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So Much For Human Trafficking

Freddy

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Sometimes it is good that the American public cannot stay focused on one thing very long. There is always a new shiny object to stare at. I agree things will cool off eventually, but there will be some losses, just like the last sweep that took out the whole 309 corridor. And adding hobbyists to the target list will change the way we proceed.

I'm waiting for some journalist to do an expose on how several non-profits are using the "human trafficking" hoax to get rich by pandering to politicians and Evangelicals.
Shiny object? Enter Michael Cohen, testified today, it’s all over the news.
 

xxxooz

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Sometimes it is good that the American public cannot stay focused on one thing very long. There is always a new shiny object to stare at. I agree things will cool off eventually, but there will be some losses, just like the last sweep that took out the whole 309 corridor. And adding hobbyists to the target list will change the way we proceed.

I'm waiting for some journalist to do an expose on how several non-profits are using the "human trafficking" hoax to get rich by pandering to politicians and Evangelicals.
Well said KG...The "public" has the attention span of a flea on a hot skillet... soooo! sad... but if you add Sex and Rich NFL owners to the mix, it may last a little longer...LOL... I'm not much for "conspiracy" BS but I'm suspicious that RK may have been targeted by LE for his support of Mr. T...LE is a very itricate web Politically...Just a thought...
 

kgirler

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Well said KG...The "public" has the attention span of a flea on a hot skillet... soooo! sad... but if you add Sex and Rich NFL owners to the mix, it may last a little longer...LOL... I'm not much for "conspiracy" BS but I'm suspicious that RK may have been targeted by LE for his support of Mr. T...LE is a very itricate web Politically...Just a thought...
One of the first thoughts that crossed my mind was RK being a friend of the President. Without getting political (a whole different diatribe) it occurs to me this would be an embarrassment to a lot of people and a way to garner a ton of attention to a situation that is not legitimately a problem.

Think about who benefits from this financially. It’s not politicians. They may use the idea of human trafficking to get votes and campaign contributions, but there are a lot of other ways to do that. Its not LE. They can use it to get attention and funding for their departments, but it does not personally enrich LE members. The ones who directly benefit financially from a drummed up human trafficking crisis are the “non-profit” organizations that will use this “crisis” to appeal to a million on-line small donors for contributions and to write grants for government partnerships to fight “human trafficking”. It is the administrators of the non-profits that pull in huge salaries who stand to benefit from creating a crisis out of thin air. Expect to see a flurry of spam asking for donations to fight the evil spa trade.

Remember, just follow the money.
 

customer10

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I never got the idea that any girl at any spa wasn't doing it willingly. All seemed to like the money. They make a lot more money doing this than working at some chinese restaurant or other place where they can work without speaking English. I think the girls make a bunch of money then go back to China.
 

TGBeldin

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Why is it that almost every one sees this as a one size fits all issue? I guess people see the version they want to see and ignore the rest. The majority posting here are basing universal "truths" on "I have a friend and I know her situation...." Sad.
 

jv50

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I don't know that most see it that way. Some do. Trafficking certainly exists and it is awful. But it is rare in brick and mortar AMPs.
 

njlefty

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If some AMP gals are so hot, why are they not independent providers earning more than a hundred thousand a year after expenses?

Instead they are sleeping on massage tables, getting ordered around by a mamasan, and swabbing the balls of ten old fucks a day.
 

Freddy

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How long have these Asian lovelies been coming to the US to work in massage parlors? 30, 40, 50 years? Probably longer. The offer to come here and earn good money to support whoever back in their home country and they are all deceived into what they'll actually be doing and yet do it so well, I for one don't buy all this forced into doing extras bit, I've yet to meet one that wasn't enthusiastic about giving extras and earning good tips. The news always reports that these women had no clue, give me a fooking break, has it or does it occur? I'm sure it does, trafficked that is, but most trafficked victims are US citizens handled by a low life pimp.
 

jv50

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If some AMP gals are so hot, why are they not independent providers earning more than a hundred thousand a year after expenses?

Instead they are sleeping on massage tables, getting ordered around by a mamasan, and swabbing the balls of ten old fucks a day.
Different girls; different reasons. Some don't like solo because they are afraid of working alone. Others because of the language barrier. It isn't unusual for a girl to go solo after some amount of time working in AMPs, but others just prefer to have someone else handling the logistics and they prefer having other people around and not being entirely alone in a hotel room or private home with some guy they know nothing about. And they can make good money anyway--tax free.
 

marauder1969

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Just read one of the most ridiculous, hypocritical quotes I've seen in a while...

"Currey said the other women were given the option of being treated as victims but chose instead to be charged with prostitution."

Is there a victim in other other circumstance that can be given the option to be treated as a victim, but if they refuse, they are punished instead?

I'm sorry that your house was broken into, but if you don't want to be the victim of this crime, we will charge you with negligence in maintaining a secure home....

It is such bullsh*t it makes me crazy. If the police really think they are victims, the idea of charging them with a crime as a backup plan would never even be a thought.

So, whether you agree they are victims or they are not, the police are spewing to the media a load of crap.... THAT is a fact.
 

Chiparlor

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And about getting spotlight attention at our expenses. These who charge the providers probably never took microeconomic and macroeconomic courses during their post-secondary studies.
 

kgmspa

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Just read one of the most ridiculous, hypocritical quotes I've seen in a while...

"Currey said the other women were given the option of being treated as victims but chose instead to be charged with prostitution."

Is there a victim in other other circumstance that can be given the option to be treated as a victim, but if they refuse, they are punished instead?

I'm sorry that your house was broken into, but if you don't want to be the victim of this crime, we will charge you with negligence in maintaining a secure home....

It is such bullsh*t it makes me crazy. If the police really think they are victims, the idea of charging them with a crime as a backup plan would never even be a thought.

So, whether you agree they are victims or they are not, the police are spewing to the media a load of crap.... THAT is a fact.
Every day every story. So much BS so little time
 

marauder1969

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Every day every story. So much BS so little time
I could probably wrap my head around that fact that the investigators see the women as trafficked. From what I know, I don't see it that way...

But the glaring hypocrisy is what kills me. If they truly saw the girls as victims, they couldn't possibly say shit like that. My guess, it all comes down to numbers. Proving the worth of the investigation. If you don't have a trafficking victim you can capture federal grant money with, turn it into an arrest to quantify the success of 6 months worth of work. They don't give a flying F*CK about the so-called victims.
 

Freddy

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Just read one of the most ridiculous, hypocritical quotes I've seen in a while...

"Currey said the other women were given the option of being treated as victims but chose instead to be charged with prostitution."

Is there a victim in other other circumstance that can be given the option to be treated as a victim, but if they refuse, they are punished instead?

I'm sorry that your house was broken into, but if you don't want to be the victim of this crime, we will charge you with negligence in maintaining a secure home....

It is such bullsh*t it makes me crazy. If the police really think they are victims, the idea of charging them with a crime as a backup plan would never even be a thought.

So, whether you agree they are victims or they are not, the police are spewing to the media a load of crap.... THAT is a fact.
I recall the initial breaking news report when Kraft was mentioned as a John, the LE speaker said he wished the women in the spa would have come aboard as “victims” instead of agreeing to sexual favors charges, if they were so called “trafficking victims” why didn’t LE rescue them as victims regardless? We all have a good idea why these women aren’t coming aboard as victims, because then the real exploitation begins, talk shows, news reporters etc, they will have committed industry suicide.
Same as when a low level drug dealer gets busted, LE would rather have the bigger fish, ain’t gonna happen, it’s not good for his health to give up the boss.
 

marauder1969

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I recall the initial breaking news report when Kraft was mentioned as a John, the LE speaker said he wished the women in the spa would have come aboard as “victims” instead of agreeing to sexual favors charges, if they were so called “trafficking victims” why didn’t LE rescue them as victims regardless? We all have a good idea why these women aren’t coming aboard as victims, because then the real exploitation begins, talk shows, news reporters etc, they will have committed industry suicide.
Same as when a low level drug dealer gets busted, LE would rather have the bigger fish, ain’t gonna happen, it’s not good for his health to give up the boss.
Except there is no "boss" in this situation. Most of the operations I know of are single store owners, although some own a couple. None of the owners report back to a "boss". Not saying it doesn't happen anywhere in any situation, but certainly not from what I've seen. The working girls are not "owned" or "operated" by anyone..... They respond to the need, wherever it might be when they are ready to work. They arrange their own transportation. They aren't "shuttled around from store to store" in some conspiracy.... They take time off when they want and work where they want.
 

kgmspa

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I could probably wrap my head around that fact that the investigators see the women as trafficked. From what I know, I don't see it that way...

But the glaring hypocrisy is what kills me. If they truly saw the girls as victims, they couldn't possibly say shit like that. My guess, it all comes down to numbers. Proving the worth of the investigation. If you don't have a trafficking victim you can capture federal grant money with, turn it into an arrest to quantify the success of 6 months worth of work. They don't give a flying F*CK about the so-called victims.
Yes, it is always about the money
 

East Lake II

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I never got the idea that any girl at any spa wasn't doing it willingly. All seemed to like the money. They make a lot more money doing this than working at some chinese restaurant or other place where they can work without speaking English. I think the girls make a bunch of money then go back to China.
They don't necessarily like it, but they sure like the income. Many will say, "what else can I do and make this kind of money".

There are more and more who come for a limited time, earn, leave the country and go to another country and then return. They don't want to overstay their Visa, they want the freedom of movement that allows them to come and go as they please.

If they are being trafficked, they are trafficking themselves.
 

Itslian

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I’m sure they just wanted to catch those big names... I’m sure the police who did this investigation will get fired for even attacking those high powered people... bad move on them.
I agreed their job is at stake and they should be fired. A lot of thought goes in this one high caliber people don't need this exposure and those responsible will be targeted just like the mafia bosses
 
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