Married Mongers

This. This all day. My wife KNOWS I've had a thing for Asian girls since childhood, and sometimes I can't help but think if I were married to an Asian gal, would I still want to stray? I suppose OP has semi answered this question.
As for me, I'm still just trying to figure all this shit out. Even with this "hobby", I still consider myself a person of faith. And I am incredibly conflicted. But there are reasons, there's always reasons. I promised myself 2018 would be it, and I managed to make it nearly 3 months before breaking that promise days ago. I want to be done with it. But right now she's out of town helping family out and I'm holding the fort down in the meantime. So the urge seems greater. Aside from the obvious, I want to be done because this shit isn't cheap, and it's a distraction to other shit I should be doing, quite frankly. But, I never had a "young and crazy" phase, didn't have a helluva lot of sexual experiences prior to my wife. So yeah, I'm trying to have my cake and eat it too I suppose. I don't want this to be a regular thing. I was warned just before starting that it will become harder & harder to stop, and I can't say that warning was wrong. It was a 2 year thing that I'm trying to cut before year 3 is counted. But that's just me. I've read some of your stories and honestly I completely get why your mongering. But after those vows man, shit changes. Sex becomes a leprechaun riding a fuckin unicorn over a rainbow. I like my nuts daily at least, and tried to work out a system of at least every other day. But that shit went right out the window. And so I stray. Mostly to porn, but more occasionally, to FS. And what I can honestly say in two years of being a "budget" mongerer, nothing has topped fucking/making love to my wife. And I really feel like there's something to be said there.
Let's face it the shit's like takeout. What we having tonight? Chinese? Mexican? Soul food? Overpriced and ultimately unsatisfying Russian? But my favorite is always a good home cooked meal. Just wish I had more of it. And at the very least, I've never put "them" over her. Never will. That's my run on two cents. Thanks, gents

So she's not even willing to give you a 10 minute HJ every day or every other day? Even if the wife has lost interest in her own pleasure, it would seem to me that if she isn't willing to give 10 minutes a day for her husbands pleasure, she is not fully committed to the marriage. If that's the case, I see nothing wrong with going to amps.

Or what you really need is a ton of money an asian girl friend, and a stiff drink! Problem solved

My attraction is/has been under control for a long time, most of my closest friends are Chinese, and yes I have had & do have a provider who just gives a really good legit massage, no hanky panky. Thanks for your feedback!

Great post. Here is how you combat getting the short end of the stick. Marry a Woman that makes more than you.

I had all of that until 2 years ago when she turned over 45..and then lost interest.I spent 2+miserable years trying to get what I want thru her by succumbing to all the shopping and spending she wants.. however things did not improve.All I heard is how other of her friends are also doing the same to their husbands and somehow men need to understand women.
So in short, I never knew what a massage parlor is until 4 months ago...It doesn't replace what I miss it but helps a lot to cope...

"Men need to understand women". Maybe I'm bitter but what I have come to understand about women is that they want what they want when they want it. Since they hold the power between their legs we try to give it to them. After a while they come to expect it and then demand it. I spent longer than you throwing my time and money at the problem only to watch it get worse. We actually get along better since I started hobbying because I am much more relaxed and more able to deal with things without snapping. Maybe someday I will use the relaxed state of affairs to have the discussions we should have had years ago. Right now I am too busy enjoying the hobby. As I said, maybe I'm bitter. I'm sure it doesn't apply in every case but definitely in too many.

Easier said than done. Back in the day, I briefly dated a physical therapist who made slightly more than I did. Two problems: 1) she wasn't very attractive and 2) was kind of a bitch. I've really met very few women who make more than I do. And the few who do tend to suffer from at least one of those problems. A buddy of mine married a doctor who makes a lot more than he does by about 4:1. And it definitely affects their relationship. She is in the drivers seat in many ways. Plus there's all the "kept man" jokes he has to put up with since he's effectively Mr. Mom.

At the other end of the spectrum, I'll bet some of these AMP girls make more than I do, especially after taxes. But the problem there is she's probably had her fill by the end of the day. If she did you on any given day, you'd probably be getting sloppy 5ths, 6ths, 7ths, or even more. And when you're in the sack with her, you're probably getting compared to who know how many other guys.

"Men need to understand women". Maybe I'm bitter but what I have come to understand about women is that they want what they want when they want it. Since they hold the power between their legs we try to give it to them.

I'm with Uniquelyme. Women don't hold all the power between their legs and it kind of unnerves me that anyone in this Hobby would think that.

All points to consider. Women and men are NOT equal, just different. And though it hasn't yet been said on this discussion, I must add a man who knows how to wield his "power" can do well with any woman. ANY woman. Some of it is skill, a lot more is confidence. Money isn't everything.

No provider is impressed by the money I make or have (or don't), because they don't even know. I do okay financially. Nothing extravagant or even remotely "wealthy". I stopped buying fancy cars and expensive baubles a long time ago. These days I prefer a diversified portfolio, with a mix of global large/med/small cap stock funds, balanced by fixed income securities to mitigate risk and reallocate during poor market conditions. I cannot believe I just said that on an AMP forum! LOL

There is no reason to let providers or women of any kind dictate the terms, whether they earn, fuck, suck or cook better than a man. What is important is that a woman, even a provider, feel comfortable, safe and sexy in your presence. Women love to feel like, well, women. Sometimes they want to feel like a lady, and occasionally like a slut! Knowing WHEN to give them what they need is the challenge.

There are guys on this forum whom I truly admire, based upon their ability to meet Asian women in non-AMP settings and turn them into FS providers in the back of the nail salon! That does not take a lot of money (maybe an extra $20, or so they say). It does take a certain set of skills. And the cojones to execute the plan!

I'm with Uniquelyme. Women don't hold all the power between their legs and it kind of unnerves me that anyone in this Hobby would think that. When I was younger, I bought almost 100% into the Feminist line that men and women are equal. I was young and naïve then. Now I see its all bullshit.

Men and women are evenly matched, but we have very different weapons handed to us by biology (which despite all the lunatic propaganda these days, is impossible to overcome). Women have their looks, pussy, mouth and attitude. The first two of those have limited shelf-life and start fading fast after age 30 (which makes them increasingly rely on the last two as they age). On the other hand, men can look more attractive to women as they age if their wealth and confidence increases. That's why older guys, who keep themselves in half-way decent shape, can often easily snag younger girls. Women also love guys who have a sense of humor and tease them in a fun way. When it comes to women, the combination of wealth/success, confidence and sense of humor unlocks almost all doors, especially with Asian women. Asian woman are fuking programmed to respond to expensive trinkets like a moth to a flame. Flash them a key to a luxury car and see what happens.

Women also have traits that men can use against them. These are their lack of self confidence and vanity. No matter how much they run their mouth or crow about pussy power, women always look around for a man when something needs to be done. They also need men to validate them. Vanity is another big one. Women always want to think of themselves as beautiful; even more so as their beauty is fading. If you play to their vanity you can bend them to your will. When I was younger, I thought it was sexist to tell women how beautiful they were. Now I tell them that all the time because its an effective way to get them in the sack. Or (the ultimate challenge) to get a provider to give you pussy galore outside the spa.

This. This all day. My wife KNOWS I've had a thing for Asian girls since childhood, and sometimes I can't help but think if I were married to an Asian gal, would I still want to stray? I suppose OP has semi answered this question.
As for me, I'm still just trying to figure all this shit out. Even with this "hobby", I still consider myself a person of faith. And I am incredibly conflicted. But there are reasons, there's always reasons. I promised myself 2018 would be it, and I managed to make it nearly 3 months before breaking that promise days ago. I want to be done with it. But right now she's out of town helping family out and I'm holding the fort down in the meantime. So the urge seems greater. Aside from the obvious, I want to be done because this shit isn't cheap, and it's a distraction to other shit I should be doing, quite frankly. But, I never had a "young and crazy" phase, didn't have a helluva lot of sexual experiences prior to my wife. So yeah, I'm trying to have my cake and eat it too I suppose. I don't want this to be a regular thing. I was warned just before starting that it will become harder & harder to stop, and I can't say that warning was wrong. It was a 2 year thing that I'm trying to cut before year 3 is counted. But that's just me. I've read some of your stories and honestly I completely get why your mongering. But after those vows man, shit changes. Sex becomes a leprechaun riding a fuckin unicorn over a rainbow. I like my nuts daily at least, and tried to work out a system of at least every other day. But that shit went right out the window. And so I stray. Mostly to porn, but more occasionally, to FS. And what I can honestly say in two years of being a "budget" mongerer, nothing has topped fucking/making love to my wife. And I really feel like there's something to be said there.
Let's face it the shit's like takeout. What we having tonight? Chinese? Mexican? Soul food? Overpriced and ultimately unsatisfying Russian? But my favorite is always a good home cooked meal. Just wish I had more of it. And at the very least, I've never put "them" over her. Never will. That's my run on two cents. Thanks, gents

So she's not even willing to give you a 10 minute HJ every day or every other day? Even if the wife has lost interest in her own pleasure, it would seem to me that if she isn't willing to give 10 minutes a day for her husbands pleasure, she is not fully committed to the marriage. If that's the case, I see nothing wrong with going to amps.

There are guys on this forum whom I truly admire, based upon their ability to meet Asian women in non-AMP settings and turn them into FS providers in the back of the nail salon! That does not take a lot of money (maybe an extra $20, or so they say). It does take a certain set of skills. And the cojones to execute the plan!

Yes I know, I just posted a follow up.

Well I do get a quick "squeezee", a very mechanical job and that too maybe once a week and after she is fully drunk.And no I dont see any 3rd person involved from either side..so cant even fight or accuse about it.