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Rampage

Susanlixxx

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Messages: 73
Reviews: 22
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I really didn't want to come into this thread and read all the comments, but you know what they say about curiosity, so here I am.

And so, because I believe in transparency and setting the record straight, and separating fact from fiction, I will address the things that I know to be true, as well as rebut some of the false statements and rumors and speculation.

Rampage was removed from his role as a moderator on this site about a year ago, after he had done extensive damage to the site by mass-banning many, many members for very trivial things, or anyone who disagreed with him (or dared speak up), or even members just being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Fact.

I am not here to defend him, nor condone what he did. Like his handle, in the last 3-6 months before he was removed, he did go on a massive rampage to ban an inordinate number of members, but that was solely something he decided to do on his own. He did NOT have support from anyone to do what he did, and he basically went rogue. Fact.

He didn't care what anyone else thought, not other mods, and not even TJ, and while the other mods (including myself) did our best to try to limit the damage as much as possible (in the background), he was basically left unchecked for awhile. There's a few reasons for this including other mods and other members reaching out to TJ (which admittedly went unanswered for some time, until it was finally addressed about a year ago), trying to reason with rampage, undoing some of the things he did silently and in behind the scenes, etc. but the truth is, we ourselves (the rest of the mod staff) were afraid of getting banned ourselves from him. And if that happened, there would have been a mass quitting of the site by all the staff, and ONLY would rampage would be left, and we couldn't let that happen. So we were careful to not push him TOO hard either. In essence, we were trying to keep the site afloat and bide time until TJ came back. Which he did about a year ago. Those are the facts.

Those members who claim that the rest of the mod staff or TJ himself "didn't do anything" or "enabled him" @alwayshorny81 @Koondog are speaking from a misinformed place, without any background info, context, or even an attempt to understand the situation before they spew pure BS. Those members who have communicated with me directly or any of the other mods are aware of these facts. But some people aren't interested in the truth, and only believe what they believe, facts be damned. Anyway...

The reports of "lonely loser", "no job and lives with his mother in his basement", "software expertise", "fake NY tough guy" and "mentally deranged (for the most part)" are all false. I don't know the size of his dick, so I can't attest to that, nor do I want to.

And though I did "know" him better than most, many of our veterans who have interacted with him in the past (before his rampage) found him to be quite smart, witty (especially when he would ban someone for good reason with a farewell message), provider-friendly, principled (believe it or not), and in the beginning and the middle of his tenure, he was an effective moderator and really helped the site out a lot (even before I became a mod myself). He held a pretty respectable, white-collared profession (which I know to be true), and from what I experienced, he was a pretty sociable, seemingly well-adjusted dude. A normal dude. Those are facts.

I do not purport to know exactly what set him off, but I can think of a few reasons that are my own, personal opinions and assumptions. Like @Pinkbuttholes speculated here:



That's definitely a part of it.

Another aspect is that during the early and mid-days of Covid, life was challenging for most, and he wasn't immune to the stresses of it either. I won't get into his personal life to protect his privacy, but he was dealing with some serious, real-world issues that were not at all easy. And that's understating it a lot.

Also during Covid days, there were times where he was the only mod online and doing most of the mod work on this site by himself. I've had instances where I had to step away to focus on my personal life, and so did other mods too. Frankly, it's a lot of work, and it ate up a lot of his time and energy. I respect him for sticking through it and holding down the fort, virtually by himself, and not just walk away. But I also think that left a bad taste in his mouth, and it further expanded his resentment towards the site and its members.

It still doesn't excuse his behavior nor did it give him the right to do what he did, but I think those outside factors most definitely contributed to the point where he went off the rails, and he took it out on the members here. He just lost it...is it because it's online and on a message board and not "real life" that made him do what he did? Or is he capable of a similar action in the real-world? I don't know the answers to these questions, but for the latter one, I don't believe so...but that's just my personal opinion.

After TJ came back, righted the ship, and rampage lost his mod privileges, there was a lot of work to be done to undo the damage. But a year later, I think the site is even better off...we have even more members, more reviews, more quality content, and it's continuing to grow and thrive. Yes, there still exists hard feelings (as evidenced by this one thread alone), but I think the current board is stronger than ever, and even brighter days in the future. I think TJ and the rest of the staff stepped up and repaired as much as we could, and I believe we've come a long way. There is still more work to be done, but it's much more focused on growth, rather than damage repair.

If anyone has any further questions, ask away, but let's let bygones by bygones and not have to continue to attack someone who's not here anymore. He obviously had many faults (fatal ones too), but let's try not to diminish his past, good work too. We obviously cannot change what happened in the past, but let's learn from it and never let it happen again.
Very civil or you to explain all these things . I totally understand the things you say and can consider forgiving him . But the damage he did was very real . We had a nice thing here , I even had folks I looked up to like @donhollinger . But rampage destroyed all that. Nevertheless pretty nice of you to set the record straight.
The Bay Area folks were the worst affected by his purges. We were banished entirely and went to the other website (zh141.com) but in the migration lost some good people I used to look up to. It’s not the same…
 

alwayshorny81

Registered Member
Messages: 395
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I really didn't want to come into this thread and read all the comments, but you know what they say about curiosity, so here I am.

And so, because I believe in transparency and setting the record straight, and separating fact from fiction, I will address the things that I know to be true, as well as rebut some of the false statements and rumors and speculation.

Rampage was removed from his role as a moderator on this site about a year ago, after he had done extensive damage to the site by mass-banning many, many members for very trivial things, or anyone who disagreed with him (or dared speak up), or even members just being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Fact.

I am not here to defend him, nor condone what he did. Like his handle, in the last 3-6 months before he was removed, he did go on a massive rampage to ban an inordinate number of members, but that was solely something he decided to do on his own. He did NOT have support from anyone to do what he did, and he basically went rogue. Fact.

He didn't care what anyone else thought, not other mods, and not even TJ, and while the other mods (including myself) did our best to try to limit the damage as much as possible (in the background), he was basically left unchecked for awhile. There's a few reasons for this including other mods and other members reaching out to TJ (which admittedly went unanswered for some time, until it was finally addressed about a year ago), trying to reason with rampage, undoing some of the things he did silently and in behind the scenes, etc. but the truth is, we ourselves (the rest of the mod staff) were afraid of getting banned ourselves from him. And if that happened, there would have been a mass quitting of the site by all the staff, and ONLY would rampage would be left, and we couldn't let that happen. So we were careful to not push him TOO hard either. In essence, we were trying to keep the site afloat and bide time until TJ came back. Which he did about a year ago. Those are the facts.

Those members who claim that the rest of the mod staff or TJ himself "didn't do anything" or "enabled him" @alwayshorny81 @Koondog are speaking from a misinformed place, without any background info, context, or even an attempt to understand the situation before they spew pure BS. Those members who have communicated with me directly or any of the other mods are aware of these facts. But some people aren't interested in the truth, and only believe what they believe, facts be damned. Anyway...

The reports of "lonely loser", "no job and lives with his mother in his basement", "software expertise", "fake NY tough guy" and "mentally deranged (for the most part)" are all false. I don't know the size of his dick, so I can't attest to that, nor do I want to.

And though I did "know" him better than most, many of our veterans who have interacted with him in the past (before his rampage) found him to be quite smart, witty (especially when he would ban someone for good reason with a farewell message), provider-friendly, principled (believe it or not), and in the beginning and the middle of his tenure, he was an effective moderator and really helped the site out a lot (even before I became a mod myself). He held a pretty respectable, white-collared profession (which I know to be true), and from what I experienced, he was a pretty sociable, seemingly well-adjusted dude. A normal dude. Those are facts.

I do not purport to know exactly what set him off, but I can think of a few reasons that are my own, personal opinions and assumptions. Like @Pinkbuttholes speculated here:



That's definitely a part of it.

Another aspect is that during the early and mid-days of Covid, life was challenging for most, and he wasn't immune to the stresses of it either. I won't get into his personal life to protect his privacy, but he was dealing with some serious, real-world issues that were not at all easy. And that's understating it a lot.

Also during Covid days, there were times where he was the only mod online and doing most of the mod work on this site by himself. I've had instances where I had to step away to focus on my personal life, and so did other mods too. Frankly, it's a lot of work, and it ate up a lot of his time and energy. I respect him for sticking through it and holding down the fort, virtually by himself, and not just walk away. But I also think that left a bad taste in his mouth, and it further expanded his resentment towards the site and its members.

It still doesn't excuse his behavior nor did it give him the right to do what he did, but I think those outside factors most definitely contributed to the point where he went off the rails, and he took it out on the members here. He just lost it...is it because it's online and on a message board and not "real life" that made him do what he did? Or is he capable of a similar action in the real-world? I don't know the answers to these questions, but for the latter one, I don't believe so...but that's just my personal opinion.

After TJ came back, righted the ship, and rampage lost his mod privileges, there was a lot of work to be done to undo the damage. But a year later, I think the site is even better off...we have even more members, more reviews, more quality content, and it's continuing to grow and thrive. Yes, there still exists hard feelings (as evidenced by this one thread alone), but I think the current board is stronger than ever, and even brighter days in the future. I think TJ and the rest of the staff stepped up and repaired as much as we could, and I believe we've come a long way. There is still more work to be done, but it's much more focused on growth, rather than damage repair.

If anyone has any further questions, ask away, but let's let bygones by bygones and not have to continue to attack someone who's not here anymore. He obviously had many faults (fatal ones too), but let's try not to diminish his past, good work too. We obviously cannot change what happened in the past, but let's learn from it and never let it happen again.

Because you referenced me I'm responding in kind. Thank you for stating the facts from your side of the story.
I cry your pardon and when I'm wrong I say I'm wrong.
Ok time to move on to other things...
 

hhnyc77

Moderator
Messages: 1,164
Reviews: 75
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Very civil or you to explain all these things . I totally understand the things you say and can consider forgiving him . But the damage he did was very real . We had a nice thing here , I even had folks I looked up to like @donhollinger . But rampage destroyed all that. Nevertheless pretty nice of you to set the record straight.
The Bay Area folks were the worst affected by his purges. We were banished entirely and went to the other website (zh141.com) but in the migration lost some good people I used to look up to. It’s not the same…
You don't have to forgive him but the point of my post was to separate fact from fiction, and put an end to all the speculation and rumors. He's been off the site for more than a year...let's try to just let him be and instead, focus on moving forward. Even after all he did, he still deserves his privacy.

You're right in that the Bay Area did get the worst of it...and again, while I'm not defending his actions, there was a disproportionate amount of bad behavior coming from the Bay area, though nuking the entire section shouldn't have happened, nor the mass purges that took place. There was a lot of disrespect, animosity, and just bad feelings overall, and that was both inexplicable and inexcusable.

TJ and the rest of the staff spent a huge amount of time and effort to try to undo the damage...we unbanned every single account that we know of, got rid of lots of petty "rules" (unofficial ones), explained both publicly and privately the circumstances, issued lots of apologies, took ownership of the problem, and most importantly, vowed to do better...and I think that's where we've been headed.

But while it might not be the same as before, if we put out a good product/service, manage it well (ironically enough, sometimes that means just sitting back and letting the members do their thing), and do the things that we said we would do, I think that goes a long way to have some of those members return, and we hope they do. Because they will see a much improved place, consistent messaging, and a site that values its members.

By the way, it's good that there's other sites out there too...cross-referencing intel against another source is always welcomed, and lots of our members are members of other sites too. They might have some features or an advantage that we don't have, and vice versa. And though I might be biased, I don't think any site out there matches the breadth of our coverage and content, as well as the quality of our members, and the camaraderie and community aspect...but that's just me.

Because you referenced me I'm responding in kind. Thank you for stating the facts from your side of the story.
I cry your pardon and when I'm wrong I say I'm wrong.
Ok time to move on to other things...
Didn't mean to call you out specifically...just wanted to address some of the comments that were made, is all. My bad, if you thought I was directing it at you, because it was supposed to be much more general.

The thing that some people don't grasp is that the mods here are not here to enforce or police or punish members at all. Period. We are here to help the general membership, maintain the site with administrative duties, and spurn dialogue. We are all members ourselves, and have years and years of hobbying experience, and do this on a completely volunteer basis, without any compensation nor benefits. Sure, we might have to discipline some bad apples that always exist no matter where you go, but that's secondary and not something we take joy in.

No one raised their hand and said they wanted to be a mod...we were all asked to help out the site, and to ensure the smooth, day-to-day running of the board, and we accepted the responsibility, time commitment, and even all the headaches that come with the territory.

Our ideal day is being able to just read the hundreds of reviews that come in daily and just hit "approve, approve, approve", and not have to step in to deal with the numerous reports that come in from members. We want our members to police themselves whenever possible, and have nothing else to do other than read reviews and approve them, so you guys can earn your private access credit as soon as possible.

Hope this helps to better understand the dynamics, and that we mean what we say.
 

Voodoo66

MOD
Messages: 92
Reviews: 6
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Guys, think before you post. Regardless of someone’s behavior either past or present, put yourself in the position of being on the receiving end of your retribution. This forum has one purpose and it shouldn’t be petty paybacks etc. Have a good experience and respect everyone regardless of your feelings.
 

Wayne1250

Review Contributor
Messages: 11,104
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As hhnyc77 said, there is no better site out there. Rubmaps is probably the second best site out there for AMP's, but there is no member benefit for writing reviews. Everyone has to pay to get access to the reviews. Here we have a choice.
 

hhnyc77

Moderator
Messages: 1,164
Reviews: 75
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As hhnyc77 said, there is no better site out there. Rubmaps is probably the second best site out there for AMP's, but there is no member benefit for writing reviews. Everyone has to pay to get access to the reviews. Here we have a choice.
Also, one of our main draws is our PM system...it's completely private and unrestricted, and a powerful tool to trade and compare notes with trusted members, some of whom become friends.
 

bonerhope

pecker_wood, thomasbird, Pay4, Pete2, Ppipe, Homas
Messages: 543
Reviews: 16
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I really didn't want to come into this thread and read all the comments, but you know what they say about curiosity, so here I am.

And so, because I believe in transparency and setting the record straight, and separating fact from fiction, I will address the things that I know to be true, as well as rebut some of the false statements and rumors and speculation.

Rampage was removed from his role as a moderator on this site about a year ago, after he had done extensive damage to the site by mass-banning many, many members for very trivial things, or anyone who disagreed with him (or dared speak up), or even members just being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Fact.

I am not here to defend him, nor condone what he did. Like his handle, in the last 3-6 months before he was removed, he did go on a massive rampage to ban an inordinate number of members, but that was solely something he decided to do on his own. He did NOT have support from anyone to do what he did, and he basically went rogue. Fact.

He didn't care what anyone else thought, not other mods, and not even TJ, and while the other mods (including myself) did our best to try to limit the damage as much as possible (in the background), he was basically left unchecked for awhile. There's a few reasons for this including other mods and other members reaching out to TJ (which admittedly went unanswered for some time, until it was finally addressed about a year ago), trying to reason with rampage, undoing some of the things he did silently and in behind the scenes, etc. but the truth is, we ourselves (the rest of the mod staff) were afraid of getting banned ourselves from him. And if that happened, there would have been a mass quitting of the site by all the staff, and ONLY would rampage would be left, and we couldn't let that happen. So we were careful to not push him TOO hard either. In essence, we were trying to keep the site afloat and bide time until TJ came back. Which he did about a year ago. Those are the facts.

Those members who claim that the rest of the mod staff or TJ himself "didn't do anything" or "enabled him" @alwayshorny81 @Koondog are speaking from a misinformed place, without any background info, context, or even an attempt to understand the situation before they spew pure BS. Those members who have communicated with me directly or any of the other mods are aware of these facts. But some people aren't interested in the truth, and only believe what they believe, facts be damned. Anyway...

The reports of "lonely loser", "no job and lives with his mother in his basement", "software expertise", "fake NY tough guy" and "mentally deranged (for the most part)" are all false. I don't know the size of his dick, so I can't attest to that, nor do I want to.

And though I did "know" him better than most, many of our veterans who have interacted with him in the past (before his rampage) found him to be quite smart, witty (especially when he would ban someone for good reason with a farewell message), provider-friendly, principled (believe it or not), and in the beginning and the middle of his tenure, he was an effective moderator and really helped the site out a lot (even before I became a mod myself). He held a pretty respectable, white-collared profession (which I know to be true), and from what I experienced, he was a pretty sociable, seemingly well-adjusted dude. A normal dude. Those are facts.

I do not purport to know exactly what set him off, but I can think of a few reasons that are my own, personal opinions and assumptions. Like @Pinkbuttholes speculated here:



That's definitely a part of it.

Another aspect is that during the early and mid-days of Covid, life was challenging for most, and he wasn't immune to the stresses of it either. I won't get into his personal life to protect his privacy, but he was dealing with some serious, real-world issues that were not at all easy. And that's understating it a lot.

Also during Covid days, there were times where he was the only mod online and doing most of the mod work on this site by himself. I've had instances where I had to step away to focus on my personal life, and so did other mods too. Frankly, it's a lot of work, and it ate up a lot of his time and energy. I respect him for sticking through it and holding down the fort, virtually by himself, and not just walk away. But I also think that left a bad taste in his mouth, and it further expanded his resentment towards the site and its members.

It still doesn't excuse his behavior nor did it give him the right to do what he did, but I think those outside factors most definitely contributed to the point where he went off the rails, and he took it out on the members here. He just lost it...is it because it's online and on a message board and not "real life" that made him do what he did? Or is he capable of a similar action in the real-world? I don't know the answers to these questions, but for the latter one, I don't believe so...but that's just my personal opinion.

After TJ came back, righted the ship, and rampage lost his mod privileges, there was a lot of work to be done to undo the damage. But a year later, I think the site is even better off...we have even more members, more reviews, more quality content, and it's continuing to grow and thrive. Yes, there still exists hard feelings (as evidenced by this one thread alone), but I think the current board is stronger than ever, and even brighter days in the future. I think TJ and the rest of the staff stepped up and repaired as much as we could, and I believe we've come a long way. There is still more work to be done, but it's much more focused on growth, rather than damage repair.

If anyone has any further questions, ask away, but let's let bygones by bygones and not have to continue to attack someone who's not here anymore. He obviously had many faults (fatal ones too), but let's try not to diminish his past, good work too. We obviously cannot change what happened in the past, but let's learn from it and never let it happen again.
Wow, rampage had the power to ban the other moderators, and you were afraid of getting banned for criticising him? This explains part of our puzzlement. The other was that TJ was completely absent due to personal life crisis which he explains in his comments after banning rampage. This implies that the moderators didn't have any way to contact TJ except through ampreviews PMs?

I had heard before that rampage wasn't an asshole in real life. But absent explanations to the contrary, it is normal to fully characterize him by only his visible bad behavior. Some massmurders are really nice guys. It would be interesting if he could explain his contradictory behavior, but only after therapy. I do think his bad behavior is because he wasn't accountable.

The following is an attempt to explain my and others resentment. I think it's easier to let it go or move on if you understand why:

There is still a lot of resentment (unresolved hurt feelings) from myself and members who got banned for contributing many hours to ampreviews. If you were't active or agreed with him, you didn't get banned. Rampage's banning is 95% responsible for creating the bay section of https://forum.zh141.com/ which is about 90% of all of their US presence, which considering how 20-30 years ago computer nerd club hostile the site is says a lot. (It's even structured as a video game by getting points for good reviews, reports which gets more access, more power, etc.)

I had sent TJ a PM about it which he finally saw, but even without, it would have been obvious when he discovered a whole SF bay gone, and looked at how many handles rampage banned. Luckily, all the prior login handles were still there to restore. (But created another difficulty from the 8 banned handles I had. ). I do like that he has since fixed a bunch of irritating bugs.

The reason for high levels of resentment are several. The SF bay and South Bay are unique environs for mongering in the US. It's both the liberal attitude, and I suspect very large number of Asian and foreign highly paid high tech workers in a small driving area of Silicon Valley. I think it has the highest number of bookings and repeat bookings for a provider vs spread out LA/Orange County and Las Vegas, combo visitors and locals (brothels are legal in some Nevada counties, but not in Las Vegas or Henderson.

ampreviews was the only site that had real time dialog, and comments after a review because it post moderated unlike TER which premoderated. In my analysis it allowed ampreviews to grow rapidly despite inability to see all the reviews for a provider in one spot. (Search did't work that well.)

There have been a long history of SF bay mongers moving every few years from one review site getting shutdown to another. For me the first was SF redbook getting shut down for unpaid taxes, then some review site associated with CityVibe advertising site which got shutdown by Sesta/Fosta, then to SF bay local ampmaps owned by rubmaps which got shutdown to push everyone over to the Erotic Monkey also owned by rubmaps, which then dumped real reviews and pushed fake reviews as a legal defence that they were a fantasy site, to protect the rubmaps cash cow which seemed immune to legal action unlike backpage, etc.

I've probably missed a step and got some of this wrong. But it's to show resentment history about every time mongers in SF Bay have been burned by review sites repeatedly disappearing or self distructing.

The migration to TER started about when rubmaps was destroying good reviews and dialog. But TER also seems to be running on autopilot. Although a good review site it lacks real time comments and dialog. One of all these sites could dominate if they would incorporate the best features of the other sites. Or, maybe ampreviews could merge with forum. zh141.com which I think is real time. I always thought that most moderation could be done by computer. (It's actually easy to identify rule violations.)

Basically, it's impossible to cost monger without a review site. And, review sites necessarily work as advertising, because advertising is illegal.
 

bonerhope

pecker_wood, thomasbird, Pay4, Pete2, Ppipe, Homas
Messages: 543
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Sorry, rereading my spiel, it's fairly turgid, too many ideas, not clear. It needs rewriting, but that takes too long. I don't think verbally, but translate visual thinking (I'm an electronics analog engineer).
 

Francoislegrand

Review Contributor
Messages: 319
Reviews: 20
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As hhnyc77 said, there is no better site out there. Rubmaps is probably the second best site out there for AMP's, but there is no member benefit for writing reviews. Everyone has to pay to get access to the reviews. Here we have a choice.
And pay a lot man. Fuck, I came here because it got too pricey.
 

Mrxnewtoy

Registered Member
Messages: 157
Joined
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Dude was a psycho. He banned people for posting on amps in the South Bay even though there’s one of the biggest markets in the country there. Rubmaps shows 515 parlors in SJ alone. I’m glad ampreviews finally got it together and started South Bay threads ‍♂️
 

Slug1098

Review Contributor
Messages: 28
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I think I first found this site in the middle of Rampage’s problem period. I remember looking for a Bay Area thread and finding a sticky post that basically boiled down to “You fucks need to realize there will NEVER be a Bay Area thread again, and it’s because you all suck. If I catch you even talking about the Bay Area, I’ll ban you and that will be final.”

Needless to say, I opted out of here and joined Rubmaps instead. It was a lucky coincidence that I got linked here a few years later and found it to be much improved. I’m glad things have gotten better, as I much prefer this board over RM now.
 

hhnyc77

Moderator
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When I win the lottery mods get all back pay !
Nah, not at all interested in any sort of compensation...but we do appreciate the sentiment!

BUT, WHEN you DO win the lottery, having nothing to do with this site, I would like some pricey gifts please, friend! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Speaking of which...should go out and buy some Powerball tickets if it ever stops raining, ugh...
 

fenster

Registered Member
Messages: 40
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Nah, not at all interested in any sort of compensation...but we do appreciate the sentiment!

BUT, WHEN you DO win the lottery, having nothing to do with this site, I would like some pricey gifts please, friend! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Speaking of which...should go out and buy some Powerball tickets if it ever stops raining, ugh...
Nobody won the Powerball on Wed so it's up to 1.3B for Sat Apr 6th
 
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