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Epstein Dead!!!

Koondog

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I suspect there is no more blatant example of how a rigid political poster thinks than your post above.

Post 117 is the first one that fits your preferred story line, so you pretend the thread started there and ignore that post 114 is where things went into politics. Remedial math review: 114 is prior to 117.

Then when you do join the discussion several posts later you start with some "even though you are correct, you shouldn't bring it up because.... Well, because we only want to slam the liberals". Really? You now want to chastise me for being even handed and critisizing bad apples in both parties? I admit, I don't know what to say about that accusation. Maybe "thank you", but I doubt you intended it as a complement.

As to calling you a RWer, it is merely a descriptive term based upon your posted views. Is that now Fake News to call you what you seem to be? Are you actually a Pinko Commie who has fooled us all? (I doubt it.) If so, please start posting like one.
"Post 117 is the first one that fits your preferred story line, so you pretend the thread started there and ignore that post 114 is where things went into politics. Remedial math review: 114 is prior to 117."

Post #114 was in line with the topic at hand. The poster even mentioned that to you.

Nothing argumentative until you chimed at with #117.

You just don't want to admit it.

So Aslim's biggest sin was not throwing in some GOP member's name that might have wanted Epstein knocked off to satisfy this odd fetish of yours to never criticize one side without finding fault somewhere with the other side?

Right wing? I am hardly a monarch or anarchist. My views properly understood fall right in the center of the political spectrum. A constitutional conservative's views can be no other place. But it's much easier just to thoughtlessly pin a false label on someone so they can be dismissed I guess.
 

TGBeldin

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"Post 117 is the first one that fits your preferred story line, so you pretend the thread started there and ignore that post 114 is where things went into politics. Remedial math review: 114 is prior to 117."

Post #114 was in line with the topic at hand. The poster even mentioned that to you.

Nothing argumentative until you chimed at with #117.

You just don't want to admit it.

So Aslim's biggest sin was not throwing in some GOP member's name that might have wanted Epstein knocked off to satisfy this odd fetish of yours to never criticize one side without finding fault somewhere with the other side?

Right wing? I am hardly a monarch or anarchist. My views properly understood fall right in the center of the political spectrum. A constitutional conservative's views can be no other place. But it's much easier just to thoughtlessly pin a false label on someone so they can be dismissed I guess.
No surprise at all.

You see everything through highly tinted lenses.

You see "right in line with the topic" where you want to see it.

You see argumentative where you want to see it.

You see a centrist position where you stand--as almost everyone does.

Needless to say I disagree with your perspective on all three of those points.
 

Plat122

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No surprise at all.

You see everything through highly tinted lenses.

You see "right in line with the topic" where you want to see it.

You see argumentative where you want to see it.

You see a centrist position where you stand--as almost everyone does.

Needless to say I disagree with your perspective on all three of those points.
I don't understand how the love of Trump or Clinton got into this.

The joke going around about the Clintons killing Epstein to keep him quite is that the "Clinton family don't even have that kind of muscle any more" "They got pushed out of DC buy Trump and the other Families."

The outrage again, is that he got a deal that the average Joe, like me and you would never get. Think about it. You get a speeding ticket, get busy at work or have medical issue or just forget, and miss your court date, they will send you a second notice and up your fine. If you miss that next one, which is easy to do, they will issue an arrest warrant. The average Joe doesn't stand a chance.

Why should the government care what grown people are doing. They guys in Florida didn't deserve this. The guys in Cleveland didn't deserve this. The family values Republican in NJ, my home state, that got popped a few months ago did not deserve it. The average Joe should focus on the real issue and not this fake crap. From what I can see from some of the poster here it is also the average Joe Bob.
 

Gentle Jim

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The FBI supposedly went to Epstein's Love Island looking for evidence....I am sure it was a search and destroy mission. With all Big Shots visiting that place , and Epstein Taping some of the clients in action ......NONE of that information will see the light of day!
 

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Does anyone opine that some underage girls should at least give an account for their actions? I’m not suggesting being charged and prosecuted but Seriously? I realize they aren’t mature enough mentally to make well thought out decisions. But some of the victims after being asked, told or forced to perform more (sexually) continued to return allowing Epstein and his friends to use and abuse them for money and gifts. I don’t or haven’t read where girls were held captive or against their will. Underage is underage, I get that, it’s illegal, what is occurring in an underage girl’s life that attracts her to massage a naked old man, money? What’s the pitch from a recruiter to young girls?
 

TGBeldin

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Does anyone opine that some underage girls should at least give an account for their actions? I’m not suggesting being charged and prosecuted but Seriously? I realize they aren’t mature enough mentally to make well thought out decisions. But some of the victims after being asked, told or forced to perform more (sexually) continued to return allowing Epstein and his friends to use and abuse them for money and gifts. I don’t or haven’t read where girls were held captive or against their will. Underage is underage, I get that, it’s illegal, what is occurring in an underage girl’s life that attracts her to massage a naked old man, money? What’s the pitch from a recruiter to young girls?
Do some looking and reading about abused women, both young and old.

Often emotionally abused from early on. Often only one parent who makes them feel unwanted, unloved, and convinced them they are useless and no one could love them. They are no good and will never amount to anything.

Then someone comes along and pay attention. Tells them they are pretty. Tells them they want them. The guy may be less than perfect. May be abusive 90% of the time. But those few words and actions the 10% of the time, even though lies, are a potent drug.

Wife beaters. Abusers. Cults. Often it's the same playbook.
 

AutomaticSlim

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Does anyone opine that some underage girls should at least give an account for their actions? I’m not suggesting being charged and prosecuted but Seriously? I realize they aren’t mature enough mentally to make well thought out decisions. But some of the victims after being asked, told or forced to perform more (sexually) continued to return allowing Epstein and his friends to use and abuse them for money and gifts. I don’t or haven’t read where girls were held captive or against their will. Underage is underage, I get that, it’s illegal, what is occurring in an underage girl’s life that attracts her to massage a naked old man, money? What’s the pitch from a recruiter to young girls?
Their parents have some splaining to do...
 

VJLUTZ

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Does anyone opine that some underage girls should at least give an account for their actions? I’m not suggesting being charged and prosecuted but Seriously? I realize they aren’t mature enough mentally to make well thought out decisions. But some of the victims after being asked, told or forced to perform more (sexually) continued to return allowing Epstein and his friends to use and abuse them for money and gifts. I don’t or haven’t read where girls were held captive or against their will. Underage is underage, I get that, it’s illegal, what is occurring in an underage girl’s life that attracts her to massage a naked old man, money? What’s the pitch from a recruiter to young girls?
What do almost all women like?
1. Being worshipped for their beauty
2. Expensive gifts
3. Attention, especially from rich & powerful men

This is true for adult women. It is probably also true for girls who are hitting puberty and discovering their own sexuality (and its power over men). You combine these three things, and it is a very powerful manipulation technique. And the younger they are, the more easily manipulated they are. Which is why the age of consent is what it is.

I agree that the girls weren't mentally mature enough to be making these decisions. But I doubt they were fooled about what was going on or what they were being asked to do. Epstein exploited their feminine tendencies and fantasies for his own purposes. The fact that they were young made it all that much easier. I also think that some of the mothers went along with it because they were living vicariously through their daughters. And, of course, the money didn't hurt. I've seen this before, but in different (far less sordid) contexts.

What Epstein and his ilk did was not rocket science; they just exploited basic female nature.
 

AutomaticSlim

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What do almost all women like?
1. Being worshipped for their beauty
2. Expensive gifts
3. Attention, especially from rich & powerful men

This is true for adult women. It is probably also true for girls who are hitting puberty and discovering their own sexuality (and its power over men). You combine these three things, and it is a very powerful manipulation technique. And the younger they are, the more easily manipulated they are. Which is why the age of consent is what it is.

I agree that the girls weren't mentally mature enough to be making these decisions. But I doubt they were fooled about what was going on or what they were being asked to do. Epstein exploited their feminine tendencies and fantasies for his own purposes. The fact that they were young made it all that much easier. I also think that some of the mothers went along with it because they were living vicariously through their daughters. And, of course, the money didn't hurt. I've seen this before, but in different (far less sordid) contexts.

What Epstein and his ilk did was not rocket science; they just exploited basic female nature.
It's the same thing Michael Jackson did, but for some reason that freak got a pass. Maybe Epstein should have learned to sing and do the Moon Walk.
 

Plat122

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Michael Jackson never got a pass. He was prosecuted and he won. Again, money talks and BS walks. Who said the parents have some "splaning to do was spot on. Many of the parents of the boys Micheal Jackson molested benefited financially from the relationship. They were reluctant to help prosecutors. Any parent that would sell his/her child is as big a scum bag and the molester.
 

AutomaticSlim

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Michael Jackson never got a pass. He was prosecuted and he won. Again, money talks and BS walks. Who said the parents have some "splaning to do was spot on. Many of the parents of the boys Micheal Jackson molested benefited financially from the relationship. They were reluctant to help prosecutors. Any parent that would sell his/her child is as big a scum bag and the molester.
He got a pass as many in the media and entertainment business still treated him as royalty. He was never made to be a pariah, as was done to Epstein.
 
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