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I need to vent about women

Curiousgeorge87

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Nearly all women are physically unattractive. Especially white women who age terribly. Asian women age dramatically better than whites and it’s a big part of why I got into this hobby. They are also more inherently feminine. Anyway back to women as a whole…

You can show me 1000 college aged girls and I will find only 2 or 3 of those 1000 smoking hot. Maybe another 10 to 20 who are good looking but nothing special. And that’s it. The rest will be average to way below average looking. And this is the age when women are supposed to be at their peak in sexual desirability. And they’re just by in large not attractive, regardless of race.

There’s this website called cuddle comfort where you can pay women to cuddle with you. It’s outrageous how these overweight wildebeests are charging $100+ an hour just to cuddle, and they’re getting business. The more attractive women charge $150+ an hour and always specify that nothing sexual can take place. It enrages me how they can prey on lonely men and don’t even provide them with sexual satisfaction.

Throughout my life I’ve learned one thing for certain. If a woman is extremely good looking, there is going to be something seriously wrong with her. They are usually self centered and lack any depth of character. They are used to getting whatever they want in life and facing very little consequences when they fuck up. They are often cold and callous. Many of them have mental disorders or emotional stability issues. They often have low IQs and believe in dumb shit like astrology to give their life structure and meaning.
 

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Honestly, that sounded way more like you venting about yourself then about women.

I'm going to tell you two true things that you aren't going to like hearing and will very likely want to argue against.

But these two things are so fundamentally true that they pretty much stand for themselves without anyone having to agree with them or me having to provide any further comment or to respond to any comments. The first one is short but the second takes a bit.

1. What we get is what we put out.

And

2. No matter how intelligent or charming you think you are, you can't hide how you feel about people, especially how you feel about women. It comes out in the way you speak and act around them whether you know it or not.

From my experience, most women will know within a few minutes conversation what kind of guy they are talking to, especially how that guy views women. They pay more attention to how we respond to things than we do to them.

If they like what they see/hear then they will keep talking to you, but if they don't they will pretty much say and do whatever just to get rid of you.

Even if it means doing or saying things that makes them seem rude or selfish, they don't really care so long as it gets you away from them. Because they know that if they are rude enough or mean enough you will eventually leave them alone.

I'm 56 years old. I've dated lots of women, struck out with lots of women and watched friends do the same.

It is my firm belief that the reason so many guys believe the things you do about women is because they have been rejected a lot by women who used rudeness and meanness to reject them. (Either that or they are too shy to actually approach women and just brood about it in a bitter grapes kinda way)

So they've come to the conclusion that most women are mean, selfish and rude.

And once they believe this, it comes out in their words and actions, which leads to more rejection and the sad cycle continues.

On the other hand, the guys with confidence, hope and respect for women always do better.

One of my best friends is 5'7" and has a stutter. He is also intelligent, kind and confident. And I mean this guy has the confidence of a lion!

This short stuttering guy (who was not born rich nor made his money before his 40s) not only decided to be a lawyer, but to be a litigator!

And along the way, he dated some pretty beautiful women! Sure he got rejected a bunch, but he never let rejection define his view of himself or his view of women.

Today he is married to a beautiful woman and has a wonderful family. His wife is a statuesque beauty (also a lawyer) who is taller than him and still turns heads (They joke about it a lot) who adores him.

Whenever I hear any guy say things similar to what you said about women, I think about my friend, his beautiful wife and lack of bitterness.

And then I go back to the first truth I told you.

What we get is what we put out.
 

Curiousgeorge87

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I’m not bitter or a troll, I’m a realist. I find Andrew Tate a little cringey. He’s a caricature of masculinity.

It’s fundamentally true that most extremely attractive women are mean, selfish and rude. This isn’t just my experience, it’s every guy I’ve talked to. By extremely attractive I’m not talking about 5s and 6s, I’m talking about 8s+. You’re 56, things were different before social media warped the mind of females. I appreciate the story though, happy for the stutter guy.
 

68manhof

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ever just talk to a girl who is a 9
...even though you have a gf....and all you really wanna do is talk? ,no intention of asking her out...
and she's a little bitchy?

I had this experience with a female bartender AND a female patron at a bar.......place was empty . early afternoon.
no intention of hitting on them
(2 seperate incidents)
they were both a 9. and standoffish and bitchy.

BUT....that was only a small handful of times

ONCE and only once...I encountered a 9 latina Colombian bartender.....she was really cool., intelligent. considerate and laidback.
a unicorn

I think the region you are in...
and social media is a CURRENT factor though
 

Redrain

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I’m not bitter or a troll, I’m a realist. I find Andrew Tate a little cringey. He’s a caricature of masculinity.

It’s fundamentally true that most extremely attractive women are mean, selfish and rude. This isn’t just my experience, it’s every guy I’ve talked to. By extremely attractive I’m not talking about 5s and 6s, I’m talking about 8s+. You’re 56, things were different before social media warped the mind of females. I appreciate the story though, happy for the stutter guy.
You think your generation is the first one where guys said "the older guys had it easier than we did when it came to women!" Lol.

Men have been getting rejected by women since the dawn of time and every single generation has pointed to the men of the last generation saying we had it easier than you do

You can either blame everyone and everything around you or look at yourself and see if it's something you're doing.

Sure blaming society
I’m not bitter or a troll, I’m a realist. I find Andrew Tate a little cringey. He’s a caricature of masculinity.

It’s fundamentally true that most extremely attractive women are mean, selfish and rude. This isn’t just my experience, it’s every guy I’ve talked to. By extremely attractive I’m not talking about 5s and 6s, I’m talking about 8s+. You’re 56, things were different before social media warped the mind of females. I appreciate the story though, happy for the stutter guy.
You think the rejected guys from your generation are the first to point at the older generation and say "you had it easier than we did when it comes to women!" Lol

The rejected guys from my generation said it to my dad's generation the same way the rejected guys from my dad's generation said it to my grandpa's generation! Lol

The rejected men of my generation blamed rock stars and music videos. The ones from my dad's generation blamed TV, and the ones from my grandpa's generation blamed movies the same way you blame social media now! Lol

In every case, the rejected men of every generation have a few things in common. They blame everything and every woman for their loneliness instead of looking inwards with courage and outwards with hope. The grow bitter and their bitterness comes out in their actions and leads to more rejection.

And most importantly,they blame all these things as an excuse not to improve themselves and get psychological help, because it is way easier to see yourself as a hopeless victim of society and mean women then to work on yourself to be healthier and better than you are.

If you asked a woman from my generation, my dad's generation or even my grandpa's time what makes a guy creepy or unattractive you'll probably get the same answers.

Look, I know this sounds cruel but the reasons the women you are attracted to treat you like they do has everything to do with you and almost nothing to do with social media!

When they are looking at you they are looking at you. When they are talking to you they are talking to you. And to the same degree when you are too intimidated or bitter to talk to them, you are the only thing standing in your way.

So either you keep lazily blaming women, society, social media or whatever and stay exactly where you are for the rest of your life or you do the hard work or making yourself better and working on the things that got you to this sad angry place.

Because honestly, these views of women may give you a brief high of feeling righteous indignation, but other than that they just aren't working for you. Lol

They're not making you less lonely, happier or more attractive.

So maybe it's time to try something else?
 

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Nearly all women are physically unattractive. Especially white women who age terribly. Asian women age dramatically better than whites and it’s a big part of why I got into this hobby. They are also more inherently feminine. Anyway back to women as a whole…

You can show me 1000 college aged girls and I will find only 2 or 3 of those 1000 smoking hot. Maybe another 10 to 20 who are good looking but nothing special.
To paraphrase Phil Leotardo, a couple a three things here...

- I agree that the majority of females are unbangable. I would say about 90%. So my estimate would be 100 out of 1000. And this would be for NYC area. I imagine if you lived in a town like where the University of Arizona is, it would be higher.

- All women age terribly, but I agree that asians probably age the best. BUT...when young and bangable (18-29), the prettiest, petite white American girls are by far the most attractive out of all of them.

- getting back to age, even if the asians age better...who cares? They still age. A middle aged bag is a middle aged bag.

- I do agree the asians are more feminine than typical NYC/Northeast American women though. Maybe a Southern girl or a Mormon or something would be pretty feminine too.

- I have no opinions on "cuddling" - never looked into it but seems a waste of time & money, UNLESS the guy is physically impaired/impotent or something, in which case I can certainly understand his reasons for doing that.

- I have known many very beautiful escorts in the past who in fact DID get into things like astrology, crystals, oils/tinctures, tarot cards, yoga, and other kinds of "starchild" crap. And yes they all had BPD and other mental/emotional disorders. But I cannot say that ALL beautiful girls are like this, as I only have known escorts (who usually have some type of psychological issue(s) to begin with. I imagine beautiful girls who are religious and virtuous, like Tim Tebow's wife, are quite normal.

Lastly, to the other posters here, I see no need to call the OP names.
He's merely stating his opinions.
I agreed with some and disagreed with others, but nothing he wrote suggests he's a "troll".
 

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@Redrain

First off; stats show that women only want the top 10-20% of men. So you can say all day long that it’s a guys fault he can’t get women- but the reality of the situation is- 80% of men aren’t trash-women just have too high of standards. Sure- some guys need to step it up- but women are FAR from blameless in how fucked up modern dating is.


Also your posts reek of women having the upper hand when in fact it should be men. There are more women than men in this world. Men naturally bring more to the table than women do. So a woman would be damn lucky to find a good man; not the reverse. To think women are the ones that hold the key to this is classic putting Pussy on a pedestal - and ironically women are turned off by that.
 

Curiousgeorge87

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@Redrain

The detrimental effects of social media are well documented. When you’re an extremely attractive woman and you’re getting showered with attention and likes from a young age, it does something to your psyche - and it’s not good. Do a little research on the rise of male virginity rates and the difficulty men have on dating sites.

I agree that a lot of men have areas they can/should improve in. Myself included. I just don’t think you understand how twisted the dating game is now a days. I have talked with women who are 4s and 5s and they get tons of attention on dating apps. A guy who is a 6 or even a 7 has no hope unless he wants to seriously reduce his standards.
 

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@Redrain

First off; stats show that women only want the top 10-20% of men. So you can say all day long that it’s a guys fault he can’t get women- but the reality of the situation is- 80% of men aren’t trash-women just have too high of standards. Sure- some guys need to step it up- but women are FAR from blameless in how fucked up modern dating is.


Also your posts reek of women having the upper hand when in fact it should be men. There are more women than men in this world. Men naturally bring more to the table than women do. So a woman would be damn lucky to find a good man; not the reverse. To think women are the ones that hold the key to this is classic putting Pussy on a pedestal - and ironically women are turned off by that.
So how are your views and approach to women working out for you? Because I gotta tell you, mine have been working out pretty great for me for the last 46 years lol
 

Redrain

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@Redrain

The detrimental effects of social media are well documented. When you’re an extremely attractive woman and you’re getting showered with attention and likes from a young age, it does something to your psyche - and it’s not good. Do a little research on the rise of male virginity rates and the difficulty men have on dating sites.

I agree that a lot of men have areas they can/should improve in. Myself included. I just don’t think you understand how twisted the dating game is now a days. I have talked with women who are 4s and 5s and they get tons of attention on dating apps. A guy who is a 6 or even a 7 has no hope unless he wants to seriously reduce his standards.
I actually still date and I am also the proud uncle of a nephew in his early twenties who is currently dating and having what he tells me is a pretty amazing time.

I've made it a point as he has grown up to give him all the wonderful advice my dad gave me about women, dating and the self destructiveness of growing bitter or blaming women/society for rejection.

Basically everything I told you.

I am proud of how he treats and views women, but more importantly I am proud of how he treats and views himself, which comes out in how he views women.

I've seen the way his girlfriends look and more importantly how they look at him.

He's my nephew so of course I think he's handsome and smart, but he is definitely no male model.

Best of all he doesn't complain or blame. Instead, he works on himself, moves on from rejection and from what I've seen makes the women he chats up feel incredibly special.

Look, I'm not trying to make you feel bad about yourself

I just want you to understand that it's your behavior and your bitterness and beliefs about women that your behavior reflects that is what is causing the women you approach to treat you as they do (to the extent that you approach women).

All the other stuff isn't nearly as big a deal as you think it is.

The biggest difference between you and the men your age who are doing well with women comes from inside you not from outside.
 

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@Redrain

First off; stats show that women only want the top 10-20% of men. So you can say all day long that it’s a guys fault he can’t get women- but the reality of the situation is- 80% of men aren’t trash-women just have too high of standards. Sure- some guys need to step it up- but women are FAR from blameless in how fucked up modern dating is.
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Your reasoning: Modern women fuck up modern dating because they only want to date the “top 20%” of men. Meanwhile the OP set a new all time high standard of only 2-3 out of 1000 women being acceptably hot. AutoSlim has repeatedly said 90% of women are unbangable. Seems like there’s a pretty telling reason why there are a lot of romantically frustrated people in the world…..
 

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Your reasoning: Modern women fuck up modern dating because they only want to date the “top 20%” of men. Meanwhile the OP set a new all time high standard of only 2-3 out of 1000 women being acceptably hot. AutoSlim has repeatedly said 90% of women are unbangable. Seems like there’s a pretty telling reason why there are a lot of romantically frustrated people in the world…..
Yeah- well I don’t endorse those numbers at all. That being said I do endorse the theme; women have been in a downside with obesity, tattoos, short purple hair, etc. it’s not all of them but it’s a much higher percentage in modern society.
 

markkennedy

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"Nearly all women are unattractive" --- OMG what a ridiculous generalization and extremely specific to your own tastes! Personally I like a mombod, some curves and no fake shit like makeup and boltons and tattoos and weird piercings. I like flaws and unique things. So for me, I'd counter that nearly all women are attractive.

What makes a lady attractive, at least for confident alphas, we look for ladies who pique our current interest. Like tonight, I have interest to eat out a lady with a big pussy. Not a fat lady, but any lady with like a fat bulge at the top of her puss and maybe even a little hairy. The kind you'd smack with an open palm and it'd sound like slappin a fat lady's butt. Long story short a young girl who worked for me just left us Friday for a job closer to her home, and man I enjoyed looking at her with that cameltoe in her yogapants! So I have this interest, and I'm going to go pursue this, even with the snow storm that dumped on our town. But when I go, I have two things I always do. I manage expectations, and I am confident with every word and action and gesture. If they are a bitch as you suggest, I walk away and move along. There are like 2 billion or so ladies in our world, one being a bitch has nothing to do with which delicious meaty pussy I'm going to chow down on today. If you manage expectations, you have no problem taking no for an answer, and no problem moving on when someone is just not clicking right away. It might even happen that I completely strike out. It certainly doesn't change my outlook on which girls are bitches and which girls are affected by the internet or whatever else opinion someone might have.

The claim that the internet fucked girls up or fucked up dating is ridiculous. I mean maybe if you're looking for a life partner or a woman to give you babies and then raise them, I don't know, I haven't tried to pick up a wife in a very very long time. But to find a lady to bang, holy shit the internet is amazing! Between dating sites, the gram, and all the sites for meetups and speed dating, plus the normal things like the gym and the grocery and the bank and the car wash and my lawyer's office and that Spanish teacher at my niece's school, any dude with even an ounce of confidence should be nailing a different chick every time he wants to. I'm an ugly dude with a face like Charles Bronson, but confident to the max, and chicks gravitate toward this way more than some dude who looks like a model. They find out that most male models like to suck dicks or the ones who do like chicks also only like 11s or gals with trust funds. Not chicks who drink at the bar at Applebees on a Tuesday night.

The mention of cuddle comfort, lmao dude if you aren't banging chicks there you REALLY aren't good at reading code. Is so easy to sniff out the ones there who want to be eaten out because their simp husband would rather play with his my little pony dollies or whatever than lick his wife's box. Openly ask them. What are they going to do, shriek and ban you from the site? Who cares lol just sign up with a different name and get licking. So so so many ladies that want to be getting rammed.

And the last paragraph. Dude. I don't know how old you are, but I have the feeling you are very very young and or very very immature. The kinds of girls you listed are EXACTLY the kind you can pick up in a bar and break her bed and be out in time to get to work by 0500. Self-centered? Yea, they want dudes who are interested in treating them like their daddy or their uncle or their ex boyfriend did. They use narcissism to cope with their internal defects and external flaws. Say she's got a big pointy nose. You're as much of a bitch as she is if you don't look at it, or if you turn her down for it. She knows she's got a big pointy nose, and I'm sure dudes have ignored her over it. You want to be licking her butthole before the 11 o clock news, then you make some innocent self-deprecating joke about some obvious flaw you've got, and then give her ye old face-triangle. You know, look at right eye, then left eye, then at her mouth. And for the pointy nose gal, look right at her nose as the both of you are laughing. Chicks all be having mental illness and girls who talk about crystals are always down to take a big load in their mouths, especially if you like god's eyes and reiki massage or whatever she wants you to be into.

Have to be a realist. If the internet fucked up your world, I have to tell you that the internet isn't like going to go away before your cock shrivels up and your balls stop working. So embrace it. Embrace ladies and their flaws, embrace their mental illness. Again, if you're looking for a wife, you may have to internalize the search first, but if you're talking about finding chicks you may like to bang and who will be unhappy when they discover the empty spot in their little bed in the morning, well, the world is yours if you have confidence and manage expectations. The entire universe exists just so dudes that like to lick pussy have pussies to lick. If girls are ruined by the internet, and have some idea that they should only be dating dudes that are 10s, well, who cares? I hate to tell you this but whatever you think about women's appearance today is the EXACT same thing your grandpop and his grandpop and his grandpop and every dude that ever existed thought. Most women who have ever existed are and were like 5s and 6s at their best point in life. The whole point of having a 10 is that there is no 11, and the percent of girls who are 10s is super small. Me, I don't even bother with 10s, is too much work for no return. Usually once you get them undressed, it's all plastic this and taped on that and they always smell like some weird perfume and they always want to be touching their phone instead of deep throating. Set your expectations correctly. Grandfather always said, 5s and 6s make the world go round. Am no saying you should go pick up Kenzo chicks or fat ladies out front of Joanne Fabrics, but man if you live your whole life thinking you just gotta get a 10, you're going to be dead before you fuck your first gal.

And last. Don't put ladies on pedestals. The idea that so few women are attractive means that, for you, the day you find one, you will simp her until you are wearing pink shirts and pink crocs and your ballsack hangs down to your ankles and you carry around her 1000$ handbag while she shops with your credit card and chats up dudes like me right in front of you. All while hoping THIS will be the day she sleeps in the same bed with you and lets you fuck her, with a condom of course. Watch out for those sweatpants, if she's got them on, you just wasted your whole day of simping, again! Don't put the pussy on a pedestal. If you consider the ladies to be a dime a dozen, i.e. maybe like @AutomaticSlim said that all women age badly and are unbangable, then you never put one on a pedestal. You make THEM want YOU more than you want them. Then you eat their pussy and wreck their sofa cushions and then go do something else.

Not joking, the number of women out there who have husbands who prefer their fantasy football draft and shopping for beard wax to fucking is astronomical. I meet at least one every single week. When they are looking for the top 10% of dudes, and discover that the top 10% of dudes have no interest in them, they have choice to either stop getting fucked forever or let a linebacker they met at the grocery Saturday up in their yogapants. Have a little confidence and a realistic view of how you are and how the world is, and you will be much happier. Love women!
 

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So how are your views and approach to women working out for you? Because I gotta tell you, mine have been working out pretty great for me for the last 46 years lol
Doesn’t work well. But my conscience is clear. I am a good guy who is in decent shape with his life mostly together. It’s not a me problem; it’s a them problem. I don’t hate women; in fact I’m great friends with my ex gf of 8 years who fucked me over worse than any woman could ever have done….so I am not the bitter type at all.

I’m realistic about modern dating. I don’t think you understand modern dating.
 

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OP made a blanket statement right off the bat, he didn’t say he was expressing an opinion.

I am glad that Redrain and others are kindly explaining how and why his world view is off, but I saw an unhealthy statement from a new member that just screamed “troll”.

The “stats” and mental gymnastics used to defend those types of incel statements are bad. A quick flip around and you could easily say “90 % of guys are unbangable” and be correct. Add in the “50% of all men have small peepees” stat and the bangable male population would shrink even lower, using OP’s same logic.
 

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A quick flip around and you could easily say “90 % of guys are unbangable” and be correct. Add in the “50% of all men have small peepees” stat and the bangable male population would shrink even lower, using OP’s same logic.
Only because you are applying post 1960s parameters.
Take away all the government laws & protections that falsely "empowered" females and guys with regular looks and build who is a good provider/protector (as long as he is not a fat slob, stinky, or have a genuinely ugly face) would do just fine.

But I really do not want to get into that conversation. Yeah, I hate what the 60s did to this country, but yeah I also know that it probably won't change, and even if it did, I am too old to reap the benefits.

So all I will say is that I am grateful for all the hot young escorts I was able to bang.
And didn't have pair off with a mediocre millie or worse, have to date middle aged bags.
60 is right around the corner for me now, and I will probably start slowing down with the escorts.
Good. Less aggravation.
Maybe I'll take up some other expensive hobby. Or just move to Florida and splash around in the pool.
 

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OP made a blanket statement right off the bat, he didn’t say he was expressing an opinion.

I am glad that Redrain and others are kindly explaining how and why his world view is off, but I saw an unhealthy statement from a new member that just screamed “troll”.

The “stats” and mental gymnastics used to defend those types of incel statements are bad. A quick flip around and you could easily say “90 % of guys are unbangable” and be correct. Add in the “50% of all men have small peepees” stat and the bangable male population would shrink even lower, using OP’s same logic.
Actually he did say he was expressing his opinion. He said he needed to vent.

Not sure why dudes here are so triggered by his opinion. Not sure why you have to pull out the “incel” card. That’s what triggered feminists do.

Also; it was actually a study.
https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/w...n-unattractive-on-dating-apps-recent-research
 

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Only because you are applying post 1960s parameters.
Take away all the government laws & protections that falsely "empowered" females and guys with regular looks and build who is a good provider/protector (as long as he is not a fat slob, stinky, or have a genuinely ugly face) would do just fine.

But I really do not want to get into that conversation. Yeah, I hate what the 60s did to this country, but yeah I also know that it probably won't change, and even if it did, I am too old to reap the benefits.

So all I will say is that I am grateful for all the hot young escorts I was able to bang.
And didn't have pair off with a mediocre millie or worse, have to date middle aged bags.
60 is right around the corner for me now, and I will probably start slowing down with the escorts.
Good. Less aggravation.
Maybe I'll take up some other expensive hobby. Or just move to Florida and splash around in the pool.
Yeah- plus straight men have no clue how women view us. I think Sean Connery is Ick sexually. Some balding hairy dude. Gross. Yet he made millions of women wet in the gash. Sexiest man alive or whatever. So for a straight man to proclaim most men are gross is kind of funny.
 
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