Moderna or Pfizer or J&J?

[Magiktung]

Just get the shots. Any of them. The goal is not to eliminate covid, but to limit the impact.
If anyone wants a private lesson on what the efficacy rates REALLY mean, and the real goal of this vaccine, please DM me, I would be happy to explain efficacy rates in relation to clinical trials.

 

[njlefty]

Just get the shots. Any of them. The goal is not to eliminate covid, but to limit the impact.
If anyone wants a private lesson on what the efficacy rates REALLY mean, and the real goal of this vaccine, please DM me, I would be happy to explain efficacy rates in relation to clinical trials.

I am curious as to your opinion of the efficacy of Moderna after one shot.

I have seen so many percentages tossed out that I have no clue as to what is accurate. Thanks.

 

[Magiktung]

I am curious as to your opinion of the efficacy of Moderna after one shot.

I have seen so many percentages tossed out that I have no clue as to what is accurate. Thanks.

Single shot really depends on if you had covid previously. There are new studies in place now to see if single shot WITH cured covid is as effective.

 

[njlefty]

Single shot really depends on if you had covid previously. There are new studies in place now to see if single shot WITH cured covid is as effective.

Avoided getting Covid. Had the single shot on March 19. Second one will be April 16.

I have seen efficacy rates from 50 to 80 percent two weeks after first shot.

 

[Cheyenne]

Def some efficacy after first shot, second shot acts almost like a booster. Getting second Pfizer shot in two weeks. Just hanging low for the time being with the daily case load so freaking high, not really sure why it's so out of control. But will feel better after this second shot. Good luck to everyone and stay safe.

 

[Magiktung]

Avoided getting Covid. Had the single shot on March 19. Second one will be April 16.

I have seen efficacy rates from 50 to 80 percent two weeks after first shot.

That’s about right. In the studies, ZERO people were hospitalized, experienced severe symptoms, or died with full doses of any of the vaccines. The vaccines do not 100% prevent disease. They do prevent death, severe symptoms, and hospitalization.

I’ll say it again ZERO.

 

[yougen]

If I were given choice, I would go for Moderna. Here's my reasoning. I know all 3 are effective in preventing death or severe symptoms, but Moderna and Pfizer can effectively prevent even mild symptoms. Between the M & P, I lean slightly towards M, only because P requires such extreme low temperature for transport that any logistical error or negligence can render the vaccine ineffective and we wouldn't even know it.

 

[Magiktung]

If I were given choice, I would go for Moderna. Here's my reasoning. I know all 3 are effective in preventing death or severe symptoms, but Moderna and Pfizer can effectively prevent even mild symptoms. Between the M & P, I lean slightly towards M, only because P requires such extreme low temperature for transport that any logistical error or negligence can render the vaccine ineffective and we wouldn't even know it.

Sound reasons. But ultimately we need as many people to get any vaccine. That will start to break the communicability chain and feel herd immunity.

We are on the right track.

 

[njlefty]

If I were given choice, I would go for Moderna. Here's my reasoning. I know all 3 are effective in preventing death or severe symptoms, but Moderna and Pfizer can effectively prevent even mild symptoms. Between the M & P, I lean slightly towards M, only because P requires such extreme low temperature for transport that any logistical error or negligence can render the vaccine ineffective and we wouldn't even know it.

This is something I had also been thinking about. I am glad I got any shot, though. Moderna was the one available to me.

 

[cocolover81]

It's crazy there's so much debate over the vaccines. TL;DR just take any one half pfizer/moderna to start, or the full J&J if you can get it.

The potency of ALL of the vaccines, whether it's Pfizer or Moderna or J&J are to prevent death and serious hospitalizations. They each achieve this 100% provided that you don't have health complications.

The efficacy rates are statistics obtained from trials on a sample amount of individuals regarding infections/reinfections and whatnot; this included placebos. P/M done theirs when cases were rising. J&J had done theirs at the peak of highest cases. They will have a lower efficacy rate because of the high amount of infections versus P/M trials.

The reason behind why Pfizer/Moderna are two shots versus J&J's single shot has to do with logistics. P/M already had a lot of vaccines going into production and wanted to get as many people half vaccinated as possible with what's at hand versus less people with the deadlines set by the government. More people with it at half > less people at full while cases go up in the states. J&J are late to the vaccine game, but they are doing one shot one deal so they don't need to split theirs.

 

[Magiktung]

It's crazy there's so much debate over the vaccines. TL;DR just take any one half pfizer/moderna to start, or the full J&J if you can get it.

The potency of ALL of the vaccines, whether it's Pfizer or Moderna or J&J are to prevent death and serious hospitalizations. They each achieve this 100% provided that you don't have health complications.

The efficacy rates are statistics obtained from trials on a sample amount of individuals regarding infections/reinfections and whatnot; this included placebos. P/M done theirs when cases were rising. J&J had done theirs at the peak of highest cases. They will have a lower efficacy rate because of the high amount of infections versus P/M trials.

The reason behind why Pfizer/Moderna are two shots versus J&J's single shot has to do with logistics. P/M already had a lot of vaccines going into production and wanted to get as many people half vaccinated as possible with what's at hand versus less people with the deadlines set by the government. More people with it at half > less people at full while cases go up in the states. J&J are late to the vaccine game, but they are doing one shot one deal so they don't need to split theirs.

Perfectly said.

 

[jfox987]

Wouldn't it be a surprise to find that you set up a hook up wih your SO who was on this board looking for love?

If you like pina coladas...

 

[njlefty]

It's crazy there's so much debate over the vaccines. TL;DR just take any one half pfizer/moderna to start, or the full J&J if you can get it.

The potency of ALL of the vaccines, whether it's Pfizer or Moderna or J&J are to prevent death and serious hospitalizations. They each achieve this 100% provided that you don't have health complications.

The efficacy rates are statistics obtained from trials on a sample amount of individuals regarding infections/reinfections and whatnot; this included placebos. P/M done theirs when cases were rising. J&J had done theirs at the peak of highest cases. They will have a lower efficacy rate because of the high amount of infections versus P/M trials.

The reason behind why Pfizer/Moderna are two shots versus J&J's single shot has to do with logistics. P/M already had a lot of vaccines going into production and wanted to get as many people half vaccinated as possible with what's at hand versus less people with the deadlines set by the government. More people with it at half > less people at full while cases go up in the states. J&J are late to the vaccine game, but they are doing one shot one deal so they don't need to split theirs.

I appreciate what you’re saying and I agree with you. I feel as if the one shot of Moderna currently in my system will prevent me from getting seriously sick, and I look forward to getting my second shot on April 16. With variants on the rise and more waves apparently heading our way, we’re in bad straits again unless people get their shots.

 

[livinthedream]

i got the moderna. first shot, just the sore arm. second shot hit me overnight. felt like i was getting the flu. arm hurt, every joint in my body hurts, chills.
the person who gave me the shot told me she had a terrible reaction to the pfizer one.

 

[Spa1123]

According to this article published at the U of Calif, SF's website, the J&J vaccine continues to increase efficacy after the 2 weeks used in the testing. But the main takeaway, as Magiktung has said, is that any of these 3 vaccines are close to 100% protective against hospitalization and death.

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2021/03/4...n-covid-19-vaccine-heres-what-you-should-know

 

[ronaldshoe]

That’s about right. In the studies, ZERO people were hospitalized, experienced severe symptoms, or died with full doses of any of the vaccines. The vaccines do not 100% prevent disease. They do prevent death, severe symptoms, and hospitalization.

I’ll say it again ZERO.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/31/covid-19-after-getting-of-vaccine/

 

[Magiktung]

https://nypost.com/2021/03/31/covid-19-after-getting-of-vaccine/

Last paragraph confirms what I said. She had mild symptoms, and all clinical studies bear that it’s akin to a common cold. In fact the conclusion in the studies are that if you get covid after vaccine, you may never even know, you will shrug it off as a common cold.

 

[iwould789]

 

[Magiktung]

And you need multiple doses. 100% effective.

 

[Cheyenne]

those looking for the J&J shot, this is why you can't find it. Pretty big screw up

"The news that the contractor, Emergent BioSolutions, had ruined 15 million doses of Johnson & Johnson's vaccine by mistakenly mixing it with ingredients from another coronavirus shot became public on Wednesday"