I think this thread has gotten a bit out of hand, but for the record, when Sue was running her places in Philly, I rarely paid a house fee (she refused to take it from me). So I often got amazing service (from Sue and her girls) for only the tip. Granted, I’ve known Sue since her much earlier days when she first started out in Philly. Just saying you never know an individual’s circumstances, and truly YMMV, even when it comes to price.