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GFE Market Rate Adjustment

darkwingbuck

Call me rocket; truth > lies, bros > pros
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#61
No worries, I do appreciate a civil discussion and I do thank you as well. I think we are well within boundaries here.


What I was trying to articulate with my analogy is that even though the orgs may not be anything more than glorified room&board ops, because we buy through them, they are responsible/culpable for quality and pic truthfulness of pics and so forth. They have the power to accept or reject talent, don't they? They have the power to ask girls to use real body pics. They have the power to not sell cake if cake makers ask to use pics of cake that looks nothing like the cake in the pic. Will they lose some cake suppliers and overall revenue if they do that? I'm sure they will. But what they will gain in return is customer trust and most likely loyalty. There are already some rules imposed by some orgs. Why not some rules concerning pic truthfulness and so forth? Why not some standards?


Note that I haven't really talked about specific orgs yet because my post was aimed at a general sentiment. But I'll say this - because of GFEI stellar rep in the past, their rep and name has carried them recently where many other orgs with worse rep wouldnt get through. Having good rep means customer trust. Orgs like AA, SA, EBK have/had very little customer trust on a whole.


And yes, while I understand that, like you've said, it might not be trivial to judge quality per se. Well, in that case why not delegate to experts-
us! :)

The so-called "die-hard dollar counters, clock watchers, scale-toting, fat caliper wielding, wrinkle watchers". Listen to feedback, and voila. You get a good idea of what's liked and what's not. Expert or not, I think people can distinguish quickly who can give a good DT and who cannot. And so forth. If a girl has mediocre reviews from trusted customers, don't bring her back. Try another girl. Diversify stock. Change inventory. Etc.


Finally - and nothing personal meant here - I find it a bit weird that you first say we (as in, everyone, you included) shouldn't guess but then you say you know more than others and hence can guess better than others. That's a little bit unfair, I feel like. But that's a minor qualm here. Lol.
 

RichieKim

Registered Member
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haha none taken, it's hard to say "my opinions are colored by a bit more experience", without it sounding like "I know better" in general, but not meant that way.

Lastly, while orgs may have the "power" to refuse, they simply won't and maybe even can't. If they want to stay open, they have to accept what is out there. If um cakemakers all go gluten free, or dairy free, or whatever healthy shitty taste alternatives they have our there these days...and all tastes like cardboard, then it's time to close that the cake section of the store all together. Then the real cakes will then charge 400 a cake, for what they used to charge 280. same cake, different circumstances. Especially now you see the "good" ones going indie, cutting out the middle man all together, although it's same price for you and me, it's more take home for them, but maybe they take limited appointment, thereby reducing supply further. it's like the matrix dude, it's maddening, never ending struggle of price vs quality. ups and downs.
 

darkwingbuck

Call me rocket; truth > lies, bros > pros
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Well, if they can't or they won't, why should customers accept it as is then? I don't think customers care as much as to why or who is to blame, but moreso whether the cake is still delicious and reasonably priced. If another shop opens up and their cakes are fresher and better, and look like the ad, it is not unreasonable for customers to put down the "old" store and prop up the "new" store.


I do get the catch 22 for orgs as they may be blamed for something they may not have 100% control of, but at the end of the day, like you've said, if it's the middleman we're paying, then we will blame the middleman for accepting it.


Customers will also readily blame independent, uh, cakemakers too if they charge a G for some 400 dollar cake. So it's not exclusive to orgs.


I do think in the end, all customers want is not someone to blame but rather good, delicious, sweet, fresh amazing cake with excellent catering service. This is why much of org talk goes out the window when a legend who has a huge fan base comes by. And a long line forms outside for cake. Are people OK dealing with soup nazi of cakes for delicious cake? Depends. Personally I'm not, but many are.


But criticizing an org for subpar offerings and higher prices? That's part of being a business and a customer. I think that's natural.


Anyway, thank you for the once again civil discussion.
 

augie.ezel

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The best thing you can do is to not give GFEI any of your business ever. Even if other orgs raise prices to $280 as well, because GFEi has proven that they will strike first and strike hard and have no mercy with price increases.

If you are price sensitive, do not ever go there, ever.
If you do go, then don't ever whine about pricing again, ever.

Thanks.
 
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