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Review: Sexy Ukrainian & Uzbek - Elena
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"Own destiny to follow and own higher power to embrace"
Are you serious with this?
So what are his children or as he describes them his "damn kids"? Are they merely background characters in the heroic story of his personal destiny? Lol
And what exactly is the higher power he is trying to embrace?
Because is sounds like the only higher power he wants to embrace is the power to abandon his "damn kids" while avoiding child support! Lol
Abandoning your kids and asking someone else to do the same thing is not a "destiny". And not wanting to pay child support for the children you abandoned is not a "higher power". Lol
And the fact that he didn't immediately see that but instead wrote as if the tragedy is his "lost love" and not how he views his children or that he asked a woman he claims to love to give up her children or lose him, is self indulgent to the point of ridiculousness. Lol
What OP describes are the small selfish wants of a man who sees his children as "damn kids", asked a mother to abandon her children because he doesn't want the bother of raising them, and is only choosing not to abandon his own "damn kids" because he doesn't want to pay child support.
The fact that he wraps his smallness and selfishness in a story of "lost love" just adds a layer of ridiculous self dillusion!
And let's be clear here, I'm directly referring his own words and descriptions of what he asked this woman to do and how he views his children.
When I was a kid, my dad (who was a wonderful father and never for a second made me feel like I was just his "damn kid" or that he would have abandoned me in a heartbeat if it wasn't for child support laws) told me:
"Whenever anyone tells a story about themselves, especially how something made them feel, focus on the other people in the story and how that person treated them. You'll find more truths about a person's character in how they treat others than in their description of their own feelings."
But maybe you're right.
Maybe I'm just not poetic enough to see the heroism in the story of one man's journey to achieve his destiny of abandoning his children and to embrace the higher power of avoiding child support. (God damn that sentence was funny to write! Lol)
There are few things funnier than when something is equal parts sincere, stupid, and awful! Lol
The OP's post was just self absorbed, but your "destiny", "higher power" comment turned it into comedy gold!
Are you serious with this?
So what are his children or as he describes them his "damn kids"? Are they merely background characters in the heroic story of his personal destiny? Lol
And what exactly is the higher power he is trying to embrace?
Because is sounds like the only higher power he wants to embrace is the power to abandon his "damn kids" while avoiding child support! Lol
Abandoning your kids and asking someone else to do the same thing is not a "destiny". And not wanting to pay child support for the children you abandoned is not a "higher power". Lol
And the fact that he didn't immediately see that but instead wrote as if the tragedy is his "lost love" and not how he views his children or that he asked a woman he claims to love to give up her children or lose him, is self indulgent to the point of ridiculousness. Lol
What OP describes are the small selfish wants of a man who sees his children as "damn kids", asked a mother to abandon her children because he doesn't want the bother of raising them, and is only choosing not to abandon his own "damn kids" because he doesn't want to pay child support.
The fact that he wraps his smallness and selfishness in a story of "lost love" just adds a layer of ridiculous self dillusion!
And let's be clear here, I'm directly referring his own words and descriptions of what he asked this woman to do and how he views his children.
When I was a kid, my dad (who was a wonderful father and never for a second made me feel like I was just his "damn kid" or that he would have abandoned me in a heartbeat if it wasn't for child support laws) told me:
"Whenever anyone tells a story about themselves, especially how something made them feel, focus on the other people in the story and how that person treated them. You'll find more truths about a person's character in how they treat others than in their description of their own feelings."
But maybe you're right.
Maybe I'm just not poetic enough to see the heroism in the story of one man's journey to achieve his destiny of abandoning his children and to embrace the higher power of avoiding child support. (God damn that sentence was funny to write! Lol)
There are few things funnier than when something is equal parts sincere, stupid, and awful! Lol
The OP's post was just self absorbed, but your "destiny", "higher power" comment turned it into comedy gold!
Dude from my point of view if you love her. Set her up in her own country with some livelihood as youre doing. Your American dollars may go much farther there. Give her a real gift of stability and the chance to do better economically. After all that's what your white knight side wants to do right? Don't divorce and leave your kids. Just my 2 cents.
I kind of was trying to do that. Pay for her courses so she can get her little diploma in that thing she was doing. Once she got it she could get a better job. But something happened. Mis-communication. She noticed something she hadn't noticed before I guess. I wanted to keep seeing her every 3 months or so. Maybe 4 to 6 months or so. I bought her mad gifts man. 5 sets of nice alfets. Even though they were only brand name jeans and nice shirts name brand. That's still alot compared in Ecuador. I'm hoping she will realize no other dude in that country will ever treat her like how I treated her. She even told me this. I treated her like a princess. I'm talking emotionally and economically. But she preferred the emotions better of course. But I'm hoping she will see the light one day.
So you're hoping she will see the light one day and do what Exactly?
Abandon her three kids to be with you because you don't want to help her raise her kids and have to pay child support for your own "damn kids".
What exactly is your image of a "happy ending" here?
A mother abandoning her three children to be with you, and you effectively abandoning your own children and not having to pay a dime to support either her children or your own!
Sweet mother of mercy, leave this woman alone!
From the sound of things, she is not the answer to your problems and being with you would only make her miserable!
It is also amazing to me that you are so wrapped up in what you want from her that you can't see that you are 100% the asshole in this story!
You literally asked her to pick between you and her kids and hope that she will one day "sees the light" Lol.
And why do you think this is ok? Because you would abandon your own "damn kids" in a heartbeat if you could just get out of paying child support!
Wow... Just wow!
Side question:
I've got to know. Why the hell do you hate your children so much that you describe them as your "damn kids" and the only reason you haven't already abandoned them is that you don't want to pay child support?
I mean damn.... They're your children!
Abandon her three kids to be with you because you don't want to help her raise her kids and have to pay child support for your own "damn kids".
What exactly is your image of a "happy ending" here?
A mother abandoning her three children to be with you, and you effectively abandoning your own children and not having to pay a dime to support either her children or your own!
Sweet mother of mercy, leave this woman alone!
From the sound of things, she is not the answer to your problems and being with you would only make her miserable!
It is also amazing to me that you are so wrapped up in what you want from her that you can't see that you are 100% the asshole in this story!
You literally asked her to pick between you and her kids and hope that she will one day "sees the light" Lol.
And why do you think this is ok? Because you would abandon your own "damn kids" in a heartbeat if you could just get out of paying child support!
Wow... Just wow!
Side question:
I've got to know. Why the hell do you hate your children so much that you describe them as your "damn kids" and the only reason you haven't already abandoned them is that you don't want to pay child support?
I mean damn.... They're your children!
Na dude. It's a misunderstanding. I was writing fast. My kids would never be abandoned because I would have partial custody or would see them on the weekend. Besides my kids already have their college funds so they are set you see. They would never be abandoned. I told her she could come here and I would take care of her. Me and her would live together. She would be able to send money to them when she works here so she wouldn't abandoned them. She only freaked out because she knows the paper work could take years. Maybe. Possibly. But then she also freaked out because since she is so humble, she didn't want to break up a home. She experienced that with her own father who abandoned her and her 2 sisters when her father walked away with another women. Literally left them to starve. You see I would never do that. I just wouldn't be able to afford to take care of her and her 3 kids in NYC and pay child support at the same time. That's the issue. Now if I was a millionaire. Oh hellz yeah I would bring her and her 3 kids to live with me. But I'm not a millionaire. She has seen my pics on social media. She knows I'm an outstanding citizen of my community and I'm the father of the year. She doesn't want to be responsible for being a homewrecker either. That's why she is the real deal. I told her. Good dads in the USA are normal. It's not like Ecuador. Men in Ecuador are horrible creatures. Women have to put up with men who have multiple women and multiple families with kids with multiple women. And always cheating on them. And they don't pay child support or give them anything really. I actually sent her flowers and chocolate for her birthday only 1 month text dating. And she was in shocked. Why? Because men in Ecuador don't do that kind of stuff. But they get to smash all the time though. The culture is so messed up there. Women are used to stealing other women's men. Even if they are married. It's a married man's paradise over there. It's unbelievable.
Ok, so here's the thing. Take a long look at everything you wrote from your first post to this last one. You mention your children exactly twice.
The first time as "damned kids" that you don't want to pay child support for and the second time as not really needing you as their full time father all that much because they have college funds and there's always joint custody.
So the first time you bring up your children you describe them as a burden, and the second time you bring them up is to describe the reasons why you leaving them wouldn't be that big of a deal.
And you only did that be I and a bunch of other people who actually read what you wrote called you out on what you were saying about your kids! Lol
And how you spoke about your children wasn't the only thing you backtracked on when called out about it.
In your first post you made it a point to say that this woman's choice of her children over you was right and good. But with every post afterwards you slowly cut away from that. Suddenly what was once her a right and good choice of her kids over you was just a misunderstanding, a mistake on her part. Her being too "humble" to understand what you really meant!
You basically fake complimented her. Calling her good for being so humble, but in the same breath saying that that same humility caused her to misunderstand you lol.
You know what you did spend a lot of time on? Describing yourself as "father of the year" again... Wow!
Actually, that's not true, you didn't actually describe anything that makes you "father of the year" you just went into detail as to how the fathers in Ecuador, are soo much worse than you!
Let that one sink in for a sec. You called yourself father of the year then pretty much described how the woman you claim to love should see you that way (despite the fact that you asked her to choose between you and staying with children more than six months out of the year) because she doesn't have any better choices (in your opinion)
Wow! Break out the roses and champagne, we've got a real Romeo here! "You should leave your kids and shack up with me four months out of the year because it's not like you have any better choices where you are. By the way, I won't actually be helping you out with the kids you left behind, because of my child support payments for my own damn kids, so sending money back to your family, that's on you!"
Look, I know this post sounds mean, but God damn it man, it is Christmas!
A holiday that is pretty much all about children! And here you are with one foot out the door posting to strangers about how you would leave your "damn kids" if it wasn't for the child support payments, trying to convince a woman to leave her children to shack up with you four months out of the year, and calling yourself "father of the year" because you've convinced yourself that you're better than all the men in an entire country! Lol
You think she "misunderstands" you? I'm guessing she understands you completely and just doesn't want what you're offering.
I also think your kids probably realize a lot more than you think they do about how you view them good and bad.
Consider the very real possibility that they have a better idea of all the ways you feel about them but still show you love and act like nothing is wrong because they love you and hope you love them as much as they love you
Consider the possibility (especially after rereading all of your posts) that you might not actually be "father of the year" despite how horrible you know all the men in Ecuador to be (Again... Wow!)
Again I know I'm being mean but often it is the meanest sounding advice that breaks us out of stupidity and into reality.
Then again you can just keep this beautiful fantasy story you've told yourself where you are a star crossed Romeo and "father of the year" to you "damned kids".
Marry Christmas man! Your fantasies are fake, but your children are real.
The first time as "damned kids" that you don't want to pay child support for and the second time as not really needing you as their full time father all that much because they have college funds and there's always joint custody.
So the first time you bring up your children you describe them as a burden, and the second time you bring them up is to describe the reasons why you leaving them wouldn't be that big of a deal.
And you only did that be I and a bunch of other people who actually read what you wrote called you out on what you were saying about your kids! Lol
And how you spoke about your children wasn't the only thing you backtracked on when called out about it.
In your first post you made it a point to say that this woman's choice of her children over you was right and good. But with every post afterwards you slowly cut away from that. Suddenly what was once her a right and good choice of her kids over you was just a misunderstanding, a mistake on her part. Her being too "humble" to understand what you really meant!
You basically fake complimented her. Calling her good for being so humble, but in the same breath saying that that same humility caused her to misunderstand you lol.
You know what you did spend a lot of time on? Describing yourself as "father of the year" again... Wow!
Actually, that's not true, you didn't actually describe anything that makes you "father of the year" you just went into detail as to how the fathers in Ecuador, are soo much worse than you!
Let that one sink in for a sec. You called yourself father of the year then pretty much described how the woman you claim to love should see you that way (despite the fact that you asked her to choose between you and staying with children more than six months out of the year) because she doesn't have any better choices (in your opinion)
Wow! Break out the roses and champagne, we've got a real Romeo here! "You should leave your kids and shack up with me four months out of the year because it's not like you have any better choices where you are. By the way, I won't actually be helping you out with the kids you left behind, because of my child support payments for my own damn kids, so sending money back to your family, that's on you!"
Look, I know this post sounds mean, but God damn it man, it is Christmas!
A holiday that is pretty much all about children! And here you are with one foot out the door posting to strangers about how you would leave your "damn kids" if it wasn't for the child support payments, trying to convince a woman to leave her children to shack up with you four months out of the year, and calling yourself "father of the year" because you've convinced yourself that you're better than all the men in an entire country! Lol
You think she "misunderstands" you? I'm guessing she understands you completely and just doesn't want what you're offering.
I also think your kids probably realize a lot more than you think they do about how you view them good and bad.
Consider the very real possibility that they have a better idea of all the ways you feel about them but still show you love and act like nothing is wrong because they love you and hope you love them as much as they love you
Consider the possibility (especially after rereading all of your posts) that you might not actually be "father of the year" despite how horrible you know all the men in Ecuador to be (Again... Wow!)
Again I know I'm being mean but often it is the meanest sounding advice that breaks us out of stupidity and into reality.
Then again you can just keep this beautiful fantasy story you've told yourself where you are a star crossed Romeo and "father of the year" to you "damned kids".
Marry Christmas man! Your fantasies are fake, but your children are real.
Yeah I see how it looks, you can't really understand a situation from a few messages or actually know someones real life, but all I know is that people who actually know me in real life compliment me for being father of the year all the time.
If you actually saw the texts she sent me for my birthday it would make you cry. She basically wished me the best and happy birthday etc. She said that if there is an after life, and she hopes there is, then, that we would meet there again and be happy there and that she loves me very much. It was more stuff than that, but that part really tore me apart.
When she was still in the clouds she kept asking me if I was coming back. I told her yes. I even gave her a date. She was happy and fine with that. She was thrilled actually, because she honestly thought I just wanted to go and smash and then ignore her after that. Guess why? Because men in Ecuador have done that to her. Especially when they find out she has kids. So yeah she was willing to accept me to go every few months to be with her. But atleast she would still be with her family.
We live in a world where married men leave there wives and kids all the time. I'm not the 1st or last.
Anyways in the end. I've always made fun of people who do crazy stuff for "love". I thought that would never be me. I always thought that was impossible. I never understood why or how a person could fall in love with someone else and leave there family for. I always thought it had to be fake or something . But then it happened to me. I couldn't believe it. But maybe it was for the best either way, that she didn't go through with it.
But yes you are right in the sense that I need to do some soul searching now. Thank you.
If you actually saw the texts she sent me for my birthday it would make you cry. She basically wished me the best and happy birthday etc. She said that if there is an after life, and she hopes there is, then, that we would meet there again and be happy there and that she loves me very much. It was more stuff than that, but that part really tore me apart.
When she was still in the clouds she kept asking me if I was coming back. I told her yes. I even gave her a date. She was happy and fine with that. She was thrilled actually, because she honestly thought I just wanted to go and smash and then ignore her after that. Guess why? Because men in Ecuador have done that to her. Especially when they find out she has kids. So yeah she was willing to accept me to go every few months to be with her. But atleast she would still be with her family.
We live in a world where married men leave there wives and kids all the time. I'm not the 1st or last.
Anyways in the end. I've always made fun of people who do crazy stuff for "love". I thought that would never be me. I always thought that was impossible. I never understood why or how a person could fall in love with someone else and leave there family for. I always thought it had to be fake or something . But then it happened to me. I couldn't believe it. But maybe it was for the best either way, that she didn't go through with it.
But yes you are right in the sense that I need to do some soul searching now. Thank you.
You guys have to understand also. Her own mother, so she and her siblings wouldn't starve to death also made the ultimate sacrifice when they were little and left to Spain to work for a few years and made enough money to come back. She actually bought a house for the family that they live in now.
I'm sure you guys hear in the news all the time of how immigrants from other poor countries leave their families behind to come to the USA. So come one guys, is not like it's an usual phenomenon here. Yes I shouldn't have asked that but I only told her if she wanted something more serious that that's what would have happened. At first she was okey with me just flying back to see her every few months.
Since her mother had already done that. She did not see it as abnormal. She even asked her family if they would take care of her kids for a few years. They said yes. But something else happened. Her mother also decided to go back to Spain for good this time. I'm guessing that also triggered something in her brain and brought back bad memories of when her mother had to leave to Spain when she and her siblings were kids.
It was all just bad timing I guess. In fact. She once told me. Even though we were meant to be. We just met at the wrong time, wrong year and wrong country. I think what she probably meant was. If we would have met b4 her 3rd child, we probably would have been fine. Because her 3rd child is a girl and she has to get a signed off from her baby father for her too leave the country. As opposed to her 1st two children who's father passed away so she has full custody of them. And yes. I think I would've accepted the 1st two kids. But a 3rd one? And having to get signed off. That's too much.
I'm sure you guys hear in the news all the time of how immigrants from other poor countries leave their families behind to come to the USA. So come one guys, is not like it's an usual phenomenon here. Yes I shouldn't have asked that but I only told her if she wanted something more serious that that's what would have happened. At first she was okey with me just flying back to see her every few months.
Since her mother had already done that. She did not see it as abnormal. She even asked her family if they would take care of her kids for a few years. They said yes. But something else happened. Her mother also decided to go back to Spain for good this time. I'm guessing that also triggered something in her brain and brought back bad memories of when her mother had to leave to Spain when she and her siblings were kids.
It was all just bad timing I guess. In fact. She once told me. Even though we were meant to be. We just met at the wrong time, wrong year and wrong country. I think what she probably meant was. If we would have met b4 her 3rd child, we probably would have been fine. Because her 3rd child is a girl and she has to get a signed off from her baby father for her too leave the country. As opposed to her 1st two children who's father passed away so she has full custody of them. And yes. I think I would've accepted the 1st two kids. But a 3rd one? And having to get signed off. That's too much.
I guess we are no longer just "amp reviews" but "psych evaluation anonymous" 
It was like hearing someone tell the story of how they journeyed to find a sacred statue that filled their heart with awe and joy... while casually mentioning that they abandoned their children and asked a poor woman to give up her children along the way there!
Then, when we the crowd who actually listened to his words (because clearly he wasn't actually listening to what he was saying.) point out how awful he sounds in the story, he insists that we missed the point and just don't get it.
You see, the true message of his tale has nothing to do with how he views his children or the shitheel choice he put before this woman!
Nope, the true message of his story was his romantic journey, how he views himself and how it effected him! Lol
That's what made it so funny! Not the parts where he said he would abandon his "damn kids" if it wasn't for the child support or the part where he forced this poor to choose between her children and him.
Those were just objectively horrible!
But the part where he pretty much ignored his own words EVEN AS HE WROTE THEM! and didn't realize what he was saying about himself EVEN AS HE SAID IT!
That was comedy gold regardless of psychological evaluation!
But it's Christmas and this has gone far enough!
Either OP will have a moment of clarity or he won't.
So marry Christmas to every hobbiest from the most self delusional to the most rational!
From the sugar daddies to the Amp visitors!
From the married cheaters to the single guys who just has a rough day at work.
May we all get more than we pay for and never get what we deserve!
Lol
OP is definitely delusional and needs more honest people like Redrain in his life. You can’t call yourself father of the year when you are out cheating on their mother with other women and escorts living a secret life. At best you’re a good provider. Yeah no one’s perfect but no one is claiming that except you in a escort forum