KTV Girls in Flushing

[TheRealone]

Hey fellow mongers! I'm looking for some feedback on a recent experience I had.

Over the Christmas weekend I linked up with one of my Chinese friends at the Parc rooftop in Flushing and had some drinks. At around 2am he took me to this KTV lounge near the One Boutique hotel on Northern Blvd. Was my first time at one of these spots and myself but have to say very impressed by the setup.
Paid $300 for a bottle of grey goose, mixers and beers. They also had a Mamasa who came to the room with a lineup of 7 girls for us to choose from who were all in their early 20s and very attractive. Tipped the mamasa $100 for bringing the girls and paid the girls $300 a piece $600 total for them to hang out with us. We then proceeded to drink, sing, dance and play games with the girls until 5am. The girls were very flirty the whole time and let us catch feels on them while we were partying.
Towards the end of the night one of them left around 4:30am while the other one hung out with us until we left. (She was pretty drunk) My friend told me "take her home with you" and I was getting the impression I probably could have but I was intoxicated myself and didn't want to attempt to bring someone randomly home on my first go at this.

Which leads to my bigger question.
Can you get full serviced at these places? I was reading this is apparently a big thing in China where after paying all the fees I illustrated above you can bring the girls to a hotel or your house for an additional fee and have some fun with them. The girls at this spot were a lot hotter than the average AMP join so I think it may be worth to try it.

 

[TheRealone]

Also I should point out the spot that I went to is attached to the Boutique hotel. So I imagine it would be fairly easy to grab a girl and get a room for a quick lay, provided she agrees.

 

[이 회장님]

If you are there until closing time then you can ask the girl to “spend time with you outside of the establishment”. Discuss this only with the girl and not with management.

I’ve had Chinese clients treat me to a KTV twice and the girls are young and attractive. If you meet them during the afternoon then they will show up in their Balenciaga sneakers, Dior bag and Gucci cap. lol

They love going to Hot Pot to eat.

 

[이 회장님]

Also in my experience, the Chinese KTV and Korean room salon girls are a bit cocky and have a severe princess attitude.

Amp women are not as attractive but they are much more mature, humble and appreciative.

 

[TheRealone]

Also in my experience, the Chinese KTV and Korean room salon girls are a bit cocky and have a severe princess attitude.

Amp women are not as attractive but they are much more mature, humble and appreciative.

Yeah that's all SB's I think. It does sound like these girls are all doing SB as a side hustle along with all this KTV/Salon rooms.
I do think because I don't speak their language it won't come across as bad though.

 

[이 회장님]

Yeah that's all SB's I think. It does sound like these girls are all doing SB as a side hustle along with all this KTV/Salon rooms.
I do think because I don't speak their language it won't come across as bad though.

The slight language barrier is fine. I recommend communicating with them via Kakao or WeChat.

 

[이 회장님]

Many of the Korean room salon girls will attend pilates classes at around 1pm. And from 2 to 4pm, you will see many of them eating at hot pot places such as Haidilao or Spring Shabu Shabu or Park San Bal which is a popular meat soup restaurant at 162nd Street.

Many of them have a hangover so they need to have some broth or hot pot.

And then they all go to Starbucks for coffee. I prefer Dunkin. lol

 

[kevinongg]

Price is actually $200, you overpaid or they got you good. Most are actually civvie girls working there and they don't provide FS. If they go home with you for a price, then they are a hooker in disguise. You have to spit some game to get pussy. From what you said about your girl, she seems interested in you.

 

[TheRealone]

Price is actually $200, you overpaid or they got you good. Most are actually civvie girls working there and they don't provide FS. If they go home with you for a price, then they are a hooker in disguise. You have to spit some game to get pussy. From what you said about your girl, she seems interested in you.

What do you mean by “civvie” girls? Lol
Was a fun time overall I’ll say cause I learned how to play the Chinese dice.

 

[krideynyc]

What do you mean by “civvie” girls? Lol

Girls that work at the bar, but aren't on the game. But, a lot of those "civvies" would be fine with being a SB.

 

[kevinongg]

What do you mean by “civvie” girls? Lol
Was a fun time overall I’ll say cause I learned how to play the Chinese dice.

Means their just normal girls, not hookers. Glad you had fun but next time you go to one of these KTV spots, my advice is don't ever pay them more than $200. Precovid was $100, fun times .

 

[이 회장님]

I’m not too familiar with the Chinese KTVs.

At the Korean room salons, many of these girls are on expired visas and during the day, they attend pilates classes, get their hair and nails done and meet up with customers.

For the Japanese piano bars, many of the girls have daytime jobs such as working at a retail store or working as a secretary for a Japanese law firm.

Korean room salon girls are hot but they are very arrogant. And the Japanese Piano bar girls are very humble, nice and respectful.

 

[flushrover]

I’m not too familiar with the Chinese KTVs.

At the Korean room salons, many of these girls are on expired visas and during the day, they attend pilates classes, get their hair and nails done and meet up with customers.

For the Japanese piano bars, many of the girls have daytime jobs such as working at a retail store or working as a secretary for a Japanese law firm.

Korean room salon girls are hot but they are very arrogant. And the Japanese Piano bar girls are very humble, nice and respectful.

I have lots of experience with Japanese piano bars. Not much at all with Korean ones. It's obvious to me that they are very similar, yet different at the same time.

I don't yet quite understand the game with the Koreans. They will get closer to you, touch you and let you touch them, and it seems they expect a tip for this (unlike Japanese, which don't touch you and you don't have to tip them. Talking and drinking only.)

I am suspecting you can take the Koreans into the karaoke box and negotiate, but I haven't yet tried this. I also suspect they are available "after hours."

So, a few basic questions about these K-girls, if you don't mind as you seem more knowledgeable in this.

If the girl sits next to you and starts touching you, etc. I'm assuming this would command a higher tip? I ask because an earlier time, this happened to me, but I didn't tip her directly (I did tip on the bill.) because I was still thinking in Japanese piano bar mode... I think she was pissed. ooops.

If the girl just stands behind the bar and drinks with you, what kind of tip would be customary? The other night, was only drinking for maybe 1.5 hr. Bill was less than $100. Tipped $40 on the bill and $40 to the girl directly into her hand. Not sure if this was enough, too much or whatever? LOL Unlike the last girl, she seemed pleased, so I guess it was fine.

If you take them alone into a karaoke box, what's on the menu and at what prices?

I don't know if things have changed, but back when I was doing the Japanese piano bar scene, you paid the rather large house fee, paid for any bottles, etc, and never tipped the girl for just sitting with you. It was considered part of their job. Haven't been to a Japanese piano bar in 25 years so who knows if it is still the same. I can see the k-bars are def not.

 

[TheRealone]

Means their just normal girls, not hookers. Glad you had fun but next time you go to one of these KTV spots, my advice is don't ever pay them more than $200. Precovid was $100, fun times .

I actually went to the same spot again on Friday night and burned through 2k. I don't know if it was because it's New Years weekend or what but the girls were a lot less flirty this time around but overall had a great time.
Was in the city having cocktails with one of my Chinese friends at Chinato in lower east side then headed over to the KTV attached to the One Botique hotel, arriving around 10:30pm. Was a different mamasa from the previous week but she took good care of us. I requested a bottle of grey goose and 3 girls to accompany us for the night.
Was a little different this time around because when brought the lineup they only showed us 3 girls this time lol. I picked two of them out of the three but I don't know if it was a lack of communication or what it was but the third girl just sat down with us despite me saying no.
The girls I would say were in their early 20s and fairly attractive but once again they didn't initiate any physical contact initially. At some point my friend requested to swap out the girl I didn't like with a different one but the one they brought wasn't very good either so I just let her stay in the end since it would have been awkward at that point. We played Chinese dice for an hour or two while drinking with the girls also the mamasa drank a lot of our bottle and hung with us. Mamasa was in her early 40s, looked very attractive and had a Sally vibe from NYAW vibe, meaning she was fliting with us all night. (I do think she is a former AMP given her looks and personality.)
After a couple of hours we finished our 1st bottle so I ordered a second one and we proceeded to dance around the room with the girls until 5am and called an uber home.

I was pretty wasted and don't remember everything that happened. But I know I walked in with 3k and in the morning when I checked I had 1k left in my wallet.
Total damage- $700 for 2 bottles
$100 tip for server
$100 tip for mamasa
$900 tips for girls
Not sure where the other $200 went lol but I am assuming I tipped a couple of the girls a bit more.
Also I did get mamasa and one of the girls wechat.
Overall great time but will probably want to check out a different spot next time I visit one of these.

 

[TheRealone]

I’m not too familiar with the Chinese KTVs.

At the Korean room salons, many of these girls are on expired visas and during the day, they attend pilates classes, get their hair and nails done and meet up with customers.

For the Japanese piano bars, many of the girls have daytime jobs such as working at a retail store or working as a secretary for a Japanese law firm.

Korean room salon girls are hot but they are very arrogant. And the Japanese Piano bar girls are very humble, nice and respectful.

Aside sing in the Korean room salons what do you guys do? Do they play games with you or what else is there to do?
One thing I liked about the Chinese KTV is that they have dice and mahjong.

 

[이 회장님]

Aside sing in the Korean room salons what do you guys do? Do they play games with you or what else is there to do?
One thing I liked about the Chinese KTV is that they have dice and mahjong.

Dice and Mahjong are not popular among Koreans. We would usually dim the lights (make the room very dark) and then each guy will get busy with their girl. lol

 

[이 회장님]

I actually went to the same spot again on Friday night and burned through 2k. I don't know if it was because it's New Years weekend or what but the girls were a lot less flirty this time around but overall had a great time.
Was in the city having cocktails with one of my Chinese friends at Chinato in lower east side then headed over to the KTV attached to the One Botique hotel, arriving around 10:30pm. Was a different mamasa from the previous week but she took good care of us. I requested a bottle of grey goose and 3 girls to accompany us for the night.
Was a little different this time around because when brought the lineup they only showed us 3 girls this time lol. I picked two of them out of the three but I don't know if it was a lack of communication or what it was but the third girl just sat down with us despite me saying no.
The girls I would say were in their early 20s and fairly attractive but once again they didn't initiate any physical contact initially. At some point my friend requested to swap out the girl I didn't like with a different one but the one they brought wasn't very good either so I just let her stay in the end since it would have been awkward at that point. We played Chinese dice for an hour or two while drinking with the girls also the mamasa drank a lot of our bottle and hung with us. Mamasa was in her early 40s, looked very attractive and had a Sally vibe from NYAW vibe, meaning she was fliting with us all night. (I do think she is a former AMP given her looks and personality.)
After a couple of hours we finished our 1st bottle so I ordered a second one and we proceeded to dance around the room with the girls until 5am and called an uber home.

I was pretty wasted and don't remember everything that happened. But I know I walked in with 3k and in the morning when I checked I had 1k left in my wallet.
Total damage- $700 for 2 bottles
$100 tip for server
$100 tip for mamasa
$900 tips for girls
Not sure where the other $200 went lol but I am assuming I tipped a couple of the girls a bit more.
Also I did get mamasa and one of the girls wechat.
Overall great time but will probably want to check out a different spot next time I visit one of these.

December is the busiest month for both Chinese and Korean establishments so I’m sure the girls were just burned out.

The prices are the same as the Korean room salons.

 

[TheRealone]

Dice and Mahjong are not popular among Koreans. We would usually dim the lights (make the room very dark) and then each guy will get busy with their girl. lol

Just get feels on the girls and that it? You guys dance in the rooms and party to? I feel like that's part of the Chinese KTV experience.
In the beginning you play drinking games with the girls and as everyone get drunk we all get up and start dancing in the room to the music until the place closes

I don't mind trying the Korean version at some point one time but if all they will do is sit there and flirt with you I probably wouldn't be too into it....

 

[이 회장님]

I have lots of experience with Japanese piano bars. Not much at all with Korean ones. It's obvious to me that they are very similar, yet different at the same time.

I don't yet quite understand the game with the Koreans. They will get closer to you, touch you and let you touch them, and it seems they expect a tip for this (unlike Japanese, which don't touch you and you don't have to tip them. Talking and drinking only.)

I am suspecting you can take the Koreans into the karaoke box and negotiate, but I haven't yet tried this. I also suspect they are available "after hours."

So, a few basic questions about these K-girls, if you don't mind as you seem more knowledgeable in this.

If the girl sits next to you and starts touching you, etc. I'm assuming this would command a higher tip? I ask because an earlier time, this happened to me, but I didn't tip her directly (I did tip on the bill.) because I was still thinking in Japanese piano bar mode... I think she was pissed. ooops.

If the girl just stands behind the bar and drinks with you, what kind of tip would be customary? The other night, was only drinking for maybe 1.5 hr. Bill was less than $100. Tipped $40 on the bill and $40 to the girl directly into her hand. Not sure if this was enough, too much or whatever? LOL Unlike the last girl, she seemed pleased, so I guess it was fine.

If you take them alone into a karaoke box, what's on the menu and at what prices?

I don't know if things have changed, but back when I was doing the Japanese piano bar scene, you paid the rather large house fee, paid for any bottles, etc, and never tipped the girl for just sitting with you. It was considered part of their job. Haven't been to a Japanese piano bar in 25 years so who knows if it is still the same. I can see the k-bars are def not.

You’re right—at the Japanese Piano Bars, you don’t have to tip the girls.

All Korean room salons are inside a private Karaoke room. It’s not an open bar. As for “after hours”, it’s between you and the girl. The girls usually want a nice dinner such as steak or Omakase and $500 for a few hours at a hotel.

Yes, at the Korean room salons, you tip the girl directly.

The Japanese Piano Bars still have the same concept as what you explained.

The girl standing behind the bar and drinking with you, was this a Japanese Piano Bar? If so, then she was the barista/bartender and not a piano bar girl.

 

[TheRealone]

You’re right—at the Japanese Piano Bars, you don’t have to tip the girls.

Where are these Japanese Piano Bar? Like what's the name of one in the city?