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Has anyone here ever witness an AMP raid?

Njasnfan

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Whether inside or from the outside? I always wondered if it's like, a knock on the door with a warrant, or a kick down the door guns drawn arrests everywhere type of situation. I usually only see the LE shutdown papers posted on the door during the aftermath. Anyone care to shed some light?
 

calr2112

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someone shared a video with me of an impromptu "health" inspection, women officers did all the searching while the male officers just stood there blocking the exit
 

peterbald224

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and what if you just say you were getting a massage and nothing illegal is going on?
can you still be arrested as a customer?
I am dying to go, but the thought of losing my job and pension is just too risky and ANY type of arrest is actionable.
 

jim_hatez

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and what if you just say you were getting a massage and nothing illegal is going on?
can you still be arrested as a customer?
I am dying to go, but the thought of losing my job and pension is just too risky and ANY type of arrest is actionable.
You've been here since 2019... you've not gone in 4 years? Lol.

Have you ever been stopped by police before? Do you know what to say and not say?

If not, you should google some vids from experts. Essentially, correct, you say nothing, admit to nothing, even if they say "if you admit BLANK we will let you go" or whatever.

Remember this fundamental truth. Police are allowed to lie to extract a confession. That is not illegal.

So essentially they can say, we have video of you doing XYZ and its totally false. "Admit it now, and we will let you go, otherwise it's gonna be 10 years in jail at least!"

Never, I repeat, NEVER EVER fall victim to anything like this.

Best bet... say nothing. Next to best bet. Admit to only legal activities (i.e. massage).

Never admit anything illegal, no matter what, without speaking to counsel first.

I have never been in a raid, but it doesn't scare me, because I have been involved in several police stops/interrogations in my life over various things, and watched many expert videos to understand what you should and should not do.

If you remember this advice, with 99.999% certainty you won't ever have a problem.

First, because raids are very rare. So your odds of being caught up in one is astronomically small. 2nd, because you won't self-incriminate, which means your chance of actually losing anything is slim to none.
 

peterbald224

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You've been here since 2019... you've not gone in 4 years? Lol.

Have you ever been stopped by police before? Do you know what to say and not say?

If not, you should google some vids from experts. Essentially, correct, you say nothing, admit to nothing, even if they say "if you admit BLANK we will let you go" or whatever.

Remember this fundamental truth. Police are allowed to lie to extract a confession. That is not illegal.

So essentially they can say, we have video of you doing XYZ and its totally false. "Admit it now, and we will let you go, otherwise it's gonna be 10 years in jail at least!"

Never, I repeat, NEVER EVER fall victim to anything like this.

Best bet... say nothing. Next to best bet. Admit to only legal activities (i.e. massage).

Never admit anything illegal, no matter what, without speaking to counsel first.

I have never been in a raid, but it doesn't scare me, because I have been involved in several police stops/interrogations in my life over various things, and watched many expert videos to understand what you should and should not do.

If you remember this advice, with 99.999% certainty you won't ever have a problem.

First, because raids are very rare. So your odds of being caught up in one is astronomically small. 2nd, because you won't self-incriminate, which means your chance of actually losing anything is slim to none.
haha, I was not even lurking, i registered 4 years ago when I first became interested, starting lurking again the last few days and I was going to register and google stored my login info!
Anyways, thank you for the great advice, I know it, but it never hurts to hear it all again. What you say makes sense, and I never break the law, ever. "I went for a massage, she liked me and I gave her a tip!" that is not illegal, Officer!
 

peterbald224

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Best bet... say nothing. Next to best bet. Admit to only legal activities (i.e. massage).

Never admit anything illegal, no matter what, without speaking to counsel first.

I have never been in a raid, but it doesn't scare me, because I have been involved in several police stops/interrogations in my life over various things, and watched many expert videos to understand what you should and should not do.

If you remember this advice, with 99.999% certainty you won't ever have a problem.

First, because raids are very rare. So your odds of being caught up in one is astronomically small. 2nd, because you won't self-incriminate, which means your chance of actually losing anything is slim to none.
So quick question:
Say I do everything you say, and admit no guilt and claim it was just a massage. can i still be charged and arrested at the scene?
Are you saying they will let me out with no charges, or I will win in court no problems?
 

Amu504

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So quick question:
Say I do everything you say, and admit no guilt and claim it was just a massage. can i still be charged and arrested at the scene?
Are you saying they will let me out with no charges, or I will win in court no problems?
You can be charged and would have to take it to court. It’s the embarrassment of telling family, friends that you have been charged with soliciting a prostitute. More than likely it won’t hold up in court. I think the police/DA know this so then they blast it in the news with pics of all the men arrested….while months down the road the case is thrown out.
 

peterbald224

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yea, well,
You can be charged and would have to take it to court. It’s the embarrassment of telling family, friends that you have been charged with soliciting a prostitute. More than likely it won’t hold up in court. I think the police/DA know this so then they blast it in the news with pics of all the men arrested….while months down the road the case is thrown out.
yea, and if my job was say a public school teacher right down the street, that may prove problematic.

I still don't understand how i can walk into a business and be arrested? Like what if a bodega is selling drugs and I go in to buy a soda while they get raided? How can they prove i was there for the drugs? How is that not the same thing????

last I checked massages are very legal and so is sex. If the girl happens to like me and becomes attracted to me while giving said massage, how is that a crime? I tip extra to anyone that provides me with a great experience!
 

Amu504

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It’s a fine line we walk….I have been doing this off and on for 15 years and never had a problem. All the cops know what goes on in these establishments….hell they go to them too. It’s when the “Karen” down the street makes the 10th complaint that the DA has to act on it. More times than not, the person getting arrested and convicted is the owner/MMS.
 

peterbald224

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in flushing, ny, its more likely to be a "Kim" than a "Karen" especially since the place I want to go to is directly across from a Korean church lol
thanks for your input, seems like the risk/reward is leaning more and more towards the reward for me.
 

dirkjones

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yea, well,

yea, and if my job was say a public school teacher right down the street, that may prove problematic.

I still don't understand how i can walk into a business and be arrested? Like what if a bodega is selling drugs and I go in to buy a soda while they get raided? How can they prove i was there for the drugs? How is that not the same thing????

last I checked massages are very legal and so is sex. If the girl happens to like me and becomes attracted to me while giving said massage, how is that a crime? I tip extra to anyone that provides me with a great experience!
I'd recommend taking a nice 1-2 hours drive someplace, don't do it near home if you're that worried.
 

peterbald224

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I'd recommend taking a nice 1-2 hours drive someplace, don't do it near home if you're that worried.
well, I have to report any arrest with my job, no matter where it occurs. Whether guilty or not, if I do not report it, I can be fired and lose my pension. So anywhere in the world is the same risk.

I work in flushing and literally walk past over 10 of these places on my way to work, including this one:
https://prettyyukinyc.com/
seems silly to travel when I pass that every day lol
 

dirkjones

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well, I have to report any arrest with my job, no matter where it occurs. Whether guilty or not, if I do not report it, I can be fired and lose my pension. So anywhere in the world is the same risk.

I work in flushing and literally walk past over 10 of these places on my way to work, including this one:
https://prettyyukinyc.com/
seems silly to travel when I pass that every day lol
I get that fact, but just in terms of being spotted in general. I'd find a spot with a discreet back alley style entrance and not near where you work or live.
 

Martyw

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I am dying to go, but the thought of losing my job and pension is just too risky and ANY type of arrest is actionable.
There’s a saying, never gamble more than you can afford to lose.

You should ask yourself why do you want to do this? There are many post on here about the upsides and downsides of engaging in this hobby. A common caution is, it’s much harder to get out of the rabbit hole then it was to get in the rabbit hole.
 

dirkjones

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I've been doing this over 20 years, never spotted by anyone or caught in any raids... but I also didn't have all that much to lose when I was really active in it. If you're that worried and any slip up could really mess things up, maybe don't get started. Look for alternatives, couldn't you just get a room somewhere and book a massage that may offer extras but is also licensed? Would be a bit pricier but the risk would be far less.
 

Abc246825

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well, I have to report any arrest with my job, no matter where it occurs. Whether guilty or not, if I do not report it, I can be fired and lose my pension. So anywhere in the world is the same risk.

I work in flushing and literally walk past over 10 of these places on my way to work, including this one:
https://prettyyukinyc.com/
seems silly to travel when I pass that every day lol
I can understand being fired but how would losing your job cause you to lose your pension?
 

peterbald224

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I can understand being fired but how would losing your job cause you to lose your pension?
yea, I am a tenured high school teacher, and maybe I am exaggerating. I have union protection and would have a hearing before any action was taken. I do not see why my defense cannot be my back was hurting so I went to the local message therapy near work. I am innocent of all charges. But they will know the truth lol

But if i do not report it, I can most certainly lose my job and they could technically go after my pension, but I am not positive, who wants to find out?
 

dirkjones

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I do not see why my defense cannot be my back was hurting so I went to the local message therapy near work. I am innocent of all charges.
Chances are whoever you are saying this to goes there as well and knows these places can make your back worse with the little to no training these providers have, it would always be obvious you're there for the extras.
 
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