KTV Girls in Flushing

[이 회장님]

Just get feels on the girls and that it? You guys dance in the rooms and party to? I feel like that's part of the Chinese KTV experience.
In the beginning you play drinking games with the girls and as everyone get drunk we all get up and start dancing in the room to the music until the place closes

I don't mind trying the Korean version at some point one time but if all they will do is sit there and flirt with you I probably wouldn't be too into it....

Very few Koreans like to play games. Some Koreans will put $500 in a cup and place it in the middle of the table and tell each girl that whoever is the most freak will get that. That’s when some of them will open up.

Dancing, singing and light kissing is very common.

Many Koreans ask for a “4차원” (Sa Cha Won) girl. This means a crazy freak who is open and down for anything. These are the ones who who can take to an empty karaoke room and get head. They are usually older (early 30s) and need the money.

 

[이 회장님]

Where are these Japanese Piano Bar? Like what's the name of one in the city?

Midtown East Side between 30th to 40th Street. They are Japanese restaurants during the day and transform into a Piano Bar at night.

Non-Japanese like you and me will need to have someone vouch for us. I was a regular at Kaoru (which is now closed) because I met the owner and her husband at a golf tournament.

The dress code is strict, business casual (suit).

 

[TheRealone]

Very few Koreans like to play games. Some Koreans will put $500 in a cup and place it in the middle of the table and tell each girl that whoever is the most freak will get that. That’s when some of them will open up.

Dancing, singing and light kissing is very common.

Many Koreans ask for a “4차원” (Sa Cha Won) girl. This means a crazy freak who is open and down for anything. These are the ones who who can take to an empty karaoke room and get head. They are usually older (early 30s) and need the money.

Ok so it's more an emphasis on touching and dancing at these places that clears things up. I'll probably DM you at some point in January asking for help with reserving a room if that's cool. (I think you mentioned you need to know the manager) Or is it better to just call them directly and request to reserve a room?

 

[이 회장님]

Ok so it's more an emphasis on touching and dancing at these places that clears things up. I'll probably DM you at some point in January asking for help with reserving a room if that's cool. (I think you mentioned you need to know the manager) Or is it better to just call them directly and request to reserve a room?

Send me a DM Bro. I can then let the owner and manager know so they take very good care of you.

I recommend to wait until mid-January. The popular, young and hot girls will take a two-week break so now the room salons will have just the older and average-looking one so it’s not worth your time and money.

 

[flushrover]

You’re right—at the Japanese Piano Bars, you don’t have to tip the girls.



All Korean room salons are inside a private Karaoke room. It’s not an open bar. As for “after hours”, it’s between you and the girl. The girls usually want a nice dinner such as steak or Omakase and $500 for a few hours at a hotel.

Yes, at the Korean room salons, you tip the girl directly.

Greetings "Chairman Lee." I like the moniker.

As I say, I don't know the Korean scene very well. I went to a few bars in the vacinity of 162 Street. These are Korean-style piano bars as far as I know. They are not big enough to have tables like most Japanese places, but you sit at the bar. There are half doezen or so girls behind the bar and they talk and drink with you. Depending on how busy it is, you can get a couple of girls or just one. That one may flit between two groups if it's busy enough, but mostly you get at least one to stay with you and drink with you on your time.

They all also have one to three Karaoke boxes that you can take the girl to.

What do you mean by "Korean room salon"?

The Japanese Piano Bars still have the same concept as what you explained.

Yeah, I didn't expect that would change. It's been decades since I've been to one in Midtown, but if you adjust for inflation, they are quite a bit more expensive than the Korean ones I'm talking about now.

The girl standing behind the bar and drinking with you, was this a Japanese Piano Bar? If so, then she was the barista/bartender and not a piano bar girl.

No, no. Not Japanese, Korean. I know the Japanese places have baristas that are not the same as the girls who talk with you. That's mostly because you usually get a table with the girl.

No, this girl was def a piano bar girl. She spent at least an hour talking and drinking with us, telling me how "gorgous" I am and the like. LOL. She was quite good at her job. Pretty much the same as the Japanese are.

What I'm wondering is how much tip she should expect for that? Let's say we were there for about an hour and a half. I'd say she spent aprox an hour of that time directly drinking with us. A coupld of times, boss moved her as it was getting busy, but she came right back each time after about 15 min or so. In this particular place, the girl stayed on her side of the bar. (I've been to others where they will come sit next to you and start touching you if it's not busy.)

I think the tip we put on the bill was at least $50 (bill was $80) which was paid with the bill. I was worried that wasn't enough so I gave the girl $40 directly. She seemed happy with that and I think that should have been enough, but I just want to hear your take on it.

Compared to the expense of the Japanese bars I knew in Midtown, this is peanuts. But I want to make sure I'm not under tipping. The Korean clientele looked average, not high class business as in the Japanese places, so I don't expect they were tipping much more. But it doesn't hurt to make sure.

I still want to know what goes on in those karaoke boxes and at what prices...

 

[flushrover]

Where are these Japanese Piano Bar? Like what's the name of one in the city?

One I can remember was "Nami." This was decades ago. Before 2000, Nami-san retired and sold the place, which retained the name. No idea if it is still in existence. I doubt it. But there are plenty more, I'm sure.

Don't get too excited at the idea that you don't have to tip the girls. Between the cover charge and the price of the bottles, you are paying much more at such places. But you won't really be touching the girls at all, so you have to decide if that's what you want to pay for.

Japanese piano bars are places for business men to go out with each other and form the bond they like to have when they do business together. The bill is almost always expensed to the company, as a cost of doing business.

 

[이 회장님]

Greetings "Chairman Lee." I like the moniker.

As I say, I don't know the Korean scene very well. I went to a few bars in the vacinity of 162 Street. These are Korean-style piano bars as far as I know. They are not big enough to have tables like most Japanese places, but you sit at the bar. There are half doezen or so girls behind the bar and they talk and drink with you. Depending on how busy it is, you can get a couple of girls or just one. That one may flit between two groups if it's busy enough, but mostly you get at least one to stay with you and drink with you on your time.

They all also have one to three Karaoke boxes that you can take the girl to.

What do you mean by "Korean room salon"?


Yeah, I didn't expect that would change. It's been decades since I've been to one in Midtown, but if you adjust for inflation, they are quite a bit more expensive than the Korean ones I'm talking about now.



No, no. Not Japanese, Korean. I know the Japanese places have baristas that are not the same as the girls who talk with you. That's mostly because you usually get a table with the girl.

No, this girl was def a piano bar girl. She spent at least an hour talking and drinking with us, telling me how "gorgous" I am and the like. LOL. She was quite good at her job. Pretty much the same as the Japanese are.

What I'm wondering is how much tip she should expect for that? Let's say we were there for about an hour and a half. I'd say she spent aprox an hour of that time directly drinking with us. A coupld of times, boss moved her as it was getting busy, but she came right back each time after about 15 min or so. In this particular place, the girl stayed on her side of the bar. (I've been to others where they will come sit next to you and start touching you if it's not busy.)

I think the tip we put on the bill was at least $50 (bill was $80) which was paid with the bill. I was worried that wasn't enough so I gave the girl $40 directly. She seemed happy with that and I think that should have been enough, but I just want to hear your take on it.

Compared to the expense of the Japanese bars I knew in Midtown, this is peanuts. But I want to make sure I'm not under tipping. The Korean clientele looked average, not high class business as in the Japanese places, so I don't expect they were tipping much more. But it doesn't hurt to make sure.

I still want to know what goes on in those karaoke boxes and at what prices...

At the Japanese Piano Bars, there is no need to tip them.

The ones you went to along 162nd Street are open bars with Yanbian and North Korean women. These are a more casual atmosphere compared to the room salons (a place where you have a private karaoke room and drink, sing, dance and be a bit intimate with the girl).

 

[TheRealone]

Well I went back again guys lol.

Was Saturday night around 6pm one of my Chinese friends texted me asking if I was down to party with them again which I agreed to.
Around 10:30pm I ubered to my friends house to pick him up and we headed back to the same KTV spot attached to the One Botique hotel. Arrived around 11pm and requested the big room in the back.
This is my third weekend in a row coming back to this place and would appear the servers are getting to know me pretty well now. Mamasa came in and greeted us when I requested for a bottle of grey goose and 3 girls.
Line up of girls came in and I saw that 3 of them were the same from last week. Also will say the girls that I recognized seemed genuinely surprised we had come back again so soon. Decided to pick two of the same girls from last weekend as we had a great time with them and I let my friend pick the third girl from out of the lineup. After liquor came out we started playing dice again till I wanna say until 1am when some other friends arrived and started drinking and playing with us.
Also around this time the owner himself came into the room and greeted me with 3 more girls which he said were "on the house." Very nice guy he gave me his cell number and told me will be half off tonight. (Also he gave us two buckets of beer for free.)
One of the girls I think was very interested at around this point as when he left she started rubbing her tits hard on me. (Was a bit too drunk to do much also she didn't speak any English)
Ended up getting another bottle and dancing until 4-5am when the Mamasa and server came to me with the check. Was like $450 total which I think was a good deal as we had 2 bottles of grey goose with mixers and 24 beers. I tipper the server and mamasa $100 each and gave the 3 girls we picked $300 each totaling out at $1450.
Around 5am we start getting ready to leave and I am completed wasted lol when my friend says "lets get some food." 3 of the girls ended up coming with us to a Chinese restaurant on Roosevelt. These girls order MAD food lol which I didn't really care but no way we were going to eat it all. Was $240 total for everything and they took most of it to go.
Around 6am we called a car to head home and the girls left in a separate uber.
Overall very fun night and I think next time if I catch the same girls I can probably take one of them home with me. The owner mentioned to me "one of the girls was looking for someone."

 

[이 회장님]

Well I went back again guys lol.

Was Saturday night around 6pm one of my Chinese friends texted me asking if I was down to party with them again which I agreed to.
Around 10:30pm I ubered to my friends house to pick him up and we headed back to the same KTV spot attached to the One Botique hotel. Arrived around 11pm and requested the big room in the back.
This is my third weekend in a row coming back to this place and would appear the servers are getting to know me pretty well now. Mamasa came in and greeted us when I requested for a bottle of grey goose and 3 girls.
Line up of girls came in and I saw that 3 of them were the same from last week. Also will say the girls that I recognized seemed genuinely surprised we had come back again so soon. Decided to pick two of the same girls from last weekend as we had a great time with them and I let my friend pick the third girl from out of the lineup. After liquor came out we started playing dice again till I wanna say until 1am when some other friends arrived and started drinking and playing with us.
Also around this time the owner himself came into the room and greeted me with 3 more girls which he said were "on the house." Very nice guy he gave me his cell number and told me will be half off tonight. (Also he gave us two buckets of beer for free.)
One of the girls I think was very interested at around this point as when he left she started rubbing her tits hard on me. (Was a bit too drunk to do much also she didn't speak any English)
Ended up getting another bottle and dancing until 4-5am when the Mamasa and server came to me with the check. Was like $450 total which I think was a good deal as we had 2 bottles of grey goose with mixers and 24 beers. I tipper the server and mamasa $100 each and gave the 3 girls we picked $300 each totaling out at $1450.
Around 5am we start getting ready to leave and I am completed wasted lol when my friend says "lets get some food." 3 of the girls ended up coming with us to a Chinese restaurant on Roosevelt. These girls order MAD food lol which I didn't really care but no way we were going to eat it all. Was $240 total for everything and they took most of it to go.
Around 6am we called a car to head home and the girls left in a separate uber.
Overall very fun night and I think next time if I catch the same girls I can probably take one of them home with me. The owner mentioned to me "one of the girls was looking for someone."

Bro, since those girls hung out with you afterwards, next time is great sex!! Let’s go together in early Feb

 

[TheRealone]

Bro, since those girls hung out with you afterwards, next time is great sex!! Let’s go together in early Feb

Yeah most definitely let’s go in Feb.

I do think if I see them again I could probably smash.
You bring the girls back home with you or do you usually go to a hotel? I was thinking next time to get a room at the Parc hotel and bring one back there.
Although I highly doubt I’ll be able to smash end of the night after partying….

 

[이 회장님]

Yeah most definitely let’s go in Feb.

I do think if I see them again I could probably smash.
You bring the girls back home with you or do you usually go to a hotel? I was thinking next time to get a room at the Parc hotel and bring one back there.
Although I highly doubt I’ll be able to smash end of the night after partying….

In my experience, the girls are more comfortable if you bring them home. Have sex, sleep together, have sex again in the morning/afternoon and have breakfast or lunch together.

 

[TheRealone]

In my experience, the girls are more comfortable if you bring them home. Have sex, sleep together, have sex again in the morning/afternoon and have breakfast or lunch together.

That’s a pretty good idea.
I’m just kinda worried she won’t leave in all honesty.

 

[이 회장님]

That’s a pretty good idea.
I’m just kinda worried she won’t leave in all honesty.

They will leave because they have to go home, take a shower, put on make up and get ready for work.

 

[TheRealone]

They will leave because they have to go home, take a shower, put on make up and get ready for work.

Tushay lol.
Hopefully I can catch one of them next time I go.
Will probably take this weekend off since I have been going every weekend last 3 weeks.

 

[TheRealone]

I wonder how much these girls actually make doing this.
Like they hung out in my room exclusively all night and didn’t go to any other rooms.
And got $300 each from me. Doesn’t seem THAT profitable.

 

[krideynyc]

I wonder how much these girls actually make doing this.

It's mostly an investment in time. They make enough to pay rent and living expenses (often having roommate(s)). Some pocket money. They are just waiting to snag a SD or husband for the payoff.

 

[TheRealone]

It's mostly an investment in time. They make enough to pay rent and living expenses (often having roommate(s)). Some pocket money. They are just waiting to snag a SD or husband for the payoff.

Yeah the owner mentioned to me one of the girls I was chilling with on Saturday was "looking for someone." That one my friend told me I could have taken her home but I was too drunk to really think clearly. Also I think the language barrier is a slight obstacle.
With that said I am going to try next time I go back.

 

[Bigdunker101]

This is fascinating. I don't know if it's cultural, y'all spent your whole life hitting the books hard and not getting laid. But now you asian boys throw money around.. making it rain like some rappers. Like unthinkable money to hang out with some chicks at their work. I'm mind blown.

 

[Bigdunker101]

And theres too many transactions and tipping mommyson. Too much work with this.

 

[TheRealone]

This is fascinating. I don't know if it's cultural, y'all spent your whole life hitting the books hard and not getting laid. But now you asian boys throw money around.. making it rain like some rappers. Like unthinkable money to hang out with some chicks at their work. I'm mind blown.

So basically we “Asians” didn’t really party, get laid, or have fun in our teen years.
We hit the books and studied hard and made sure we got careers making good money.
And now at the top of our professions we have free time on the weekends and like to unwind at spots that have been illustrated in this thread.

If you don’t understand then it just means we live in different worlds IMO.