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Waterboy

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What percentage of all the amp women who you have met in your life do you feel actually care about you? And how do they demonstrate this caring?
3%.
In a variety of ways that is really none of your fucking business. My relationship with the girls I see is really between them and myself.
 

Waterboy

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Well as long as YOU think they care, whether it's actually true or not is all that matters I guess.
It's all that matters to me and the girl I'm with.
Maybe his style is why he considers himself "the biggest asshole on this site".

His words, not mine.
I deleted that. For a few reasons. The member who made the original statement is long gone. And the statement has been proven incorrect many many times. There are much bigger assholes on this site than me.
 

Koondog

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I am talking specifically about FS amp girls. Maybe she cares about you. Sure it's possible. But if she's not loyal to you (and there's no fucking way of possibly knowing that for sure), is it really true "caring"?

What if she sends messages to other customers on her phone through WeChat when you aren't together? There's no way of knowing. Possible meetings with other guys at hotels...again unless you are with her 24/7 there's just no way to evaluate how they really feel when in a relationship with one of us. Betrayal can be an awful thing, and I hate to see mongers fall into a rabbit hole of hell.
 

VJLUTZ

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What percentage of all the amp women who you have met in your life do you feel actually care about you? And how do they demonstrate this caring?
The criteria here will no doubt vary from person to person. But here are some I use that seem pretty sure-fire:

1. Does she chat with you obsessively? [Including getting worried when you don't immediately respond and frequently asking for your picture.]
2. Does she fuck you for free outside the spa? Will she commute on a bus over an hour (there and back) out of her own pocket to fuck you for free?
3. Does she buy you expensive gifts w/o you asking or even making any material demands on you?
4. Does she regularly tell you she loves you?

If the answer to all four is "Yes", then she cares about you. I have seen that behavior combo, but only out of one [legit] spa girl, out of over 100.

Back in the day, when I dated civvies, they way to tell if they really liked you was: would they offer to pay for stuff (like dinner or drinks)? That, and a certain strained face they made (which I've seen on multiple girls, but never seen described online), was a tell-tale sign that I could get them into bed that night. Or....if they offered to give you a BJ in the bushes.
 

Waterboy

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What if I don't care about what she does when she's not with me. I don't. I care about what she does and how she feels towards me when she is with me. That's it. Sincere or not, I choose to believe the illusion.
It's the best part of this hobby.
There is enough bullshit in real life. I enjoy fantasyland when I'm in fantasyland. And I do what I can to savor the memory as long as I can.
 

Koondog

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I find these girls have a certain hierarchy of caring, briefly:

1) PARENTS/SIBLINGS---seem to head the list and who can blame them
2) CHILDREN---much further down, they are often abandoned for years, foisted upon the parents back home to bring up, as they chase their fortunes here in the states
3) BEST FRIENDS BACK HOME---I hear them calling them frequently and buying things for them
4) OTHER AMP GIRLS---They tend to develop close relationships with other working girls, not a lot but some become 'best friends"..
5) HUSBANDS, BOYFRIENDS, and MEN IN GENERAL---bottom of the barrel in terms of them caring for. Usually not in the same galaxy as those listed above.
 

Koondog

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What if I don't care about what she does when she's not with me. I don't. I care about what she does and how she feels towards me when she is with me. That's it. Sincere or not, I choose to believe the illusion.
It's the best part of this hobby.
There is enough bullshit in real life. I enjoy fantasyland when I'm in fantasyland. And I do what I can to savor the memory as long as I can.
"I choose to believe the illusion."

That's cool. Illusion is a great word---that's all it is.
 

Koondog

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The criteria here will no doubt vary from person to person. But here are some I use that seem pretty sure-fire:

1. Does she chat with you obsessively? [Including getting worried when you don't immediately respond and frequently asking for your picture.]
2. Does she fuck you for free outside the spa? Will she commute on a bus over an hour (there and back) out of her own pocket to fuck you for free?
3. Does she buy you expensive gifts w/o you asking or even making any material demands on you?
4. Does she regularly tell you she loves you?

If the answer to all four is "Yes", then she cares about you. I have seen that behavior combo, but only out of one [legit] spa girl, out of over 100.

Back in the day, when I dated civvies, they way to tell if they really liked you was: would they offer to pay for stuff (like dinner or drinks)? That, and a certain strained face they made (which I've seen on multiple girls, but never seen described online), was a tell-tale sign that I could get them into bed that night. Or....if they offered to give you a BJ in the bushes.
"Will she commute on a bus over an hour (there and back) out of her own pocket to fuck you for free?"

That one is impressive. A girl willing to get on a bus for an hour to see you is like seeing a unicorn.
 

VJLUTZ

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Your list is generally true. But if they are really, genuinely in love, the SO man can zip to the top. At least for a while.

The other thing is: is she playing the Long Game? The Long Game is where she is using you as a means to an end, but successfully suppresses that for a long time (6 or more months, even years) to fool you. Very few girls have the discipline to pull off the LG (past 2-3 months), but some iron ladies can keep it up for years.
 

Koondog

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The criteria here will no doubt vary from person to person. But here are some I use that seem pretty sure-fire:

1. Does she chat with you obsessively? [Including getting worried when you don't immediately respond and frequently asking for your picture.]
2. Does she fuck you for free outside the spa? Will she commute on a bus over an hour (there and back) out of her own pocket to fuck you for free?
3. Does she buy you expensive gifts w/o you asking or even making any material demands on you?
4. Does she regularly tell you she loves you?

If the answer to all four is "Yes", then she cares about you. I have seen that behavior combo, but only out of one [legit] spa girl, out of over 100.

Back in the day, when I dated civvies, they way to tell if they really liked you was: would they offer to pay for stuff (like dinner or drinks)? That, and a certain strained face they made (which I've seen on multiple girls, but never seen described online), was a tell-tale sign that I could get them into bed that night. Or....if they offered to give you a BJ in the bushes.
I guess we might be blurring the terms 'caring for' and "love". That's probably a much longer discussion.
 

East Lake II

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They care, but they care in ways and show their care often different from what we want and expect. They may care a great deal, but how they show and display that care might be lost on us. Some may care and have feelings for you, and are giving you as much as they can given their circumstances. Don’t forget, we entered their lives quite late. And, keep in mind on what basis we entered their life.
 

East Lake II

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Your list is generally true. But if they are really, genuinely in love, the SO man can zip to the top. At least for a while.

The other thing is: is she playing the Long Game? The Long Game is where she is using you as a means to an end, but successfully suppresses that for a long time (6 or more months, even years) to fool you. Very few girls have the discipline to pull off the LG (past 2-3 months), but some iron ladies can keep it up for years.
Sad but true, you need to always remember there is most likely a long game. Or rather often there is a long game.
 

Koondog

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Your list is generally true. But if they are really, genuinely in love, the SO man can zip to the top. At least for a while.

The other thing is: is she playing the Long Game? The Long Game is where she is using you as a means to an end, but successfully suppresses that for a long time (6 or more months, even years) to fool you. Very few girls have the discipline to pull off the LG (past 2-3 months), but some iron ladies can keep it up for years.
Sure. I've seen the long game. You're right...most don't have the patience and can't keep up the pretense for such extended periods. Usually they hang themselves with their own rope given enough time and they give themselves away.
 
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