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Let's say a bust happens
- Thread starter tinkerman77
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Gentlemen, may I intervene? There is a hair of truth in many of your comments however, much requires calarification. Should your name, your address, your license with photo appear in their records, it is for all intents and purposes not an issue. Robert Kraft was (a) caught in the act on video in the course of an undercover sting (b) he is Robert Kraft. The holy grail of a bust is to take down a famous personality.
Getting published into the newspapers dates back to the " John Law" during the cleanup of New York City. Notice the name 'John' in the title, as in you got caught with your pants down. In that scenario, perhaps in an election year, they might post photos and the like in the paper. Highly unlikely. It opens the city up to too many lawsuits. Times are different today. During the bust of 2017, money laundering and tax evasion were the core areas of focus. The Feds confiscated over 70,000 names, photos, and phone numbers across 12 spas. Not one person was ever contacted nor published.
When should you be concerned? When you are handcuffed, booked, taken to Queens detention center or Rikers Island on a Friday and held until Tuesday for arraignment and or a bail/bond hearing. Believe me, you will know when it is time to worry. One thing I will caution you about, always bring some ID with you. I have read several reviews here where mongers boast of never bringing ID with them. LE has a right to ask you for ID. You must present it to an officer on demand. They have the authority to know who you are. There could be a warrent out for your arrest. You could be on parole ( not supposed to be at an AMP if you are). They have the right to detain you for 72 hours without charging you. Bring some pitcure ID with you. It is a long 72 hours.
99.9% of the time, unless you are caught in the act or passing money to an undercover person, male or female, nothing will happen. Do not be concerned about your name in the files. Be more concerned about winding up on the dark web or indentiy theft.
Getting published into the newspapers dates back to the " John Law" during the cleanup of New York City. Notice the name 'John' in the title, as in you got caught with your pants down. In that scenario, perhaps in an election year, they might post photos and the like in the paper. Highly unlikely. It opens the city up to too many lawsuits. Times are different today. During the bust of 2017, money laundering and tax evasion were the core areas of focus. The Feds confiscated over 70,000 names, photos, and phone numbers across 12 spas. Not one person was ever contacted nor published.
When should you be concerned? When you are handcuffed, booked, taken to Queens detention center or Rikers Island on a Friday and held until Tuesday for arraignment and or a bail/bond hearing. Believe me, you will know when it is time to worry. One thing I will caution you about, always bring some ID with you. I have read several reviews here where mongers boast of never bringing ID with them. LE has a right to ask you for ID. You must present it to an officer on demand. They have the authority to know who you are. There could be a warrent out for your arrest. You could be on parole ( not supposed to be at an AMP if you are). They have the right to detain you for 72 hours without charging you. Bring some pitcure ID with you. It is a long 72 hours.
99.9% of the time, unless you are caught in the act or passing money to an undercover person, male or female, nothing will happen. Do not be concerned about your name in the files. Be more concerned about winding up on the dark web or indentiy theft.
You have missed the number one thing a monger should be concerned about and that is their employment.
You are no doubt an attorney with your impressive knowledge of the law and procedures. But you get arrested on a prostitution charge your law firm will get rid of you. You need to disclose it or face even more shit.
Most serious mongers are professionals like finance , law etc. That's how they can pay for the hobby. So if a monger wants a reality check he should look at the code of conduct that they attest to each year and understand that a prostitution bust means the end. So the all stuff that happens after a bust like plea bargains etc mean very little since the mere arrest itself will destroy your life ... unless of coarse you have another way to make 350k a year .
You are no doubt an attorney with your impressive knowledge of the law and procedures. But you get arrested on a prostitution charge your law firm will get rid of you. You need to disclose it or face even more shit.
Most serious mongers are professionals like finance , law etc. That's how they can pay for the hobby. So if a monger wants a reality check he should look at the code of conduct that they attest to each year and understand that a prostitution bust means the end. So the all stuff that happens after a bust like plea bargains etc mean very little since the mere arrest itself will destroy your life ... unless of coarse you have another way to make 350k a year .
Guys, these busts where mongers are arrested and pictures posted in the paper are from POLICE STINGS. Not AMP busts.
cops posing as street hookers and hotel escorts should be avoided.
Cops are not arresting mongers at a massage place. The cops raid them bc of money laundering issues or noise complaints. They aren’t after the Johns. Especially in NYC.
Silk Tigers and many other were busted a few years back for laundering $. No John was arrested.
cops posing as street hookers and hotel escorts should be avoided.
Cops are not arresting mongers at a massage place. The cops raid them bc of money laundering issues or noise complaints. They aren’t after the Johns. Especially in NYC.
Silk Tigers and many other were busted a few years back for laundering $. No John was arrested.
Your observation regarding hotel situations is correct .
If you would like a good tip keep this one in your hat -
Aside from never utilizing women with no reviews or a phone number that Googles to nowhere , never see an in call woman at a hotel who will not offer outcalls in NYC . Why?
That is an indication the room is possibly wired , officers are in the adjoining room etc. it could be a setup. Not saying all the time . Most well known pros offer outcall , many prefer it or offer only outcall to slip the cost of a hotel room .
If God forbid you ignored the instincts of the big head opting instead for the little head, and find yourself wondering if it’s a setup, do this :
Offer no money, do not discuss sex, immediately try to kiss , grab her breasts , rub her ass. If she backs away demanding money, simply say “ Im sorry I think I have the wrong room “ Cut and run out the door exit stage left . That is a sting
If you would like a good tip keep this one in your hat -
Aside from never utilizing women with no reviews or a phone number that Googles to nowhere , never see an in call woman at a hotel who will not offer outcalls in NYC . Why?
That is an indication the room is possibly wired , officers are in the adjoining room etc. it could be a setup. Not saying all the time . Most well known pros offer outcall , many prefer it or offer only outcall to slip the cost of a hotel room .
If God forbid you ignored the instincts of the big head opting instead for the little head, and find yourself wondering if it’s a setup, do this :
Offer no money, do not discuss sex, immediately try to kiss , grab her breasts , rub her ass. If she backs away demanding money, simply say “ Im sorry I think I have the wrong room “ Cut and run out the door exit stage left . That is a sting
It’s like taxes and the IRS . The same rules of attraction and engagement apply :
(1) Repetitive cash transactions into a bank account without a supporting tax return.
(2) Offshore transfers equal to the cash deposits on a daily or weekly basis .
(3) Maintaining a lease without filing corporate taxes on a state or federal level
(4) Flashing the cash - high living inclusive of expensive real estate , especially an all cash closing , driving a six digit car - basically living like a rock star with no visible source of income
(5) Advertising on the web or social media including descriptions like BBBJ or GFE .
One needs to wake the sleeping giant up in. order to garner that type of attention. When you do, rest assured, you will not like what happens next .
Low profile , proper screening and having an accountant set you up as a legitimate business all help to mitigate risk. If you get busted but pay taxes , worst you will draw is practicing massage without a license -
Aim low shoot high - happy humoring
(1) Repetitive cash transactions into a bank account without a supporting tax return.
(2) Offshore transfers equal to the cash deposits on a daily or weekly basis .
(3) Maintaining a lease without filing corporate taxes on a state or federal level
(4) Flashing the cash - high living inclusive of expensive real estate , especially an all cash closing , driving a six digit car - basically living like a rock star with no visible source of income
(5) Advertising on the web or social media including descriptions like BBBJ or GFE .
One needs to wake the sleeping giant up in. order to garner that type of attention. When you do, rest assured, you will not like what happens next .
Low profile , proper screening and having an accountant set you up as a legitimate business all help to mitigate risk. If you get busted but pay taxes , worst you will draw is practicing massage without a license -
Aim low shoot high - happy humoring