Going in BBFS not so fast

[Black_Noir]

No i don't think they avoid catching sti's . I just know they don't all have it the way you are implying. I also know there is a large bbfs community on here and on other forums.

Trust there would be wayyyyy more posts about cases if people were getting burned as often as some people on here think.

You're contradicting your statements badly. To each his own.

I just think its naive to think people are going to run on forums and post their medical charts or anytime they get burned. "Oh I got the clap, let me stand on the sidewalk and let AMP forums know ASAP.". And its naive to think everyone is getting tested and on their on PrEP pills. And it's more naive to think that there isn't people + walking around. If they're on the meds to keep viral load down or not is another topic and something they wont disclose either. Fun Fact: PrEP protect you from HIV1 and not HIV2.

Most reports of infection are usually through the grapevine and you just add 2+2 = 4. Unless they showing you their test just assume they have or had something if they're providing extras. Big tell tell sign is multiple vacations providers usually take.

My last response on this, you're a cool dude and I dont want to drag this thread out. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Ellocohombre]

I am with B N on this one. Guys that are catching something are not going to publicly admit the fact.

 

[Undisputed2001]

I am with B N on this one. Guys that are catching something are not going to publicly admit the fact.

I didn't think people would get this defensive about this subject. Has been an interesting thread.

 

[DeuceJiggalow]

I am with B N on this one. Guys that are catching something are not going to publicly admit the fact.

And also guys that go raw are very aware of the risks and may either have something or understand they may catch something. In the heat of a session it’s also hard to think with your big head.

 

[Retired042224]

Risk Ranking = Probability X Consequence of Failure. Everybody has their own personal limits.

 

[Uniquelyme]

You're contradicting your statements badly. To each his own.

I just think its naive to think people are going to run on forums and post their medical charts or anytime they get burned. "Oh I got the clap, let me stand on the sidewalk and let AMP forums know ASAP.". And its naive to think everyone is getting tested and on their on PrEP pills. And it's more naive to think that there isn't people + walking around. If they're on the meds to keep viral load down or not is another topic and something they wont disclose either. Fun Fact: PrEP protect you from HIV1 and not HIV2.

Most reports of infection are usually through the grapevine and you just add 2+2 = 4. Unless they showing you their test just assume they have or had something if they're providing extras. Big tell tell sign is multiple vacations providers usually take.

My last response on this, you're a cool dude and I dont want to drag this thread out. Just my 2 cents.

You are making a lot of assumptions. That was my first post towards you. You were making it seem like every pro who goes raw has something. That is absurd.

Do some pros have an sti? Yes im sure some do. Do they have it at the rate you think? No clue but you are fear mongering. Not everyone has the same risk tolerance. Everyone here is an adult. Many pros have always offered bbfs. Some of the pros people say she doesnt or she wouldn't, do in fact offer it. Some pros are ymmv pros.

I am in a private group no pros allowed and there are dozens of guys who are anonymous and they are bbfs hobbyists and only 2 have ever said they caught anything. Both were Chlamydia and both were off cheaper backpage indys in the outer boroughs.

Also the higher the rate of the pro, the much more of a chance that the hobbyist gets checked more than once a year due to most likely having medical. If we were talking about rawdogging a junkie or a cheap streetwalker i can see more your logic.

 

[이 회장님]

Absolutely nothing in that guy's entire 10-page-long posting history suggests, even remotely, that his motivation is "looking out" for anybody. My guess is that he works in the medical field but not in any capacity that actually requires an advanced degree in anything, let alone in medicine; and he just likes to pontificate about medical topics here as though he's some kind of authority in the field.

He’s Wackadoo and he loses his temper faster than my 911, Draymond Green and Kim Jong Un combined, I doubt he’s in the medical field. lol

 

[Sidneyfalco]

I say if guys want raw pussy they should find a girlfriend/wife/SO or at the very least a committed fuck buddy. The risk of catching something is pretty damn high if the woman is fucking 10 guys a week sans protection- no matter what price she’s charging
(And since self preservation is one of the highest human goals, I really wonder about the mindset of the WOMEN who are willing to engage in such risky behaviors)

But everyone has to make up their own minds about such things. I would say that even for those who choose to play Russian Roulette with 5 bullets in the chamber

 

[Tarpon]

OP, is BBBJ any safer? How much safer?

 

[yanksaway]

OP, is BBBJ any safer? How much safer?

Check a thread out on the same topic. It's in NNJ category.

 

[Uniquelyme]

I say if guys want raw pussy they should find a girlfriend/wife/SO or at the very least a committed fuck buddy. The risk of catching something is pretty damn high if the woman is fucking 10 guys a week sans protection- no matter what price she’s charging
(And since self preservation is one of the highest human goals, I really wonder about the mindset of the WOMEN who are willing to engage in such risky behaviors)

But everyone has to make up their own minds about such things. I would say that even for those who choose to play Russian Roulette with 5 bullets in the chamber

There are many Women who are willing to engage in that behavior. Maybe it isn't that risky for them. A lot of assumptions go on here about how risky it truly is.

You are mentioning Russian Roulette that seems to be an excessive take.

 

[BIGBOB62]

There are many Women who are willing to engage in that behavior. Maybe it isn't that risky for them. A lot of assumptions go on here about how risky it truly is.

You are mentioning Russian Roulette that seems to be an excessive take.

Agree. I don’t do BBFS as many times as others here but have done many times. I never pass when offered bbbj. If there were 5 bullets in the gun, I would have zero chances of not getting something by now after 15 years of playing hard. But yet I get tested all the time and nothing. Everyone has to figure out what works for them. What’s important is to make an informed decision, not based on emotions in the heat of the moment, or some hysterical online Karen. I will say I’ve had a couple times overseas where it was in one of those sexy Thai girls before I had time to consider. Nothing happened but I did sweat it to the next test.

I certainly would stay covered if I had a wife. Because although as the OP misled everyone gonorrhea is almost never fatal, giving your spouse it probably will be .

 

[itwasntme]

We all take risks, myself included, but there are some things you can do to reduce the risks.

1. DoxyPEP has been shown to reduce the likelihood of catching chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis if taken after having unprotected sex. As of just last year, you can now get prescriptions for shipped to you from telemed online pharmacies. Unfortunately it doesn't work for women, so we have to be the ones to take it.

The study found that taking doxycycline after a sexual encounter reduces the risk of chlamydia, syphilis, and gonorrhea. Doxycycline reduced the risks of chlamydia and syphilis by roughly 75% each. The risk of gonorrhea infection went down by more than 50%.

https://www.goodrx.com/doxycycline-hyclate/doxypep-sti

2. While HIV is significantly rarer, PrEP can reduce your already low likelihood of getting HIV by another 99%. Unlike antibiotics that can upset the stomach, PrEP generally has no side effects for most people. This one does work for women so it's possible some providers may be on it.

Obviously neither of these is anywhere near as good as wrapping it up, which itself is not nearly as good as abstaining entirely. But we wouldn't be here if that were a realistic option . . .

 

[DeuceJiggalow]

I say if guys want raw pussy they should find a girlfriend/wife/SO or at the very least a committed fuck buddy. The risk of catching something is pretty damn high if the woman is fucking 10 guys a week sans protection- no matter what price she’s charging
(And since self preservation is one of the highest human goals, I really wonder about the mindset of the WOMEN who are willing to engage in such risky behaviors)

But everyone has to make up their own minds about such things. I would say that even for those who choose to play Russian Roulette with 5 bullets in the chamber

Providers are broken women and mongers are broken men. It is what it is….

 

[DeuceJiggalow]

We all take risks, myself included, but there are some things you can do to reduce the risks.

1. DoxyPEP has been shown to reduce the likelihood of catching chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis if taken after having unprotected sex. As of just last year, you can now get prescriptions for shipped to you from telemed online pharmacies. Unfortunately it doesn't work for women, so we have to be the ones to take it.

https://www.goodrx.com/doxycycline-hyclate/doxypep-sti

2. While HIV is significantly rarer, PrEP can reduce your already low likelihood of getting HIV by another 99%. Unlike antibiotics that can upset the stomach, PrEP generally has no side effects for most people. This one does work for women so it's possible some providers may be on it.

Obviously neither of these is anywhere near as good as wrapping it up, which itself is not nearly as good as abstaining entirely. But we wouldn't be here if that were a realistic option . . .

Is this basically what Gina Rollins does? If she can’t do option 1, how the heck does she not get infected?

 

[Sidneyfalco]

There are many Women who are willing to engage in that behavior. Maybe it isn't that risky for them. A lot of assumptions go on here about how risky it truly is.

You are mentioning Russian Roulette that seems to be an excessive take.

There are many women in this business who have mental problems and/ or addiction issues. I’ve been in this world since Jimmy Carter was President, and I have come across countless ladies who fall into these categories (and to be fair, I have run across numerous fucked up men as well)

If you don’t think that being fucked bare and often cream pied by numerous men each week- none of who has produced test results like on a porn set- is not risky behavior for the women, then we have different ideas of what risky is….

Don’t get me wrong- I’m not telling anyone NOT to engage in BBFS or any activity. The same way I don’t tell a dope addict not to try fentanyl. Everyone has to take care of themselves…. But there’s nothing wrong with examining the facts or questioning what might lead someone to engage in certain behaviors and activities

 

[Sidneyfalco]

Providers are broken women and mongers are broken men. It is what it is….

Most honest post on this thread!

 

[Kingtut1999]

If you’re married, you should never do BBFS and maybe even BBBJ unless you really hate your wife or want an excuse for a divorce

 

[Uniquelyme]

Providers are broken women and mongers are broken men. It is what it is….

Speak for yourself champ.

There are many women in this business who have mental problems and/ or addiction issues. I’ve been in this world since Jimmy Carter was President, and I have come across countless ladies who fall into these categories (and to be fair, I have run across numerous fucked up men as well)

If you don’t think that being fucked bare and often cream pied by numerous men each week- none of who has produced test results like on a porn set- is not risky behavior for the women, then we have different ideas of what risky is….

Don’t get me wrong- I’m not telling anyone NOT to engage in BBFS or any activity. The same way I don’t tell a dope addict not to try fentanyl. Everyone has to take care of themselves…. But there’s nothing wrong with examining the facts or questioning what might lead someone to engage in certain behaviors and activities

It's risky. Just not Russian Roulette risky which is what you were saying before.

 

[Undisputed2001]

Speak for yourself champ.

It's risky. Just not Russian Roulette risky which is what you were saying before.

You might have expounded on this earlier, so forgive me if that's the case, but how risky do YOU think it is?