Lower tip for ATF

[Vettecat98]

I want to teach my ATF(HE only) a lesson. I’m alll over the board on tip with her for HE, sometimes 40,50,60 it depends on the enthusiasm. Well I think she’s playing me with bullshit while I’m under her spell in the spa and I want to get her in check. If I tell her massage only, what should I tip her? 20?

 

[kgmspa]

Dont play games. Set the price with her. Be honest and straightforward.

 

[Vettecat98]

Kman, you’re right but this is the only game she gets. Believe me I’ve been real straightforward. I created this monster and I need to get her back in check.

 

[kgmspa]

Service is based on price. Not variable. I recently payed a few hundred for what me and girl agreed in private setting in Hotel. She is special too me so I pay more. We had a great time for a few hours.

 

[kgmspa]

Thinking you control is a mistake. You dont. Only she decides but stand your ground

 

[kgmspa]

Keep in mind Vcat. Its hard work even HJ. Up the price. If still no joy then find a new girl that will appreciate you

 

[kgmspa]

Always leave it up to girl service level! Always push the limit! Always pay!

 

[kgmspa]

Most important. If you want repeat and best then talk to her about it. Most girls know guys, especially massage girls, really well. You will not train her unless you have an understanding then maybe you learn new things together. And even then. Expect she is smarter than you!

 

[kgmspa]

As my chinese massage GF says. They are crazy. So many SPAs. They think they know everything. Find new SPA. She doesnt care about everyday business. Its just work. She is very sweet though I suspect with all customers!

 

[kgmspa]

So find a girl. Decide what you want. See if she agrees. Open your wallet. Treat her like she is the cutest on planet earth. (she should be). And have a great time. Your time together will eventually end. All good things come to an end. Then you restart. Sometimes same girl. Never know. Life is ever changing.

 

[Vettecat98]

Kman, how do you work this stuff out with your Chinese GF? Doesn’t she work 6 or 7 days a week with no spare time?

 

[kgmspa]

Good question! I have her phone number!

 

[Vettecat98]

Just tell me one thing, is she at one of the spas on rt 611? Cause your making me nervous. LOL

 

[kgmspa]

I only take her number if she suggests. I never ask.

 

[kgmspa]

Just tell me one thing, is she at one of the spas on rt 611? Cause your making me nervous. LOL

She will not allow me to review ever again. But no.

 

[Vettecat98]

Did you see my question?lol

 

[Vettecat98]

Roger, you’re alright in my book

 

[kgmspa]

Roger, you’re alright in my book

Her wishes. I must honor. She is Chinese so Trust is critical!

 

[kgmspa]

@Vcat She is also my friend. So even if she moves away I hope to hear from her. I wish her the best!

 

[Wayne1250]

This subject about ATF's could be the topic of a self help book with descriptive stories to illustrate the different points. Not even something I would begin to type on my phone.

ATF's often become more like girlfriends, and gilfriends are never less expensive than just a one hour provider. In order to get to another level you have to be willing to do more for her to show her she is special. In return she will do the same for you.

I will say like already said communication between seeing her in or out of the spa/agency is critical for establishing a relationship past monger/provider.

This is my 1/2 percent out of the entire subject.