Conceal Carry in AMPs

[bjandthebear]

umm.. no. we city folk pretend like we belong. practice going naked and keep you pockets empty except for maybe 40 bucks sacrificial donation.. they'll definitely sense you've got something to lose if you get all shifty walking down the street.

 

[jim_hatez]

If you have a permit to carry a concealed weapon you would be crazy to use it unless absolutely necessary. I don't know how things work, but can a gun be traced back to the licensed owner using ballistics forensics? Maybe too many cop shows, lol.

Only if they have the shell casing or the bullet itself which they can perform a ballistic analysis on - they would also need the gun in their possession. So technically, if you were to use the gun, and it was hidden/never found they couldn't trace it back to you.

I.E. they can't use a casing or bullet fragment to trace a gun if they don't have the gun in the first place.

 

[easy2please]

Only if they have the shell casing or the bullet itself which they can perform a ballistic analysis on - they would also need the gun in their possession. So technically, if you were to use the gun, and it was hidden/never found they couldn't trace it back to you.

I.E. they can't use a casing or bullet fragment to trace a gun if they don't have the gun in the first place.

Just make sure you weren't caught on surveillance video and left that pesky cell phone at home

 

[fortysix]

Only if they have the shell casing or the bullet itself which they can perform a ballistic analysis on - they would also need the gun in their possession. So technically, if you were to use the gun, and it was hidden/never found they couldn't trace it back to you.

I.E. they can't use a casing or bullet fragment to trace a gun if they don't have the gun in the first place.

Can do like DeNiro in godfather 2 and climb up on the AMP roof, break your pistol in pieces, and toss down a bunch of chimbleys, no one will ever know!

 

[oldhorndog53]

Can do like DeNiro in godfather 2 and climb up on the AMP roof, break your pistol in pieces, and toss down a bunch of chimbleys, no one will ever know!

What’s a “chimbley”?

 

[Gringo]

Whether or not it’s a good idea to carry one around the city or not…etc etc can be debated but strays off topic. The answer to the question - no, don’t bring your damn handgun into an AMP. With a permit to conceal and carry comes responsibility. In this case there’s a responsibility to reconcile in your own head how you manage the logistics of this without brining it into the AMP. Lockbox in your trunk, leave it at home, etc. that’s for you to figure out. You want to conceal and carry - that’s your right, fine. Figure it out then…just don’t take it into the AMP. It’s a terrible idea.

 

[fortysix]

What’s a “chimbley”?

Is the thing on the roof that goes up, smoke comes out of it, can't give too much away, for those who never saw the film!

 

[oldhorndog53]

Is the thing on the roof that goes up, smoke comes out of it, can't give too much away, for those who never saw the film!

Oh, you’re referring to a chimney!

 

[Shocker69]

My big revelation from this thread is people hang up their clothes at an AMP! I always just fold them and dump them on the floor.

 

[fffinster]

If you have a permit to carry a concealed weapon you would be crazy to use it unless absolutely necessary. I don't know how things work, but can a gun be traced back to the licensed owner using ballistics forensics? Maybe too many cop shows, lol.

The serial number goes on the bill of sale, which could be traced to the buyer, however ballistics can't be traced without the gun in possession. If they have the gun, they can match the ballistics to it, then use the serial number to possibly trace back to the owner. I think in Pennsylvania, the bill of sale is only retained by the seller and the serial number doesn't get filed with the state.

 

[212monger]

One of the worst ideas I have ever heard, and I carry. You are going to leave have to be separated from it at some point leaving it for the taking. If it gets stolen, you are going to have to put on a public police report that you left out unattended when you got a TS in a AMP.

If it is discovered on you by someone at the AMP they will freak out.

You should have a lock box in the car for those times you cannot take it, if not, get one or leave it at home.

 

[seandoe]

what exactly is your concerns?

Scenario #1 You get robbed and you're out 200+ but most likely you just move along with you life and no one ever knows anything. The robber is most likely not interested in harming or killing anyone. Most likely they just want hit the establishment for it's cash more than trying to rob an individual customer. A year from now your life will be the same.

Scenario #2 - You play Rambo and shoot the guy thus keeping your 200. There is a high likely hood that eventually the police will get involved. A high likely hood that this will hit the news. Even though you're within your rights if they guy dies not it could be a high profile court case. Remember Cameras are everywhere anymore. Even if you park around the corner cameras will show you walking down the street from the spa. There will be video of you driving away. There will be video of a guy coming out of the spa will a gun shot wound.

Obviously, these aren't the only scenarios, and there are countless possibilities. To me, carrying a gun and being willing to use it opens the door to many more negative possibilities that out weigh the potential positive outcomes. Especially having to explain what you were doing in an AMP to your employer and family. All of a sudden losing that 200 you were already willing to be without, after an hour of fun, just doesn't seem like it would be worth it to me.

I have thought about the potential of getting mugged before. Whenever I am in the city, I keep most of my cash, in that small pocket for a watch in my Levi Jeans. I also keep about $30-$40 in cash in the regular pocket. If I get robbed, I am pull out my pockets and showing the robber the cash. I am telling him unless he accepts Credit cards that is all the money I have. I would throw it on the ground and walk away backwards. Most of them are going to grab the money and run for it. Start yelling, the hate it when you raise your voice to a yell because you're drawing attention to them.

Scenario three is what happened in Atlanta though

 

[Abc246825]

Thats the dilemma I was having. I carry everyday and I have it holstered on me at all times, but for going to an AMP, I’m not sure how to approach it. I’d hate to leave the house without it. The only thing is if I just go there and straight back home then I can just leave it in the house, but I would rarely drive down all the way to center city just for a session and then back. I know it doesn’t hurt to just leave it at home for a day, but I wanted to see if anyone else had their own thoughts or opinions.

Why are you afraid to leave the house without a gun?

 

[seandoe]

Why are you afraid to leave the house without a gun?

Is that a serious question?

 

[Abc246825]

Is that a serious question?

Of course.

 

[seandoe]

Of course.

You must not pay any attention to what goes on in the world.

 

[Abc246825]

You must not pay any attention to what goes on in the world.

Oh stop.

 

[Boffo]

Honestly, I feel safer living in Philly without a gun than I would if I had one. I have no need to introduce that variable into my life.

 

[seandoe]

Oh stop.

You want me to stop paying attention?

 

[Abc246825]

You want me to stop paying attention?

What are you so afraid of that you can't leave your house without a gun? If you do conceal carry, how much training have you had, so you're not more dangerous to yourself and innocent bystanders than all the perceived bad guys?