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Wondering about the no AA disclosure

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Dweebyfern04

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Just bored and curious, im not AA, but i see in listings enough about no AA and wonder whats that all about
 

KISA

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They think we're all too cheap and too rough. Or that we'll somehow short them out of the money or even rob them or something like that.
That may be the perception but the massage lady has the right to say no. One time a few years ago I was at Young Spa on 41 St in the basement close to Main. I was hooking up with my provider first time I met her and this AA guy opens curtain mid stroke and starts arguing with my massage lady. That killed it for me until she explained that she had said no to him. Unknown reason why she said no. A few other times I have seen a few more arguments with other AA men in massage places but did not stick around for answers or reasons.
 

Undercoverbrova

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Unfortunately a few rotten apples do spoil the barrel.
But there are bad hombres in all races however AA have a larger profile.
Agreed. I just think that the perception of us historically and the racism that has always permeated America is an unspoken strike one against us to begin with.

It also doesn't help lately that there's been a lot of racial tension lately in the headlines between blacks and Asians...
 

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That may be the perception but the massage lady has the right to say no. One time a few years ago I was at Young Spa on 41 St in the basement close to Main. I was hooking up with my provider first time I met her and this AA guy opens curtain mid stroke and starts arguing with my massage lady. That killed it for me until she explained that she had said no to him. Unknown reason why she said no. A few other times I have seen a few more arguments with other AA men in massage places but did not stick around for answers or reasons.
No disrespect but these anecdotal stories are useless. Unless there’s statistics showing AA men are more aggressive with providers then it’s bullshit. Have you ever thought maybe you saw AA men in arguments because they could tell they were being treated a certain way because of the color of their skin? Yes this is America, but it’s also illegal for businesses to discriminate based on race. Obviously that’s not a law that’s gonna be enforced in this industry anytime soon but basically providers use that leeway to behave with unjust prejudice.
 

AmituofoNY

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Immigrants from Asia can be incredibly prejudiced, in some ways that might surprise you (against other asians) & others that don't (anti amigo or anti AA)

No disrespect but these anecdotal stories are useless. Unless there’s statistics showing AA men are more aggressive with providers then it’s bullshit.
AA is 13% of the US population and is responsible for over 50% of US murders, including one this weekend against a completely random asian woman on the NYC subway. It is ignorant to say that is because of the color of their skin, there are clearly environmental and social factors but the stats are pretty negative.
 

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On one hand, these policies (just like the Chinese-only policies of many flushing houses) are prejudiced and discriminatory.

On the other hand, this isn't selling coffee, it's a service that involves a physical connection and therefore providers have a right to discriminate amongst who they want to see.

Having talked to various MMS over the years, these policies exist because they limit robberies (common at AMPs), attention from LE, and troublesome customers who disturb other guests by arguing over which services are being provided or whether they are being shorted time.

They fall under the class of a typical stereotype - based on anecdotal experience, but statistically, more true than not.
 

OnTheHunt1980

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No disrespect but these anecdotal stories are useless. Unless there’s statistics showing AA men are more aggressive with providers then it’s bullshit. Have you ever thought maybe you saw AA men in arguments because they could tell they were being treated a certain way because of the color of their skin? Yes this is America, but it’s also illegal for businesses to discriminate based on race. Obviously that’s not a law that’s gonna be enforced in this industry anytime soon but basically providers use that leeway to behave with unjust prejudice.
Who are you kidding?!?!?! you must live in a different world.....
 

Losemind78

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On one hand, these policies (just like the Chinese-only policies of many flushing houses) are prejudiced and discriminatory.

On the other hand, this isn't selling coffee, it's a service that involves a physical connection and therefore providers have a right to discriminate amongst who they want to see.

Having talked to various MMS over the years, these policies exist because they limit robberies (common at AMPs), attention from LE, and troublesome customers who disturb other guests by arguing over which services are being provided or whether they are being shorted time.

They fall under the class of a typical stereotype - based on anecdotal experience, but statistically, more true than not.
It’s not always stereotype they get to find out physically, a girl got raped in manhattan by an AA, the other girl went and called the police, police came and the girl was still being raped even after the police came they had to pry the AA away from the girl. The girl was blue in the face from lack of oxygen, she had a black eye and her mouth was bleeding and she was bleeding between the legs. She was taken to the hospital and got shots and luckily she didn’t get any std’s. So if you were a girl would you serve an AA after getting raped? They are human to, they served an AA but because of that she got raped. Not all AA’s are like that and she used to serve AA’s not she doesn’t. Asian will serve AA’s until they get raped or hear about other workers getting raped. That’s why they are fearful, there’s nothing about being black/white or yellow. But it’s always someone that fucks it for everyone else.
 

Ineedit

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The true answer lies within the nature of the hobby..
Every body pays the same price regardless to the color of the skin
But it is a know fact that NOBODY likes 2 work hard for the money.
Any provider will agree with the below statement.
1- Asians can do 2 pops very easy within an hour giving the provider rest periods in between.
2- Caucasian men pop within an ample amount of time.
3- AA men seem 2 take a long time for the 1st pop giving the provider a challenge and also the myth about their size...

That is the only reason....
As background and or criminal statistics are ruled out....
Money is money in this game.
 

CAPES99

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It’s not always stereotype they get to find out physically, a girl got raped in manhattan by an AA, the other girl went and called the police, police came and the girl was still being raped even after the police came they had to pry the AA away from the girl. The girl was blue in the face from lack of oxygen, she had a black eye and her mouth was bleeding and she was bleeding between the legs. She was taken to the hospital and got shots and luckily she didn’t get any std’s. So if you were a girl would you serve an AA after getting raped? They are human to, they served an AA but because of that she got raped. Not all AA’s are like that and she used to serve AA’s not she doesn’t. Asian will serve AA’s until they get raped or hear about other workers getting raped. That’s why they are fearful, there’s nothing about being black/white or yellow. But it’s always someone that fucks it for everyone else.
Extrapolating about an entire race from anecdotal experience is the definition of a stereotype

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stereotype
 

OnTheHunt1980

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Man! can't believe what I am reading here. SMH. Regardless what it is, a provider has the right to see or not to see anyone, and obviously she has her reasons that you guys here tend not to or avoid to accept... stereotype or not , IT IS WHAT IT IS.............. and we all know it
 

Losemind78

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Extrapolating about an entire race from anecdotal experience is the definition of a stereotype

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stereotype
Well what can you expect when it happens one time a 2nd time and 3rd time? Or does a woman have to be raped 100 times before it becomes true? Women who gets raped rather not see the same person again no matter what color it is. Some women don’t do Asian people so is that stereotyping to? Or is it okay to stereotype everyone else? You have to put yourself in their shoes. It’s like if you get raped in jail, by one kind it turns into a ptsd it’s a sort of post traumatic stress disorder. It doesn’t have to do with anything else, some women don’t want to go through that so they have the ability to choose, it’s like the right not to serve you at a restaurant if you are rude and spit on the floor. Let’s stop it at this, this is not a place to discuss this. Women have the right to choose their partner just like some people prefer fat to thin woman, big boobs or no boobs.
 

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Immigrants from Asia can be incredibly prejudiced, in some ways that might surprise you (against other asians) & others that don't (anti amigo or anti AA)



AA is 13% of the US population and is responsible for over 50% of US murders, including one this weekend against a completely random asian woman on the NYC subway. It is ignorant to say that is because of the color of their skin, there are clearly environmental and social factors but the stats are pretty negative.
If we're gonna use statistics and anecdotes then you have to look at them in context.

Most homicides with Black perpetrators have Black victims (same for whites, hispanics, etc - crime tends to be intra-racial not interracial). Black people are mostly only "dangerous" to other Black folks.

Moreover, the line of work these women engage in exposes them to considerable amounts of violence from men of all races. The specter of violence is omnipresent in sex work, singling out a group of men doesn't mitigate that risk, and potentially leads one to drop their guard around others and expose them to other risks.

Finally, that woman who was murdered was victimized by someone who was quite clearly psychotic - dude was homeless and screaming nonsense about God and judgement. Clearly not applicable to the typical monger.
 

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AA is 13% of the US population and is responsible for over 50% of US murders
I love math, but please put it in context. The difference between the black and white murder rate is 14%. Blacks are arrested at a rate 2.5 times more than other races and as much as 8 times more for the same crime. A lot of this traces back to historical factors (socioeconomic, other disparities, etc.) that contribute to what a rational person would consider poor judgement. I'll leave that to the statisticians and the sociologists. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OP'S DELIBERATELY PROVOCATIVE QUESTION.

While I can do calculus in my head, the average AMP girl or Indy can't. Stats are not what's driving their decisions. They get their information from wherever they do and it varies wildly by their education, foreign or domestic news source, Indy partner for doubles, or spa sister that told them who is good or who is bad.

The "No AA" topic comes up about 4 times per year. My thoughts on the answer are in this thread:
https://ampreviews.net/index.php?th...ime-no-aa-men-929-281-8332.46425/#post-374424

And before anyone gets banned, please read the site rules. Don't post something foolish after another person's trolling post on a thread started by a person that is bored and never posted on this board before.
 
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