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What's with the extra tipping lately?
- Thread starter SilkSpritesR4me
- Start date
I already said that i am very aware of market rate, and what i pay which is often above market. I've said for me it works and i'm happy with it. I feel it gets me better sessions, and it also pretty much guarantees that if I call for an appmt at a spa/agency/Indie that i am a regular at, I will get the appointment at a time when I want to go, even if it means that YOU get bumped to a lesser girl. Maybe you might not believe it, doesnt matter to me. But its how the whole world works. You go into a busy nightclub, buy a beer, give the guy a buck. I go into the same place - give the guy a 20 and walk away with my beer. who gets remembered the next time they come to the bar? Girls are the same. It pretty much works all the time for me, and I dont mind a little extra money in order to get the girl i want, when I want. What you call a simp, is what i call practical smart business.
Its also not really true what you said about this being a buyers market. The best providers always get to choose their customers. How often do people post here about wanting to see a girl but they cant get on their schedule? know why? because someone else leveraged better connections to get those scarce apptmts. Its like any business. like contractors. the best carpenters are always busy. the medium quality ones hold their price and stay pretty busy, and the bad ones (or in the girl business - the middle aged ones) scramble and cut rates to get business. Personally, i like to see the best ones.
Its also not really true what you said about this being a buyers market. The best providers always get to choose their customers. How often do people post here about wanting to see a girl but they cant get on their schedule? know why? because someone else leveraged better connections to get those scarce apptmts. Its like any business. like contractors. the best carpenters are always busy. the medium quality ones hold their price and stay pretty busy, and the bad ones (or in the girl business - the middle aged ones) scramble and cut rates to get business. Personally, i like to see the best ones.
Ok i respect this answer. Yes you prob would get first dibs but guess what you also assumed i was complaining about a past event. I wasnt at all i was stating that some guys on this tip for the hell of it and not for preference. Actually another member here stated the same thing no one called him out. Im outspoken on behalf of holding providers responsible when we spend our money but i guess this is heavily biased to favor providers in this forum. Esp the members here that are biased against me. Also note i never referenced any of u guys. U guys wanted to make ur opinion known to me. I apologize for calling u a simp but u also assumed something about me which never happened. Hell i dont even monger enough for me to get “bumped down”
IMO you shouldn't say something online that you wouldn't say in person. Calling someone a simp in a bar is basically going to cause a fight. at least assuming that the guy isnt a real simp.
there's a million ways to practice this hobby. I'd never call someone a simp for paying more money than me. he could have totally good reasons.
but then of course there are guys that fall in love with a certain provider and end up dumping thousands into her. thats a very common topic on this site, this falling in love with a provider. but you seemed to be saying that guys just piss away money randomly on many girls without a plan. I dont think that happens much.
I'm biased, but i think the guy that overpays some to get attention and better service is playing the game. there's other guys that use charm, looks, sexual skill to drive that same advantage. And yet other guys that drive a hard line on price and think they get good value. Nobody is wrong.
what is wrong is to tell everyone they are stupid, unless they do it your way. the idea here is to share ideas and intelligence to improve everyones outcomes.
I didnt know who you were when you posted, so i cant be biased against you. I just reacted to you calling people simps.
there's a million ways to practice this hobby. I'd never call someone a simp for paying more money than me. he could have totally good reasons.
but then of course there are guys that fall in love with a certain provider and end up dumping thousands into her. thats a very common topic on this site, this falling in love with a provider. but you seemed to be saying that guys just piss away money randomly on many girls without a plan. I dont think that happens much.
I'm biased, but i think the guy that overpays some to get attention and better service is playing the game. there's other guys that use charm, looks, sexual skill to drive that same advantage. And yet other guys that drive a hard line on price and think they get good value. Nobody is wrong.
what is wrong is to tell everyone they are stupid, unless they do it your way. the idea here is to share ideas and intelligence to improve everyones outcomes.
I didnt know who you were when you posted, so i cant be biased against you. I just reacted to you calling people simps.
I’m glad this thread is up. Need some opinion.
I tip around 40-100 often for good service and expectation that next time she will up their service with me but I notice when I tip agency girls they tend to not care like the next time I see them the service was either the same or worst but when I tip indy and amp girls they tend to remember and give better service when I see them again. Like example I tip Sara nyaw and she was really appreciative and even though I didn’t see her for 2+ months she remembered me and showed me a great time.
any idea or is it just me thinking too much like they know the agency have clients?
I tip around 40-100 often for good service and expectation that next time she will up their service with me but I notice when I tip agency girls they tend to not care like the next time I see them the service was either the same or worst but when I tip indy and amp girls they tend to remember and give better service when I see them again. Like example I tip Sara nyaw and she was really appreciative and even though I didn’t see her for 2+ months she remembered me and showed me a great time.
any idea or is it just me thinking too much like they know the agency have clients?
If u look in my original post to OP i said “some guys not all” so im not understanding why you think i addressed you? Anyways sure it doesnt matter to me if people pay extra im just saying most often than not they remember you from being a repeat client. Anything u tip on top is on YOU. Sure u might get her “best” but if shes a professional u dont have to worry abt quality of service. If she starts slacking off u can always move on to a new provider. Many fish in the sea.
For me tipping spa girls extra pays the best dividend. It seems to always tap into better service and more services. And of course a little something to the MMS helps scheduling.
Tipping extra to agency girls helps less, but still has impact.
But for Indys it's always an enigma. Indy's are just completely unpredictable to me. Sessions erratic, difficult to consistently motivate, etc. But the upside of tying into a real good one keep me trying.
I'm the kind guy who keeps 4-5 girls in a regular rotation and goes out 2-3 times a week. Try something new every two weeks or so. But I drop indys and move on faster because of this unpredictable behavior.
But anyway the other thing I see is that this last year has been unconditionally awesome, as the epidemic scared lots of customers away. Easily it's been the best year of the 15 or so I've been doing this for service regardless.
Tipping extra to agency girls helps less, but still has impact.
But for Indys it's always an enigma. Indy's are just completely unpredictable to me. Sessions erratic, difficult to consistently motivate, etc. But the upside of tying into a real good one keep me trying.
I'm the kind guy who keeps 4-5 girls in a regular rotation and goes out 2-3 times a week. Try something new every two weeks or so. But I drop indys and move on faster because of this unpredictable behavior.
But anyway the other thing I see is that this last year has been unconditionally awesome, as the epidemic scared lots of customers away. Easily it's been the best year of the 15 or so I've been doing this for service regardless.
What a great thread. I’m not going to say what I do or don’t do. It’s not about that. More what this is about, is about thinking. I’d like to offer some variety of opinion & spur some thought.
OP is getting beat up. It’s not what you say, but how you say it. That said, perhaps he came off harsh. But, he offers some validity. So many guys think that a provider will remember him if he tips. I have news: you think she will. But, you will have to go back an awful lot for her to remember you. Or, give an awfully big tip. And even then…. Be realistic. She is not dreaming of your brown eyes and pimply back. You might have to look awfully unique. The same monger with a stunning charm, respectful attitude, nice presentation may be remembered before the high rolling tipper. Especially if he shows up more to the spa than you & does not tip. The amount of new faces a provider sees is incredible.
I know this and support OP because I’ve left tips of $500 for providers & within 2 weeks, “Been here before honey?” Was I upset? No, because in the moment I tipped, I had a reason for doing so. And, hopefully it was paid forward. I’m sure there are mongers on here that was tipped way more than me in one shot and in total. You all are on some stupid b/s though if you think they will pull out a red carpet each time you walk in. Or, give you some 4-hand crazy freak show. No, cuzzin, you have to earn that. And in life, respect and trust is earned with a little more then just a dollar sign. Well, don’t get me flat out wrong, it is a business…
Second of all, I’d also like to tell the OP there are tons of mongers attesting to tipping on here, and tons silent who do not tip. Whatever you do… who really cares? If you hobby and have fun, then most certainly keep doing so.
OP is getting beat up. It’s not what you say, but how you say it. That said, perhaps he came off harsh. But, he offers some validity. So many guys think that a provider will remember him if he tips. I have news: you think she will. But, you will have to go back an awful lot for her to remember you. Or, give an awfully big tip. And even then…. Be realistic. She is not dreaming of your brown eyes and pimply back. You might have to look awfully unique. The same monger with a stunning charm, respectful attitude, nice presentation may be remembered before the high rolling tipper. Especially if he shows up more to the spa than you & does not tip. The amount of new faces a provider sees is incredible.
I know this and support OP because I’ve left tips of $500 for providers & within 2 weeks, “Been here before honey?” Was I upset? No, because in the moment I tipped, I had a reason for doing so. And, hopefully it was paid forward. I’m sure there are mongers on here that was tipped way more than me in one shot and in total. You all are on some stupid b/s though if you think they will pull out a red carpet each time you walk in. Or, give you some 4-hand crazy freak show. No, cuzzin, you have to earn that. And in life, respect and trust is earned with a little more then just a dollar sign. Well, don’t get me flat out wrong, it is a business…
Second of all, I’d also like to tell the OP there are tons of mongers attesting to tipping on here, and tons silent who do not tip. Whatever you do… who really cares? If you hobby and have fun, then most certainly keep doing so.
The most I ever tip was $ and guess what she forgot who I was within the same week and service went down. Another I tip .6 and she went away for 2 weeks and she forgot who I was even though she gave me her number and many more. Amp girls have a bit better memory but I have also tip a girl $ and the next session was average but she seems like she remember me the moment she came in. Worst if you tip them and they
made a complaint on you
So long story short I am selective in tipping. Last girl I saw I went cim twice and her altitude so I tip her even though I do not plan to repeat anytime soon.
made a complaint on you
So long story short I am selective in tipping. Last girl I saw I went cim twice and her altitude so I tip her even though I do not plan to repeat anytime soon.
Slim hits the nail on the head.
As to the guy saying “everyone got rich during the pandemic” yeah if you already had a decent amount of discretionary capital and little to no REAL overhead or obligations. And if you could continue to work from home with none of the expenses associated that aren’t tax deductible- sure.
There are a lot of us not in that boat.
As slim puts it, there’s a certain level as to how this works, agency and AMP girls usually get AT BEST 70% of their hourly. And most of these bookers are running them through the wringer. Throwing them an extra 20 isn’t the end of the world. Throwing an extra Buck on top is killing it for the rest of us particularly if they are shitty service. They know what’s expected of them and if they think that it shouldn’t be incorporated into the actual date then it’s time to find a way to do SS for 125 where you handle your booking and incall yourself.
Indies as mentioned keep the whole haul. So if you are tipping them you’re literally giving them free money for no reason.
And if you’re good looking, single, wealthy, and have a huge cock just get an SB it’s probably easier and cheaper in the long run as there’s no worry about keeping your stories straight and being out and about in public.
As to the guy saying “everyone got rich during the pandemic” yeah if you already had a decent amount of discretionary capital and little to no REAL overhead or obligations. And if you could continue to work from home with none of the expenses associated that aren’t tax deductible- sure.
There are a lot of us not in that boat.
As slim puts it, there’s a certain level as to how this works, agency and AMP girls usually get AT BEST 70% of their hourly. And most of these bookers are running them through the wringer. Throwing them an extra 20 isn’t the end of the world. Throwing an extra Buck on top is killing it for the rest of us particularly if they are shitty service. They know what’s expected of them and if they think that it shouldn’t be incorporated into the actual date then it’s time to find a way to do SS for 125 where you handle your booking and incall yourself.
Indies as mentioned keep the whole haul. So if you are tipping them you’re literally giving them free money for no reason.
And if you’re good looking, single, wealthy, and have a huge cock just get an SB it’s probably easier and cheaper in the long run as there’s no worry about keeping your stories straight and being out and about in public.