Almost went down a stupid path... Falling for a J Girl...

[krideynyc]

You admitted that you were never married yet you said that "a happy marriage required both partner's input."

No. I've been happily married for over 30 years.

During my marriage, I begged my ex to go to a marriage counselor together but she refused. Another thing you are wrong about if the wife is not happy in the marriage, she would pack up and leave. I'm sure that if you ask many of the mongers here, they are not exactly thrilled with the idea of staying married with you. What's worse is that the stigma of being divorced and the high chance that she will end up living by herself for the rest of her life without getting married, especially when divorcing in an old age. I'm sorry, but you have no first hand knowledge in that subject. If you are asking, I am intending to re-marry in a few years, probably be a passport bro.

See my reply above and come back.

 

[BonerMaloney]

How do you know? You actually married to an AMP girl? You really have no authority on this.

Based on your track record, your judgment of at least one woman's true nature is questionable.

When I met my Chinese GF at the time, she was kind, respectful, cares about how you think and feel. Of course, I married her and her mask came off, she became dispresectful, doesn't care about and doesn't care about what I think.

Otherwise you're assuming because your wife fooled you she would have fooled all of us too.

From my armchair, it looks more like she didn't fool you she just changed because she got to know you better. It happens.

People deliberately sabotage the relationship they're in all kinds of ways. Sometimes even by seeing another woman and then getting caught. (But seeing another woman for sex is not something we should really be discussing on this site, I'm sorry I brought it up.)

 

[twotimesone]

Based on your track record, your judgment of at least one woman's true nature is questionable.

Otherwise you're assuming because your wife fooled you she would have fooled all of us too.

From my armchair, it looks more like she didn't fool you she just changed because she got to know you better. It happens.

People deliberately sabotage the relationship they're in all kinds of ways. Sometimes even by seeing another woman and then getting caught. (But seeing another woman for sex is not something we should really be discussing on this site, I'm sorry I brought it up.)

I've known many other couples who have better relationships where their wives respect their husbands so I know what I am talking about.

Also, from your Armchair you don't know much about my relationship. I started going to amps long after she is changed.

 

[twotimesone]

No. I've been happily married for over 30 years.

See my reply above and come back.

If you are so happily married, why are you going to amps?

 

[krideynyc]

If you are so happily married, why are you going to amps?

Same reason most married men do. Not enough action at home.

 

[twotimesone]

Same reason most married men do. Not enough action at home.

You dating providers and not having enough action at home doesn't sound like a happy marriage to me. If your wife knows, she probably won't be too happy either.

 

[krideynyc]

You dating providers and not having enough action at home doesn't sound like a happy marriage to me. If your wife knows, she probably won't be too happy either.

I dates provider because I really enjoy the intimate sessions that only happens during a date. My marriage is fine. We have a "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" agreement. Sex is a stupid reason to get divorced after 30 years of marriage. She's actually happy I'm hobbying, as that means she has to do it less.

 

[bhaus]

You really don't understand the psychology of women. When I met my Chinese GF at the time, she was kind, respectful, cares about how you think and feel. Of course, I married her and her mask came off, she became dispresectful, doesn't care about and doesn't care about what I think. It became worse after our kids are born because she can use them against me. During my marriage, I never felt so alone in my life and decided to go to AMPS otherwise I seriously considered taking my life otherwise because I had nothing to live for. Now I am divorced and I started to have hopes to things that I want to live for without my ex.

While I don't have close enough relationship an AMP woman, compared to my ex, these AMP women have so much baggage that they are definitely NOT wife material. It is best not to deal with them because if you get close to one of them, it will be YOUR problem. They seriously need counseling to get their head straight if they want to be in a monogamous relationship. Even if they did, their old skeletons might come back to haunt them and you have to deal with it.

I'm honestly sorry that you went through that. And I also believe that many,or probably most, of the women in this profession have a lot of baggage. It's difficult for a woman with a normal, happy family and circle of friends to live this lifestyle without being pressured not to do it. So, at the least, they have to hide what they do in order to live a normal life. It also plays psychological games on them. Admittedly, I don't have the experience of marriage myself, but I have maintained some distant relationships for decades with a few women who have since, been married, had kids, and seem to be happy (particularly one whose husband is well off). The Chinese women, who married a Chinese man, seem to be happiest. The Chinese women who married American men seem to have some challenges but are still together 10+ years on. I do have to say that I have had a couple of secret sexually liaisons just for the sake of good sex with two of the women who are happily married to Chinese men- but it's not common. I don't know if that's what you mean by skeletons coming back, but yeah, I totally agree with you in that. In any case, they seem to love their husbands and they seem happily married otherwise.

 

[twotimesone]

I'm honestly sorry that you went through that. And I also believe that many,or probably most, of the women in this profession have a lot of baggage. It's difficult for a woman with a normal, happy family and circle of friends to live this lifestyle without being pressured not to do it. So, at the least, they have to hide what they do in order to live a normal life. It also plays psychological games on them. Admittedly, I don't have the experience of marriage myself, but I have maintained some distant relationships for decades with a few women who have since, been married, had kids, and seem to be happy (particularly one whose husband is well off). The Chinese women, who married a Chinese man, seem to be happiest. The Chinese women who married American men seem to have some challenges but are still together 10+ years on. I do have to say that I have had a couple of secret sexually liaisons just for the sake of good sex with two of the women who are happily married to Chinese men- but it's not common. I don't know if that's what you mean by skeletons coming back, but yeah, I totally agree with you in that. In any case, they seem to love their husbands and they seem happily married otherwise.

You explained the skeletons in your post because they have baggage and unresolved issues in order to have a successful marriages. Many fake traditional women thinks they are 'suppressed' and they will suppress their true intention until they married to the guy and thinks that she 'got' him and the masks came off. Other fake traditional women will remain 'traditional' but hide secret desires of their own from their husband and will cheat like the 2 women that you mentioned above. Before I was married, I thought that women should be respected and trusted. I came to realize that they are much less trustworthy then men.

 

[rigandine]

Before I was married, I thought that women should be respected and trusted. I came to realize that they are much less trustworthy then men.

This is because men are raised and expected by society to do what is right no matter what and to ignore our emotions. Our parents and society expects this of us.


Women are taught to follow their emotions. This is problematic for a ton of reasons. Women's only standards of behavior are entirely based around preserving their sexual purity so they can get married. This is why they have no sense of honor, no shame in asking for things they dont deserve, ect.

 

[Koondog]

Let's be honest. Maybe these AMP girls want the top 5%, but these AMP girls themselves are not the top 5%. Even if these Amp girls have the looks rated 6, 7 or 8's, I'm sure most normal men and especially the top 5% would totally disregard them as wife material.

Correct, and I think not one of them realizes it. Once you hit the prostitute stage, common sense should tell a person that marriage and finding a serious man (non-simp) who could overlook this and ever trust her is just not a possibility.

 

[rigandine]

Correct, and I think not one of them realizes it. Once you hit the prostitute stage, common sense should tell a person that marriage and finding a serious man (non-simp) who could overlook this and ever trust her is just not a possibility.

they live in a fantasy world where they are still eligible for marriage by top 5% man but they all settle for rich simps that they arent attracted to and are horrible wives that are addicted to cocks and thus cheat constantly with alpha males.

 

[Koondog]

This is because men are raised and expected by society to do what is right no matter what and to ignore our emotions. Our parents and society expects this of us.


Women are taught to follow their emotions. This is problematic for a ton of reasons. Women's only standards of behavior are entirely based around preserving their sexual purity so they can get married. This is why they have no sense of honor, no shame in asking for things they dont deserve, ect.

"Women are taught to follow their emotions." Yep, unfortunately they bring this characteristic with them into the voting booth which really makes one really want to re-think the whole women's right to vote thing.

 

[rigandine]

"Women are taught to follow their emotions." Yep, unfortunately they bring this characteristic with them into the voting booth which really makes one really want to re-think the whole women's right to vote thing.

This new paleoconservative idea that women should not be voting is fucking stupid. Paleoconsevatism itself is stupid

"Hurrr lets apply 16th century solutions to 21st century problems"

Fucking retarded. Men vote with their emotions as well. If they didn't the fucking republican party would not even exist. It has no logical reason to exist anymore. The most basic thing to conserve is the constitution and republicans cant even do that - they want a white nationalist dictatorship

They arent fiscally conservative (red states cannot exist without tax money from blue states due to fiscal mismanagement)
They dont practice sound monetary policy (they threaten to default on the nations debt and got the US credit rating downgraded)
They run the poorest most poverty stricken districts (the reddest states are the poorest with the worst standards of living)
They trash the constitution (George W Bush and Donald "l did not take an oath to protect the constitution" Trump)

Theres no reason for them to exist at this point- the entire party is a mentally retarded white nationalist fever dream entirely running on emotion.

 

[rigandine]

By the way in regards to politics that is all I am going to say about that matter. I'm not debating anyone and you are free to believe whatever you want.

Back on topic - only love a woman that loves you more than you love her. the relationship dynamic wont work if the man loves the woman more

 

[dglsmn]

it is better to rent these attractive women and not own them.

Man…

There is a saying in the high earner leasing business.
“If it flies, floats, or fucks~ LEASE IT!

 

[twotimesone]

This is because men are raised and expected by society to do what is right no matter what and to ignore our emotions. Our parents and society expects this of us.

Women are taught to follow their emotions. This is problematic for a ton of reasons. Women's only standards of behavior are entirely based around preserving their sexual purity so they can get married. This is why they have no sense of honor, no shame in asking for things they dont deserve, ect.

Another problem with women is that they are taught not to be accountable for their actions. Recently there is news about "brick lady" who made claims about a man who hit her with a brick because she says the man refused to give her a phone number. Feminists came out in droves complaining about how men are evil and even got a gofundme page and got $40k out of it. However, she is recently charged for making this whole thing up and now the same feminists are silent.

As for my ex before I visited any AMPS, she often tell me that she is going to hang out with friends and family without me and often avoid me hanging out with her just the 2 of us. When I confronted her about this she just silent about it. She is quick in finding problems about me but she often ignores about problems about herself.

 

[Blixen]

By the way in regards to politics that is all I am going to say about that matter. I'm not debating anyone and you are free to believe whatever you want.

Odd - why spew such a rant and then say, That’s all in going to say on the matter, I’m not debating?
Obviously many thoughtful people would strongly disagree with all of your premises, here and among the general public.
So why throw out incendiary and gratuitous insults?

 

[Koondog]

This new paleoconservative idea that women should not be voting is fucking stupid. Paleoconsevatism itself is stupid

"Hurrr lets apply 16th century solutions to 21st century problems"

Fucking retarded. Men vote with their emotions as well. If they didn't the fucking republican party would not even exist. It has no logical reason to exist anymore. The most basic thing to conserve is the constitution and republicans cant even do that - they want a white nationalist dictatorship

They arent fiscally conservative (red states cannot exist without tax money from blue states due to fiscal mismanagement)
They dont practice sound monetary policy (they threaten to default on the nations debt and got the US credit rating downgraded)
They run the poorest most poverty stricken districts (the reddest states are the poorest with the worst standards of living)
They trash the constitution (George W Bush and Donald "l did not take an oath to protect the constitution" Trump)

Theres no reason for them to exist at this point- the entire party is a mentally retarded white nationalist fever dream entirely running on emotion.

Look, that was said half in jest but you get the point. Plenty of people in this country should not be voting, those that know nothing about our history and how our government works, those on welfare, those who don't pay taxes, those that vote primarily for the 'right' to kill an unborn child (gee wonder who that crowd is), those totally ignorant on issues of the day and have no idea why they are voting as they do in the first place. Only truly informed people with skin in the game should be eligible to vote. In a sane world anyway.

 

[rigandine]

Odd - why spew such a rant and then say, That’s all in going to say on the matter, I’m not debating?
Obviously many thoughtful people would strongly disagree with all of your premises, here and among the general public.
So why throw out incendiary and gratuitous insults?

Because what I sad was absolutely true and I dont want to derail this thread. if anyone wants to debate politics they can make another topic and we can carry it on there. I said that was all I would comment on the matter and I am leaving it there.


Back on topic - I want a nuclear family and my ex girlfriend said something while we were watching wolf of wall street. "you put me in a house like that you can fuck all of the prostitutes you want, just dont let me find out about it"

I dont even want side bitches, i just want to fuck whores on the side. I dont want to take them to dinner, or any stuff that is even remotely relationship like. I just want to fuck and bounce. Im a busy guy, i dont have time for talking to ten women.

My business partner laments that for the business he owns (a separate entity I am not involved in) that one of his partners is a womanizer and that if he stopped with all the womanizing and just fucked whores and bounced they would both be further along in their endeavor. They do fantastic right now (they only buy 6 figure cars) but my partner believes they would be in rolls royce and private jets if his partner was more focused.