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The Japanese Way

krideynyc

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With the recent shift towards decriminalization of sexual workers. And the resulting pushback. I was wondering if the Japanese model would be a good compromise. In Japan prostitution is illegal. However, prostitution is classified strictly as straight sex (penis to vaginal penetration). Which means HJ, Oral, and Anal are technically legal (and have been in terms of zero prosecution). This would legalize the R&T places, and could create BJ Bars like they have in Thailand.

Would that be enough, or would you push for totally unrestricted?
 

VJLUTZ

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I think half measures are almost pointless.

It is almost inevitable that FS takes place in an R&T place. Especially if the massage rooms have doors. While I stay away from strip clubs, I'm sure a lot of illegal acts are performed in the VIP rooms.

Besides, with their pixilated penises and vaginas, it takes the fun out of FS in Japan anyway. No wonder their birthrate is falling.
 

krideynyc

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Besides, with their pixilated penises and vaginas, it takes the fun out of FS in Japan anyway. No wonder their birthrate is falling.
You can blame Gen. Douglas MacArthur for the pixillation. He wrote the Indecency Laws after we took over from WWII and it stuck.
 

VJLUTZ

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You can blame Gen. Douglas MacArthur for the pixillation. He wrote the Indecency Laws after we took over from WWII and it stuck.
Well, they've been sovereign since 1955. If they can't change their low-level laws after all this time, it's their own damn fault. Beside, BJ bars sound pretty indecent to me. But then Japan is full of paradoxes. Never been there, but you can tell from watching Japanese porn. They have a weird fetish about fucking their best friend's wives behind their backs. Contrast that with the vaunted Japanese principles of honor and harmony.
 

krideynyc

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Well, they've been sovereign since 1955. If they can't change their low-level laws after all this time, it's their own damn fault.
True. The people like the setup and don't see a need to change the law. They do have advocates that argue that porn should be covered under freedom of expression like the US. But just to end that side of the discussion, going the Japanese way only applies to physical sex work. It won't start pixilating your porn.
 

VJLUTZ

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But just to end that side of the discussion, going the Japanese way only applies to physical sex work. It won't start pixilating your porn.
I never said it did (or would). Only brought up the pixilation to be humorous. As for them "liking the setup", that's hard to believe. Some of the people who complain about it most (on these sites) are the Japanese. Again, from their porn, its clear they have a very sexualized culture compared to their Asian neighbors. I don't even think the Chinese or Koreans make porn movies (at least not the Chinese) To me, the pixilation thing is so nonsensical, it boggles the mind that they can't muster the initiative to change it.
 

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At least sex is clearly defined in Japanese Law. How does American law even definite sex any way? Its up to their interpretation meaning they can get you for anything.
 

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Japan is a really weird country for sex. In my experience there (limited, but at least a couple months of elapsed time across multiple visits):

1. prostitution is technically illegal but never enforced. not much different than other asian countries, or england IMO.
2. there are shops that say they do BJ and anal to be strictly legal. but they do vaginal too. the only real plus there is that if you truely want anal, its on the menu in these shops. the girls arent near as pretty as the escorts though.
3. some of these other shops go from the bland to the downright creepy. for instance, there's conversation shops, where you can have a conversation with a girl, drink some tea, etc. sounds nice huh? Now put the girl in a high school uniform, or something even more babylike. then make the girl barely 18. then put a room in the back where guys can go for a few minutes, watch porn of girls in similar outfits getting fucked, jerk off, and then return to the front room and have another cup of tea.
4. there's street vending machines where you can buy used teenage girl panties. out in the open, in the street.
5. theres tons of manga and comic books that deal in teenage girls being kidnapped and raped, on sale in the subway stations.

sorry, but i wouldnt want to emulate japan in this regard.

I stick to escorts when I go to Japan. Its hard enough to get good girls, because the best ones arent allowed to service westerners, because japanese men dont like to touch a girl who has been fouled by a western man.

But better yet i go to other countries, where the people arent so racist and weird about young girls.
 

krideynyc

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At least sex is clearly defined in Japanese Law. How does American law even definite sex any way? Its up to their interpretation meaning they can get you for anything.
Basically. But in the US, it's mostly solicitation (discussing the price). As it's harder to prove the sex was not consensual.
 

krideynyc

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2. there are shops that say they do BJ and anal to be strictly legal. but they do vaginal too.
This is what I think could be a problem here in the US. In that how can you enforce just that one act without invading privacy?
sorry, but i wouldnt want to emulate japan in this regard.
I doubt we would. Most that is cultural, not necessarily the result of how the law is defined.
 

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With the recent shift towards decriminalization of sexual workers. And the resulting pushback. I was wondering if the Japanese model would be a good compromise. In Japan prostitution is illegal. However, prostitution is classified strictly as straight sex (penis to vaginal penetration). Which means HJ, Oral, and Anal are technically legal (and have been in terms of zero prosecution). This would legalize the R&T places, and could create BJ Bars like they have in Thailand.

Would that be enough, or would you push for totally unrestricted?
Totally decriminalized and unrestricted. Cops should be chasing after street gangs and violent criminals. Not girls who need money and guys who need tight young poon.
 

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In the US the whole rationale of criminalizing sex is about trafficking, it has proven unsuccessful, decriminalize it all the way and focus on trafficking, every decent monger will report suspicion of trafficking and sex slavery if prostitution itself is legal
 

krideynyc

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Totally decriminalized and unrestricted. Cops should be chasing after street gangs and violent criminals. Not girls who need money and guys who need tight young poon.
Those are what Vice Squads go after only if it involved drugs. But they would still have more time with the other aspects of Vice, like Illegal Gambling with this version of legalization.
In the US the whole rationale of criminalizing sex is about trafficking, it has proven unsuccessful, decriminalize it all the way and focus on trafficking, every decent monger will report suspicion of trafficking and sex slavery if prostitution itself is legal
Trafficking is the current focus. Used to be what's known as "Moral Turpitude". I do like the idea that mongers can look out for the profession like trafficking or underage providers. Might even solve the FS issue mentioned above.
 

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In the US the whole rationale of criminalizing sex is about trafficking, it has proven unsuccessful, decriminalize it all the way and focus on trafficking, every decent monger will report suspicion of trafficking and sex slavery if prostitution itself is legal
This is the sane and rational thing to do, but unfortunately there are too many moralists who are shocked if other people have consensual enjoyment their preacher tells them they should be shocked about.
 

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This is the sane and rational thing to do, but unfortunately there are too many moralists who are shocked if other people have consensual enjoyment their preacher tells them they should be shocked about.
Fire and Brimstone, bible thumping Preacher.
Or Gloria Steinem man-hating feminist guru.
Both those types and their followers hate what we do.
 

krideynyc

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This is the sane and rational thing to do, but unfortunately there are too many moralists who are shocked if other people have consensual enjoyment their preacher tells them they should be shocked about.
Who did you think started the whole "Moral Turpitude" BS. Even got an Amendment passed that was so unpopular, and made so many criminals rich, that it was repealed with another Amendment.
 
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