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Max737

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Did the guy who answered and returned her phone was Chinese? If yes be very careful as it could be a scam to blackmail you and or take your info including bank details, place of residence etc.
 

nycdude

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Your not paying attention as I debunked that scam theory at the beginning of thread .
Yeah when I go for dinner, I make sure I do not give them my bank account # details, my ss #, my atm card pin and my mothers maiden name. Cuz, ya know though those kind of questions are part of normal conversation and you never know, people might use that information to scam. LOL, DUH !
 

pocoloco51

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Seriously, I'm DYING to see how this plays out.

So, what the move during dinner, "Gramps?"

"How's the chicken? BTW, would you mind if we skip dessert, and just have a quickie at a hot sheet motel?" :oops::LOL:
 

Doubleyellow

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Before your imagination runs too wild she was impressed by my knowledge of standard deviation including articulating the formula ( with one small error which she corrected me on) . How many high school kids can rattle off the formula and how many everyday scamsters know it so precise that that can note the smallest of errors?

This reality is a far cry from the tangent you were going down where you said " her being impressed by the term standard deviation "
Imagine what she would have agreed to if you rattled out the standard error of the mean formula, or better yet, went through solving for X and proving that when X = 0.999999, X really = 1.0. This gets them every time.

What are your plans (a, and back up of b and c) for the making your move? You absolutely need to ask her about her math life to loosen her up.....be conversant in the abstractness and contradictions of infinity. Maybe ask if she thinks the Greek's were limited in math because they didn't have the symbol '0'. Or let it slip that you find it fascinating how the Fibonacci Sequence is found throughout nature, mention that her beautiful face is the golden ratio at it's best, then whip out a sunflower and admire it.

https://www.mathsisfun.com/ might be your secret sauce.

Oh yeah, be sure to mention how marvelous you find it that when large groups of people who do not speak each others language meet in the same room, if they are musicians or mathematicians, they can immediately converse through their specific expertise.

Math is your way in, don't doubt me on this.
 

pocoloco51

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Imagine what she would have agreed to if you rattled out the standard error of the mean formula, or better yet, went through solving for X and proving that when X = 0.999999, X really = 1.0. This gets them every time.

What are your plans (a, and back up of b and c) for the making your move? You absolutely need to ask her about her math life to loosen her up.....be conversant in the abstractness and contradictions of infinity. Maybe ask if she thinks the Greek's were limited in math because they didn't have the symbol '0'. Or let it slip that you find it fascinating how the Fibonacci Sequence is found throughout nature, mention that her beautiful face is the golden ratio at it's best, then whip out a sunflower and admire it.

https://www.mathsisfun.com/ might be your secret sauce.

Oh yeah, be sure to mention how marvelous you find it that when large groups of people who do not speak each others language meet in the same room, if they are musicians or mathematicians, they can immediately converse through their specific expertise.

Math is your way in, don't doubt me on this.
:geek:
 

richardp2918

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Imagine what she would have agreed to if you rattled out the standard error of the mean formula, or better yet, went through solving for X and proving that when X = 0.999999, X really = 1.0. This gets them every time.

What are your plans (a, and back up of b and c) for the making your move? You absolutely need to ask her about her math life to loosen her up.....be conversant in the abstractness and contradictions of infinity. Maybe ask if she thinks the Greek's were limited in math because they didn't have the symbol '0'. Or let it slip that you find it fascinating how the Fibonacci Sequence is found throughout nature, mention that her beautiful face is the golden ratio at it's best, then whip out a sunflower and admire it.

https://www.mathsisfun.com/ might be your secret sauce.

Oh yeah, be sure to mention how marvelous you find it that when large groups of people who do not speak each others language meet in the same room, if they are musicians or mathematicians, they can immediately converse through their specific expertise.

Math is your way in, don't doubt me on this.
Golden ratio is golden...
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Doubleyellow

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Yes, knowing this ratio (45:55 or 0.81818182, whichever is sexier to her) would be wise and serve as a form of mathematical dirty talk, this would be a good 'angle'. Perhaps carrying a set of digital calipers or a plain old plastic protractor would stimulate her curousity.

Brilliant addition for the OP to consider.

He could also 'raise' the discussion on dangle angle and 'insert' a comparison of himself to the below chart.

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herbstriker

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Yeah when I go for dinner, I make sure I do not give them my bank account # details, my ss #, my atm card pin and my mothers maiden name
Too late, OP already handed them his cell phone. I used to use a website to crack the pwd on local device, and that was 15 years ago. Lord knows what exists now.
 

nycdude

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Too late, OP already handed them his cell phone. I used to use a website to crack the pwd on local device, and that was 15 years ago. Lord knows what exists now.
So you are saying they already have all his personal financial information since Wednesday ? They have all this, but decided not to do anything with it because they have some kind of bigger scam when she sees him tomorrow ?
 

herbstriker

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So you are saying they already have all his personal financial information since Wednesday ? They have all this, but decided not to do anything with it because they have some kind of bigger scam when she sees him tomorrow ?
no, I'm saying if you give your phone to a stranger it's possible they can use readily available online tools to skim information from it. that's all.. also clever scammers don't do obvious things like immediately hack into your bank account as soon as you hand them your phone. they gather a large number of accounts at the same time and take a small amount of money out of each of them over a long period of time so it goes unnoticed.
 

nycdude

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no, I'm saying if you give your phone to a stranger it's possible they can use readily available online tools to skim information from it. that's all.. also clever scammers don't do obvious things like immediately hack into your bank account as soon as you hand them your phone. they gather a large number of accounts at the same time and take a small amount of money out of each of them over a long period of time so it goes unnoticed.
ok, thanks for explaining. Makes sense they take small amount for each over time.

I still do not think he is being scammed. His 66 yrs of life experience, living in NYC, an experienced monger and especially his experience as a NYC sugar daddy. So many scammers on SA NYC.
 

herbstriker

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ok, thanks for explaining. Makes sense they take small amount for each over time.

I still do not think he is being scammed. His 66 yrs of life experience, living in NYC, an experienced monger and especially his experience as a NYC sugar daddy. So many scammers on SA NYC.
meh. He discounted every red flag. And handed them his phone. in 10 seconds, you go to a website, punch in a code and blam, you are rooted and skimmed. This is a numbers game. If this is what I think it is these 2 spend 10 hours a day collecting data. In a week they have 100+ profiles. if 5% of them payoff a few hundred bucks each that is a a few grand, cash. That the target will not notice. We are not talking Enron level larceny here, it street level penny ante stuff that requires little investment.
 

richardp2918

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meh. He discounted every red flag. And handed them his phone. in 10 seconds, you go to a website, punch in a code and blam, you are rooted and skimmed. This is a numbers game. If this is what I think it is these 2 spend 10 hours a day collecting data. In a week they have 100+ profiles. if 5% of them payoff a few hundred bucks each that is a a few grand, cash. That the target will not notice. We are not talking Enron level larceny here, it street level penny ante stuff that requires little investment.
I'm not familiar with the many ways information can be used to con people, but if a phone number and basic information was all that was needed to do this, wouldn't it be a lot faster and easier to do this with online dating or social media? Hot girls on dating apps are inundated with messages and they can easily screen for the profile they want, etc.
 

herbstriker

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No, the skimmers pull consumer level info (bank, paypal, etc) but also hardware ids, sim ids, imei etc that are useful. These devices are like consumer DNA. Even stuff you do on other devices ends up on them. It is not high end hacking to steal this. its is more like social engineering (IE trickery, like "oh, kind stranger, may I use your phone?")
 

Eddy Harder

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Send her a message about something you talked about. "Hey found this online." Tell her you're glad she got her phone back and invite her to your social media. Take it from there.
 

rongetcha

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meh. He discounted every red flag. And handed them his phone. in 10 seconds, you go to a website, punch in a code and blam, you are rooted and skimmed. This is a numbers game. If this is what I think it is these 2 spend 10 hours a day collecting data. In a week they have 100+ profiles. if 5% of them payoff a few hundred bucks each that is a a few grand, cash. That the target will not notice. We are not talking Enron level larceny here, it street level penny ante stuff that requires little investment.
You have a vivid imagination and are so off base it's hilarious. What's next , they are Martians using me to find the genetic code of the human race ?
 
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