Some tips from a long time monger

[leque33]

Hi all. I do my best to review and comment when I can, either here on on usasexguide or BestGFE. I've posted reviews, but I've also done a lot of what I consider my "civic duty" of warning others when I come across an absolute shitshow of a provider. Over the years, I've gotten better at reading between the lines and my happiness with providers has risen greatly. I want to share some of those tips with you.

• Visit your favorite provider site every day. When you're ready to pull the trigger, you'll have an idea of who has been around for a while and what ads are new. You'll also avoid being tempted by especially racy photos and text, as you'll have read and seen it all. You'll also start to notice that agencies and scammers basically follow a template in their ads, and you'll get a bit of a "spider sense" for when something isn't right. With regards to Spas, the next time I show up and the provider in the ad is the one that answers the door will be the first time, but I digress. IN GENERAL, if the ad shows pleasant looking girls headshots=rub and tug. Lingerie=probably rub and tug. Sexy, barely dressed or censored nudity=most likely extras available.
• Visit AMPReviews, usasexguide, BestGFE every day. I'm on all 3, and between the reviews and the forums, this site is the best, with usasexguide a solid second. BestGFE doesn't get a lot of traffic these days, sadly. Stopping by each day for a few minutes means you're always caught up with the reviews. It will also put in the back of your mind who is good and who is bad, so when you're scrolling ads and thinking with the little head, you've again got a little voice in the back of your big head telling you that while she looks good, there are a TON of bad reviews. No reviews isn't necessarily a bad thing. People tend to review when they feel they've been treated exceptionally, or poorly. In between, in that area where you feel like you got what you paid for, there isn't a lot of motivation to sit down and write. We're all guilty of this... it's human nature, whether it's providers, restaurants, video games, whatever. Good reviews and bad reviews are because someone felt the experience was worth their time to inform others about. Pay attention
• Look at ads critically. There is a provider that has threads here that uses the words "attention to detail" in her heading, but in her main profile photo, there is trash on the floor in the background. I'm not saying she has to have the houskeeping skills of a 50's housewife, but don't advertise your attention to detail while paying no attention to detail. Also look at the pics. Are they out of focus? weird angles? It's 2022. Every phone on the planet has the capability to take an award-winning picture in the right hands. If she can't manage a half decent in focus pic, or it's got the resolution of an AOL Instant Messenger profile pic from 1994, there is a reason. I visited a girl a few years ago who posted close ups of her face (from that high angle to hide the chins) and her tits. When I got there to see her, her body was an absolute train wreck. We all have our likes and dislikes. If you're 5'10 and 250lbs, someone is into that. If she's trying to fool you in her ad, don't expect her to magically transform to a willing, eager provider when she see the wad of bills in your hand. If anything, it will be the opposite. Bottom line: If she's hiding something in the pics, it's because she's hiding something. Also, if EVERY picture has some stupid snap chat filter on it, move on. Trust me.
• When I contact a provider, I do so a bit before I'm ready to see her. So if I'm going to be in her area at 4pm, I'll text her around noon. I am very clear about this... don't be a dick and tell her you are ready right now when you are not. But texting "are you available around 5?" gets the conversation started, and you will at least get a feel for if she is organized and answers texts (in general a VERY good sign) or scatter brained and couldn't be bothered. This one isn't 100%... she may not answer because she is busy with a client, or isn't working during the hours you texted, but if she's shitty to you, you know to move on. If she's accomodating and talkative, I usually make an appointment for the later time (AND KEEP IT. If enough people dick them around, they will stop engaging these types of texts. Don't waste their time.) When you contact an AMP, it's the opposite... be ready to go NOW, especially if you want to make an appointment with a specific provider.
• WRITE REVIEWS. It's the purpose of the site, after all. You will build clout in the community, so people will be more willing to answer your questions, and you'll also be able to read the private details in other people's reviews. Not only that, but the more reviews there are, the more the people who don't review will be willing the pay to read our reviews, and in the long run, the site will be better for us AND the owners. I don't know if they care if the site breaks even or profits, but they definitely care that it's at least paying for itself and their time. If you like the site, support it one way or another or there will come a day when it's gone.

 

[leque33]

A few things to that didn't quite fit the theme of the main post, but are equally important...

• Don't text from your main. Get a burner phone. Get a Google Voice account (and set notifications off). Just don't use your main number. One more time: DONT. USE. YOUR. MAIN. NUMBER.
• Use a separate browser. My Chrome bookmarks are about my hobbies, my likes, you name it. If my GF, kids or mother saw my Chrome bookmarks, they wouldn't bat an eye. Now, if they saw my Firefox bookmarks... HO LEE SHIT. I would have some 'splainin to do. There are Chrome shortcuts on all my devices. You have to open menus to get to Firefox, and then you have to sign in.
• NEVER send a deposit. No matter how much she begs, no matter how hot she (or her pics) looks. Just don't do it. I've had a girl I saw multiple times ask me for money. Not a lot... I think it was $40 to pay her phone. She was always attentive, never shorted me on time, just a good one to have in the stable. I used cash to buy her a prepaid phone card, then texted her the code (DO NOT DOX YOURSELF) because I felt she genuinely needed it. I didn't expect to ever see it again, and I didn't expect anything from it. I did it because I had spent some time with her, and she had always treated me well, and because she just asked for it. Didn't promise anything. I considered it a tip. I would have done the same thing for the waitress at my local bar. That's different. Some girls will text you asking for money after you've seen them ONCE, 4 months ago. Don't do THAT either. If she's your go-to, and you've seen her a handful of times, use your discretion. About 8 years ago, I got shorted on time and service. The girl said she would make it up to me next time. When next time came, she pretended not to remember. I showed her her texts. She then flat out refused to "make it up to me" I left and never visited her again, and I'll never "barter" again. If you send a girl money, consider it gone.
• Don't wear the shirt with the name of your favorite bar. Or your local band. Or your job. Chances are she won't notice/doesn't care, but again, don't dox yourself. It's okay to tell her you play Call of Duty. Millions of people do. There's only 8 people on the darts team of Bob's Tavern and Ale House... leave that shirt at home. Or carry an extra, plain t-shirt in the trunk at all times. This isn't a bad idea whether you're mongering or not. You're gonna get pizza sauce on you some day, no matter how careful you are. Obviously this goes for all of your encounter. Talk about home improvement, video games, shopping, whatever. But don't let the small talk wander into any niche interests you have. You may not think it's a big deal to tell her about the cool vape store a mile from your house, but you've just given away where you live. "15 minutes from Philly" or "Down by the shore" is specific enough, and covers a LOT of area while still feeling like an "answer" to "where are you coming from"
• Never take more than you need into a session. Leave your wallet in the car. Some say to leave your phone... I say you may need it in an emergency. I see both sides of that discussion, so make your own decision. But if she quotes $150, don't walk in there with $700 in your pocket. Walk in with $150, maybe $200 so you can tip if she's really good. This saves you from overspending AND getting robbed of all your money. On a related note, I always arrive early and case the location. Any sketchy people around? LE? If possible, I'll park across the street or a few doors down at a pizza place of fast food joint.

 

[ASHP585]

Excellent post.

 

[123nwnj]

Great info especially for new guys. One additional suggestion is to use incognito or private mode when searching - history isn't stored when you're done.

 

[incendiesowldorothy]

Great read

 

[leque33]

Some other observations: There are a few women I see semi regularly (a few times a year). When they post, they post once a day, maybe twice. If she’s posting every 30 minutes (I’m looking at you with the blue dress and the black bar hiding your eyes) she’s either a scammer, or she’s burned so many people that she has no return customers. If she’s good, and people want to see her again or share a good review, a couple of posts 12 hrs apart will have her booked for the day.

 

[scottydoesntknoq]

Not all heroes wear capes…*Nods with approval*

 

[Brianclydesdale]

A few things to that didn't quite fit the theme of the main post, but are equally important...

• Don't text from your main. Get a burner phone. Get a Google Voice account (and set notifications off). Just don't use your main number. One more time: DONT. USE. YOUR. MAIN. NUMBER.
• Use a separate browser. My Chrome bookmarks are about my hobbies, my likes, you name it. If my GF, kids or mother saw my Chrome bookmarks, they wouldn't bat an eye. Now, if they saw my Firefox bookmarks... HO LEE SHIT. I would have some 'splainin to do. There are Chrome shortcuts on all my devices. You have to open menus to get to Firefox, and then you have to sign in.
• NEVER send a deposit. No matter how much she begs, no matter how hot she (or her pics) looks. Just don't do it. I've had a girl I saw multiple times ask me for money. Not a lot... I think it was $40 to pay her phone. She was always attentive, never shorted me on time, just a good one to have in the stable. I used cash to buy her a prepaid phone card, then texted her the code (DO NOT DOX YOURSELF) because I felt she genuinely needed it. I didn't expect to ever see it again, and I didn't expect anything from it. I did it because I had spent some time with her, and she had always treated me well, and because she just asked for it. Didn't promise anything. I considered it a tip. I would have done the same thing for the waitress at my local bar. That's different. Some girls will text you asking for money after you've seen them ONCE, 4 months ago. Don't do THAT either. If she's your go-to, and you've seen her a handful of times, use your discretion. About 8 years ago, I got shorted on time and service. The girl said she would make it up to me next time. When next time came, she pretended not to remember. I showed her her texts. She then flat out refused to "make it up to me" I left and never visited her again, and I'll never "barter" again. If you send a girl money, consider it gone.
• Don't wear the shirt with the name of your favorite bar. Or your local band. Or your job. Chances are she won't notice/doesn't care, but again, don't dox yourself. It's okay to tell her you play Call of Duty. Millions of people do. There's only 8 people on the darts team of Bob's Tavern and Ale House... leave that shirt at home. Or carry an extra, plain t-shirt in the trunk at all times. This isn't a bad idea whether you're mongering or not. You're gonna get pizza sauce on you some day, no matter how careful you are. Obviously this goes for all of your encounter. Talk about home improvement, video games, shopping, whatever. But don't let the small talk wander into any niche interests you have. You may not think it's a big deal to tell her about the cool vape store a mile from your house, but you've just given away where you live. "15 minutes from Philly" or "Down by the shore" is specific enough, and covers a LOT of area while still feeling like an "answer" to "where are you coming from"
• Never take more than you need into a session. Leave your wallet in the car. Some say to leave your phone... I say you may need it in an emergency. I see both sides of that discussion, so make your own decision. But if she quotes $150, don't walk in there with $700 in your pocket. Walk in with $150, maybe $200 so you can tip if she's really good. This saves you from overspending AND getting robbed of all your money. On a related note, I always arrive early and case the location. Any sketchy people around? LE? If possible, I'll park across the street or a few doors down at a pizza place of fast food joint.

Outstanding advice

 

[MJ743]

Genuine quality. Great post!

 

[Elngtmsg]

A few things to that didn't quite fit the theme of the main post, but are equally important...

• Don't text from your main. Get a burner phone. Get a Google Voice account (and set notifications off). Just don't use your main number. One more time: DONT. USE. YOUR. MAIN. NUMBER.
• Use a separate browser. My Chrome bookmarks are about my hobbies, my likes, you name it. If my GF, kids or mother saw my Chrome bookmarks, they wouldn't bat an eye. Now, if they saw my Firefox bookmarks... HO LEE SHIT. I would have some 'splainin to do. There are Chrome shortcuts on all my devices. You have to open menus to get to Firefox, and then you have to sign in.
• NEVER send a deposit. No matter how much she begs, no matter how hot she (or her pics) looks. Just don't do it. I've had a girl I saw multiple times ask me for money. Not a lot... I think it was $40 to pay her phone. She was always attentive, never shorted me on time, just a good one to have in the stable. I used cash to buy her a prepaid phone card, then texted her the code (DO NOT DOX YOURSELF) because I felt she genuinely needed it. I didn't expect to ever see it again, and I didn't expect anything from it. I did it because I had spent some time with her, and she had always treated me well, and because she just asked for it. Didn't promise anything. I considered it a tip. I would have done the same thing for the waitress at my local bar. That's different. Some girls will text you asking for money after you've seen them ONCE, 4 months ago. Don't do THAT either. If she's your go-to, and you've seen her a handful of times, use your discretion. About 8 years ago, I got shorted on time and service. The girl said she would make it up to me next time. When next time came, she pretended not to remember. I showed her her texts. She then flat out refused to "make it up to me" I left and never visited her again, and I'll never "barter" again. If you send a girl money, consider it gone.
• Don't wear the shirt with the name of your favorite bar. Or your local band. Or your job. Chances are she won't notice/doesn't care, but again, don't dox yourself. It's okay to tell her you play Call of Duty. Millions of people do. There's only 8 people on the darts team of Bob's Tavern and Ale House... leave that shirt at home. Or carry an extra, plain t-shirt in the trunk at all times. This isn't a bad idea whether you're mongering or not. You're gonna get pizza sauce on you some day, no matter how careful you are. Obviously this goes for all of your encounter. Talk about home improvement, video games, shopping, whatever. But don't let the small talk wander into any niche interests you have. You may not think it's a big deal to tell her about the cool vape store a mile from your house, but you've just given away where you live. "15 minutes from Philly" or "Down by the shore" is specific enough, and covers a LOT of area while still feeling like an "answer" to "where are you coming from"
• Never take more than you need into a session. Leave your wallet in the car. Some say to leave your phone... I say you may need it in an emergency. I see both sides of that discussion, so make your own decision. But if she quotes $150, don't walk in there with $700 in your pocket. Walk in with $150, maybe $200 so you can tip if she's really good. This saves you from overspending AND getting robbed of all your money. On a related note, I always arrive early and case the location. Any sketchy people around? LE? If possible, I'll park across the street or a few doors down at a pizza place of fast food joint.

Absolutely valuable tips! Thank you!

 

[phillydiscreetmale]

great post. some more tips:

• on a site like STG, if enlarging pics and they are the size of the thumbnail, someone downloaded the thumbnail and are using them (ie they didn't take the pic & stole it from the net)
• look for details in the ad. if they list their weight in KGs vs LBs. Do they list themselves as 5'11 and 160+ pounds yet their pics don't appear to represent that. Do they say "Downtown" No one in Philly calls Center City "Downtown".
• anyone who asks you to bring something like a bottle of wine to get into the door. If they do you are an easy target to be identified as you will have it in your hand when walking across the lot
• look for ads that do discriminate by race or age. it's illegal to specifically target a group of people by race, etc. Of course when you see "White Guys" only also brings its challenges.
• Stay away from any ad that says "Party Friendly." last thing you want to do is show up to a room filled with drugs or be the last one who sees a provider before they OD
• Stay away from ads that specifically mention “natural services” available. most ladies will do it anyway with the right donation but those who advertise it will have 40 guys lined up each day.
• never access sites like this from you home network (PC, phone, etc) unless you are using a VPN.
• Don't download a pic from an ad or post a photo of your action that you took without erasing the image meta data. Otherwise you may as well put your home address in the ad.
• Watch the hours of providers. most do not run a 8-5, 9-6 shift.
• Do not facetime verify, send pics of licenses, etc

 

[ivyleaman2]

I spend a lot of time between NJ and the upstate NY Albany area and usasexguide there is a complete shit show; good for laughs only. A2 as he is called who supposedly administers the site has let it get hijacked by some retarded fuck goes by bugleboy. A2 flags and kicks out members who complained while doing nothing about the cause,protecting him actually....I think A2 on the usasexguide is sucking his dick personally.

 

[leque33]

great post. some more tips:

• on a site like STG, if enlarging pics and they are the size of the thumbnail, someone downloaded the thumbnail and are using them (ie they didn't take the pic & stole it from the net)
• look for details in the ad. if they list their weight in KGs vs LBs. Do they list themselves as 5'11 and 160+ pounds yet their pics don't appear to represent that. Do they say "Downtown" No one in Philly calls Center City "Downtown".
• anyone who asks you to bring something like a bottle of wine to get into the door. If they do you are an easy target to be identified as you will have it in your hand when walking across the lot
• look for ads that do discriminate by race or age. it's illegal to specifically target a group of people by race, etc. Of course when you see "White Guys" only also brings its challenges.
• Stay away from any ad that says "Party Friendly." last thing you want to do is show up to a room filled with drugs or be the last one who sees a provider before they OD
• Stay away from ads that specifically mention “natural services” available. most ladies will do it anyway with the right donation but those who advertise it will have 40 guys lined up each day.
• never access sites like this from you home network (PC, phone, etc) unless you are using a VPN.
• Don't download a pic from an ad or post a photo of your action that you took without erasing the image meta data. Otherwise you may as well put your home address in the ad.
• Watch the hours of providers. most do not run a 8-5, 9-6 shift.
• Do not facetime verify, send pics of licenses, etc

Good stuf... especially the meta data tip. I ALWAYS scrub metadata before sending pics, or uploading almost anything.

 

[Wds]

Can you pm me on how to scrub the metadata on pictures.

 

[Jove21]

Very helpful

 

[phillydiscreetmale]

Can you pm me on how to scrub the metadata on pictures.

Google is your friend

 

[Minutemantogo]

Stat post indeed. I saw a few of the mistakes I made in my early year mongering that if I did more research that I could have avoided.

 

[topsin20]

Well done! Required reading for newbies & just plain helpful for the rest of us to see if there’s an area we’ve overlooked. Thank you.

 

[GarciaJ]

Great info, thank you. I’m still learning. Anyone ever been on a site called pleasingtime.com? IG girl through a dating site offering massage and what sounded like more. Almost pulled the trigger to make appt but got a bad feeling and bailed. What is the likelihood of those sites being scams?

 

[SJDude856]

Great info, thank you. I’m still learning. Anyone ever been on a site called pleasingtime.com? IG girl through a dating site offering massage and what sounded like more. Almost pulled the trigger to make appt but got a bad feeling and bailed. What is the likelihood of those sites being scams?

Upon a search it has come up as a scam.