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Why are there so many South Korean women in the US commercial sex industry?
- Thread starter Viptraveler
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Just another generic article pandering to the mainstream narrative. From my experience, such narrative is total nonsense. However, my experiences is obviously limited.
The mainstream narrative is as follows
And some girls come here, work 3 months, and then go back to Korea never to be heard from again. Perhaps those are the ones just wanting to pay off their debt.
One of the myths that gets to me is the "contracts" girls are forced to sign. The thing is, no country in this world would honor such a contract. Once again no country in this world would honor such a contract. It needs to be repeated because clearly some of you guys can't seem to understand such a simple concept. Putting things in writing is pointless since (A) it's not a contract any government in this world would enforce, and (B) it serves as evidence against criminal organizations. All a girl needs to do is to bring one of these "contracts" to the police, and these gangs will go away for a long time. Basically no written contract means the ability to negotiate (maybe deniability and leniency) with the legal system, and having a written contract means maximum prison term.
And, by the way, if a girl brings such an evidence to law enforcement, they would thank her profusely, give her victim status and all the requisite benefits, and we'll never hear the end of it from the news outlets. People really don't seem to comprehend how valuable this "golden piece of evidence" would be to both LE and the news media. They've been dreaming of something like this so bad for so long. But, instead, what have we seen? Girls looking for another org immediately after their org gets busted. Why do you think that is?
Ever heard of Ganam style? The entire song is about keeping up with the rich lifestyle of the Gangnam district, despite one's personal finances.
The mainstream narrative is as follows
- Must label the women as trafficked and forced against their will
- Never never label the women as willing sex workers, that's a major major no-no. This, despite the fact that after a bust, the "rescued girls" would start looking for another org to work for the very next day
- To pay off their debt. Perhaps some started with debt, but most girls are clearly in it just for the money. Most girls take time off and go shopping whenever they feel like it.
And some girls come here, work 3 months, and then go back to Korea never to be heard from again. Perhaps those are the ones just wanting to pay off their debt.
One of the myths that gets to me is the "contracts" girls are forced to sign. The thing is, no country in this world would honor such a contract. Once again no country in this world would honor such a contract. It needs to be repeated because clearly some of you guys can't seem to understand such a simple concept. Putting things in writing is pointless since (A) it's not a contract any government in this world would enforce, and (B) it serves as evidence against criminal organizations. All a girl needs to do is to bring one of these "contracts" to the police, and these gangs will go away for a long time. Basically no written contract means the ability to negotiate (maybe deniability and leniency) with the legal system, and having a written contract means maximum prison term.
And, by the way, if a girl brings such an evidence to law enforcement, they would thank her profusely, give her victim status and all the requisite benefits, and we'll never hear the end of it from the news outlets. People really don't seem to comprehend how valuable this "golden piece of evidence" would be to both LE and the news media. They've been dreaming of something like this so bad for so long. But, instead, what have we seen? Girls looking for another org immediately after their org gets busted. Why do you think that is?
Ever heard of Ganam style? The entire song is about keeping up with the rich lifestyle of the Gangnam district, despite one's personal finances.
You'd be surprised. Many of the North Koreans went to China first, got married, had kids, made their way to South Korea, and then went to the US for work. Only going by the "real data" and the forums, you won't be able to verify this. But from actually getting to know them beyond just in the work environment, you'll get all the stories that go beyond what you see.
You are making the same mistake most mongers make when estimating income.
1) You assume they are independent, which means they will pay for their own apartment, own supplies, and only have PO fees (i.e. $30 or so per booking). In reality, if they are under an org, the org takes much more than that.
2) 250 days a year? While most South Koreans will complain that the North Koreans never take breaks, there is still that time of the month, unless they are taking pills to prevent that as well, but usually, vacations are still present.
3) You are really only considering the popular ones to assume they can get 8 customers a day for those "250 days a year". Yes, many of the popular girls can get an average of 8 somewhat regularly, but there are always slow times out of the year, and that goes for just about everyone.
Still, yes, most make a decent amount of money. It's how they choose to spend it (most still have very little to show for it even after years of work).
1) You assume they are independent, which means they will pay for their own apartment, own supplies, and only have PO fees (i.e. $30 or so per booking). In reality, if they are under an org, the org takes much more than that.
2) 250 days a year? While most South Koreans will complain that the North Koreans never take breaks, there is still that time of the month, unless they are taking pills to prevent that as well, but usually, vacations are still present.
3) You are really only considering the popular ones to assume they can get 8 customers a day for those "250 days a year". Yes, many of the popular girls can get an average of 8 somewhat regularly, but there are always slow times out of the year, and that goes for just about everyone.
Still, yes, most make a decent amount of money. It's how they choose to spend it (most still have very little to show for it even after years of work).
Totally agree..
- the mainstream narrative is always BS
- Regarding contract, I don't think there's actual hard contract for girls going to US, but to other country for sure there's contract because the company needs to secure them legally according the actual law of the country.
However the Korg in US can always push soft contract or commitment, and if the pressure is too hard the girl may choose to leave. Ever see a girl that's suddenly running away ? Most of them are having trouble with the PO (if not the customer).
- the mainstream narrative is always BS
- Regarding contract, I don't think there's actual hard contract for girls going to US, but to other country for sure there's contract because the company needs to secure them legally according the actual law of the country.
However the Korg in US can always push soft contract or commitment, and if the pressure is too hard the girl may choose to leave. Ever see a girl that's suddenly running away ? Most of them are having trouble with the PO (if not the customer).
This.
Lifestyle pressure and competition.
All of them wants Dior bag but to be able to buy Dior either they have to be successful in business or career woman. South Korea is very competitive (other Asian country too) but since there's not much alternative (like in US if you can no longer competitive in Silicon Valley you can always move to Idaho or Ohio) and culture is pretty much less taboo with sex work, they are going for escorting.
Some of the girls I noticed very good in managing money but some are really
The Kgirl is impressive. They're not just uniquely beautiful but also very friendly and talkative. There's something peculiar about them. They can just keep talking continuously and make the whole session feels less than business transaction. Most of the times they already know our name and nationality from PO. Sometimes I'm wondering why they're so good ? Are all k women are just like this ? the men in korea are very lucky then hahaha....
Lifestyle pressure and competition.
All of them wants Dior bag but to be able to buy Dior either they have to be successful in business or career woman. South Korea is very competitive (other Asian country too) but since there's not much alternative (like in US if you can no longer competitive in Silicon Valley you can always move to Idaho or Ohio) and culture is pretty much less taboo with sex work, they are going for escorting.
Some of the girls I noticed very good in managing money but some are really
The Kgirl is impressive. They're not just uniquely beautiful but also very friendly and talkative. There's something peculiar about them. They can just keep talking continuously and make the whole session feels less than business transaction. Most of the times they already know our name and nationality from PO. Sometimes I'm wondering why they're so good ? Are all k women are just like this ? the men in korea are very lucky then hahaha....
My ATF Korean girl is beyond awesome! Told her a few things about me and she remembers them as if I told her yesterday, I swear her mind is like a computer. Needless to say super wonderful personality, our sessions are full of fun and exciting as if I'm visiting my best good friend! Hot dam I love this hobby lol