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Do any of you make love to these pros?? :-P

KittyHawk

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. That is, as long as you show them "respect" by not rubbing it in their face, they will look the other way. Its plausible deniability. And unless they catch you in the act, you always have that. Like I said, in my case I am really careful about masking (not making) my activities from her
I made a stupid mistake a while ago. Earlier this year I bought a small bouquet of flowers for my atf. I recieved a postcard in the mail thanking me for the purchase, with the date of purchase. Instead of destroying it immediately I put it in my pocket. It fell out, my wife found it and asked me who I bought flowers for. Of course I told her that I didn't buy any flowers. She has not shown any change in behavior that would indicate suspicion and hasn't brought up the subject again. Maybe it's plausible deniability or maybe she, like me, is just relieved that things have gotten better between us (ty hobby) and doesn't want to stir the waters. That would be plausible deniability, wouldn't it? As for me, I put myself through so much pre hobby, that I think I might be beyond caring.
 

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What I do not understand is how a female, regardless of her age or upbringing, will think that a male will willingly abide by her wishes for no sex.
Is it just a case of her being naive?
Or is she, like Carmela Soprano, just basically saying "Yeah, go ahead. I won't mind as long as you don't rub it in my face"?
AutomaticSlim, As much as we would like to think we are supermen, we are not. Age does not work well for men and women. We laugh at the average american woman in this country, but really guys, the average american guy is not a picture of health either. Do I have a sex drive high than my wife, yes I do. Do I tell my wife about my active sex life? Absolutely not. I constantly describe to her my lack of energy and lack of sex drive. I constantly tell her I wish I had more energy and drive so I could seduce her on a weekly basis. She thinks I am a typical old man with no sex drive and I am perfectly fine letting her think that.
You remember me saying I offer my wife money for sex, well, if she ever said yes, I would give her the money and tell her I couldn't do it even if I tried just to re enforce the notion that I am an impudent old man.
 

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AutomaticSlim, As much as we would like to think we are supermen, we are not. Age does not work well for men and women. We laugh at the average american woman in this country, but really guys, the average american guy is not a picture of health either. Do I have a sex drive high than my wife, yes I do. Do I tell my wife about my active sex life? Absolutely not. I constantly describe to her my lack of energy and lack of sex drive. I constantly tell her I wish I had more energy and drive so I could seduce her on a weekly basis. She thinks I am a typical old man with no sex drive and I am perfectly fine letting her think that.
You remember me saying I offer my wife money for sex, well, if she ever said yes, I would give her the money and tell her I couldn't do it even if I tried just to re enforce the notion that I am an impudent old man.
Damn you can't break your wife off with any? I'm assuming she isn't interested either like you pretend to not be?
 

AutomaticSlim

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@charliebrown
So you are saying that by the time these women decide to cut of sex, they think the husband is too old to be interested as well?
I'm almost 54 and my interest has not waned yet.
And I have a good friend who is 77 -- and he is still wants to get laid as well.
I guess it is a YMMV type of thing.
BTW, I think you married guys are doing the right thing by hiding it from the wives.
It's always better to stay married for familial reasons.
 

KittyHawk

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AutomaticSlim, As much as we would like to think we are supermen, we are not. Age does not work well for men and women. We laugh at the average american woman in this country, but really guys, the average american guy is not a picture of health either. Do I have a sex drive high than my wife, yes I do. Do I tell my wife about my active sex life? Absolutely not. I constantly describe to her my lack of energy and lack of sex drive. I constantly tell her I wish I had more energy and drive so I could seduce her on a weekly basis. She thinks I am a typical old man with no sex drive and I am perfectly fine letting her think that.
You remember me saying I offer my wife money for sex, well, if she ever said yes, I would give her the money and tell her I couldn't do it even if I tried just to re enforce the notion that I am an impudent old man.
Congratulations!!
You have attained the level of stealth and treachery that can only come with age.
 

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Late last year I confided in my best friend about this thing of ours, after keeping it a secret from everyone I know for 25 years. I had no idea about her menopause and him getting cut off from sex. Just wanted to see what his reaction was.

I told him about the 3 types of amps---legit, HJ, and FS---to my surprise he said "Really??? I would be VERY interested in the last option!!!" Shocking to me, lol

I figured no way in hell would he ever stray from the wife to get laid but maybe he would get his feet wet by going to a handie place now and then. Nope, he wanted to jump in to FS places feet first. It was then he told me how rough the past few years without sex in the marriage. I was floored.

He was like...why didn't you tell me about these places years ago? I said cause knowing the straight loyal arrow you are I thought there wasn't a chance in hell you would be interested, lol.

Ya think you know somebody...haha.
 

AutomaticSlim

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@Koondog

Have you ever gone to a "legit" MP?
I haven't.
Wouldn't even know how to find one.
I have only ever done R&T in my local area, but I do know many of them offer FS as well. They're just too old for me, so I stick with R&T when I go to them.

BTW, you should let your buddy know about some of the great NNJ agencies too!
A few years ago, I NEVER would have believed NNJ would be >>> Manhattan for FS, but right now, it really is. Bonkers!
 

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I actually have many times in the past, Slim. I saw a girl in a Flushing legit amp for a year before I finally got her to go to a hotel with me. After 2 hotel visits it ended when she said "you are my BF now, I don't expect money from you but I want you to buy me these cosmetics that cost $700."

Oh is that all? Sure, I always have $700 to piss away for the fuck of it. Told her to go jump in a lake.

There was another girl in a legit Flushing spa around 2010 and 2011 on 40th Rd upstairs named Yi-Ping (forget her work name) that I chased for a couple years but couldn't get a sniff of anything. She was uncommonly beautiful. Still kicking myself that I couldn't crack her even with every trick I had in my arsenal. Never saw a girl so uninterested in men. Obviously something was going on with her that I was unaware of..back then it was pretty rare for a girl not to give in to me eventually.

2 years ago I tried in vain for the longest time with a Chinese/Japanese girl on Route 206 near Princeton with an insanely tight body. All kind of promises to see me on the outside never materialized. Another fucking hopeless liar.

So yeah, I must admit I wasted a lot of money in legit places back in the day trying to get girls that I thought were a bit better looking than the amp girls I had seen.
 

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Now that I think about it both that girl who wanted the cosmetics and the gorgeous one I chased afterwards both worked at the same spa. Yi-Ping probably knew all about what happened with the first girl and just thought I was some playboy or something so never took me seriously. I was probably verbally pummeled relentlessly day after day in the shop when they had down time and I stood no chance. Fucking wenches.
 

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@charliebrown
So you are saying that by the time these women decide to cut of sex, they think the husband is too old to be interested as well?
I'm almost 54 and my interest has not waned yet.
And I have a good friend who is 77 -- and he is still wants to get laid as well.
I guess it is a YMMV type of thing.
BTW, I think you married guys are doing the right thing by hiding it from the wives.
It's always better to stay married for familial reasons.
Very true ! Better of hiding it because most would leave and take everything kids too
 

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@charliebrown
So you are saying that by the time these women decide to cut of sex, they think the husband is too old to be interested as well?
I'm almost 54 and my interest has not waned yet.
And I have a good friend who is 77 -- and he is still wants to get laid as well.
I guess it is a YMMV type of thing.
BTW, I think you married guys are doing the right thing by hiding it from the wives.
It's always better to stay married for familial reasons.
I'm 62, and I pretty much do 2-3 spa trips every week these days. Definitely slower, but I'd never tolerate a wife who only said yes twice a year.
 

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Now that I think about it both that girl who wanted the cosmetics and the gorgeous one I chased afterwards both worked at the same spa. Yi-Ping probably knew all about what happened with the first girl and just thought I was some playboy or something so never took me seriously. I was probably verbally pummeled relentlessly day after day in the shop when they had down time and I stood no chance. Fucking wenches.
They get weird when they become "spa sisters"

I used to hang out with 4 spa girls from an HE place in and out of the spa. I even went to events with their BF's and husbands. Once I started pursuing one of them, the other three labeled me her BF. I could still get HE if I wanted from the other 3, but that was the new boundary with the three.

After it ended with semi-GF at the spa, one of the other girls moved away with her family. She is willing to see me as long as the other three never know. She's at a legit spot now, but allowed me to push past that boundary with some quiet HE and christen her new location

If Yi-Ping moved on, she's probably yours for the taking.
 

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I think you can make love to someone you have a connection with.

I visited this UTR Latin spot some time ago and I was the first customer for a new woman that just flew in for the week. She reminded me of a person in my distant past. I reminded her of her husband.

We knew we weren't the other person from our memory but we connected with each other at a deeper level. Yes we made love, repeatedly, with reckless abandon throwing every caution to the wind.

It actually scared us both a bit because we were truly caught up in what we felt beyond multiple simultaneous climaxes that shook us both to exhaustion. The connection feltauthentic as fine tapped into each other's inner being.

We knew it was best not to exchange numbers because that explosiveness would ultimately lead to disruption of our real personal lives.

Best session ever.

To the OP, "yes" is the short answer.
I had a similar experience recently with a provider. We actually did exchange numbers but we didn't follow through for the exact reason you stated. Did you ever see her again?
 

Bit

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I had a similar experience recently with a provider. We actually did exchange numbers but we didn't follow through for the exact reason you stated. Did you ever see her again?
I did not. I also told the LMP owner the story and she asked if I wanted to contact her, but I declined.

The only benefit was the LMP owner was a bit jealous. She's focusing on providing girls, not providing herself, but it.was nice.ro know I hit a nerve with her.
 
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