly. Frontline doctors are in fact 'order followers', they disprove or approve whatever DRUGS or treatments (not real cures even) their big bosses tell them to do or else, that's why I always say 'follow the money'. That's not hard to understand.
Not exactly. When they conduct the trials, sometimes they themselves don't have access to the conditions, to avoid partiality. And even if they do know, they still do it with full medical integrity, because it benefits their profession to have a cure. You're too stuck on the negative aspect of the Medical Industry. You need to meet more doctors.
 

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Not exactly. When they conduct the trials, sometimes they themselves don't have access to the conditions, to avoid partiality. And even if they do know, they still do it with full medical integrity, because it benefits their profession to have a cure. You're too stuck on the negative aspect of the Medical Industry. You need to meet more doctors.
I have doctors in my family and exrended family, and I can see you have a very naive understanding of how the world really works....money talks and you know what walks. Made my case.
 

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I have doctors in my family and exrended family, and I can see you have a very naive understanding of how the world really works....money talks and you know what walks. Made my case.
I think my view is more balanced than yours. I agree there are some in it for the money, but from my and my medical family's experience, including a few that works on the research side, they aren't the majority.
 

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I think my view is more balanced than yours. I agree there are some in it for the money, but from my and my medical family's experience, including a few that works on the research side, they aren't the majority.
Balanced in fairy tales. Covid 19 was a reality check where those who have the power and money (big pharma, gates et al, big financeers) showed their ugly face, anybody who dissented with their corrupt and mendacious official story got banned, their videos taken down, censored, character assasinated, etc, etc.
 
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