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For older guys..

Schecter42

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#81
Even though my wife stopped fucking me a decade ago (menopause), she taught me well. You can do other things to keep your partner wet and wild until it's time to pop, then keep her going until you can go again. A good marathon session starts with the hands and fingers, moves to the mouth and tongue, and after delivering several healthy orgasms without penetration, she's more than willing to let you savor the VJJ as long as possible. Sometimes, when I am especially randy, I'll repeat the cycle, switching techniques to keep her guessing. By the time I get back to my own climax, hours have passed. Even the young ones are impressed.
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Agree with you. I always do this with civie women I am with. I thought all guys did this, but I guess not. I mean, if you just bang them, where is the pleasure for them?
That said, I usually don't do this with AMP girls because many of them seem too sensitive down there, and they don't want manual stimulation.
 

Baiter

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This question is for those of us here over 50 who are still mongering actively and enjoying FS activity. Let’s assume you’re a one pop guy like I am and you just finished a FS session. How long before you’re ready for another one? Where you really feel the urge and have no problems staying hard. I’ve been finding that if I try to have more than one session a couple of days apart, then it might take more than a week to get fully recharged for a satisfying repeat visit. Much easier to visit earlier than that if it’s just HJ, but for full penetration, I need that at least a week or more to really get into it. The urge is there, but the performance often isn’t. Blue pill helps sometimes but doesn’t seem to shorten the “recovery period”
That's a good question. After I pop I'm satisfied so there's no reason (for me)to make a second run. I usually monger 2x a week and I'm at full potency but I've never tried in between that. If you have problems getting up or staying hard you may want to try iron supplements to help boost your blood oxygen, Omega 3 which is a vasodilator and cayanne pepper or ginger to help unclog the cholesterol that's restricting the blood flow. As well ......diet and exercise. Exercise boosts testosterone levels ( walk alitte faster and farther than usual) A cleaner diet with more veggies and less meat can do wonders. Sorry for sounding like your doctor. Hopefully it decreases your recovery time.
 

BillaBong

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That's a good question. After I pop I'm satisfied so there's no reason (for me)to make a second run. I usually monger 2x a week and I'm at full potency but I've never tried in between that. If you have problems getting up or staying hard you may want to try iron supplements to help boost your blood oxygen, Omega 3 which is a vasodilator and cayanne pepper or ginger to help unclog the cholesterol that's restricting the blood flow. As well ......diet and exercise. Exercise boosts testosterone levels ( walk alitte faster and farther than usual) A cleaner diet with more veggies and less meat can do wonders. Sorry for sounding like your doctor. Hopefully it decreases your recovery time.
All well said!
 

BillaBong

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Normally, I start getting excited at the TS, then the teasing and once the cover comes on and in CW, I quickly pop. Then game is over as I will have to wait few hrs to get it up.
Few weeks ago, I consciously decided to control the pop as much as I could and was lasted sufficiently long, seemed working .. however I was unable to pop in the bag;
The provider than gave me a HJ as I was almost exhausted and enjoyed every bit of HJ... not sure if this has happened to anyone.
 

TGBeldin

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You’re referring to unicorns who don’t care about cash
Not at all, and again I think you are not reading what many are saying here.

Of course essentially all the women care about the money, but many of the care about more than only the money.

Massage women, escorts, SBs (a SB is just an escort who doesn't want to be called an escort) all do this as a job. Anyone doing a job cares about the paycheck or it would be volunteer work.

But for many (most?) of them, they also care about being respected, smiled at, made to feel appriciated, thanked, treated as a person. Just like a cashier, bus driver, mechanic, etc. And sex workers. Treat them nicely, become a semi-regular, and they usually respond accordingly. Do (not just pay) a few little extras, and they typically reciprocate in some way.

It is often those who treat them ONLY as a sex provider of one type or another who get treated ONLY as an ATM machine.

Either that or this old, average looking guy just keeps running into one unicorn after another. And it isn't because I tip huge amounts over the norm, either.
 

didi88

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Not at all, and again I think you are not reading what many are saying here.

Of course essentially all the women care about the money, but many of the care about more than only the money.

Massage women, escorts, SBs (a SB is just an escort who doesn't want to be called an escort) all do this as a job. Anyone doing a job cares about the paycheck or it would be volunteer work.

But for many (most?) of them, they also care about being respected, smiled at, made to feel appriciated, thanked, treated as a person. Just like a cashier, bus driver, mechanic, etc. And sex workers. Treat them nicely, become a semi-regular, and they usually respond accordingly. Do (not just pay) a few little extras, and they typically reciprocate in some way.

It is often those who treat them ONLY as a sex provider of one type or another who get treated ONLY as an ATM machine.

Either that or this old, average looking guy just keeps running into one unicorn after another. And it isn't because I tip huge amounts over the norm, either.
No one is saying you should treat them like dirt. Of course some basic civility and respect is indicated. But this is a way to make money for them, and that fact should not cloud one’s judgement, regardless of how much you spend on them. Sometimes the connection may become deeper, but take away the financial incentive and things change pretty quickly. In the end, that’s what’s driving this train
 

didi88

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I think we are talking past each other.
Not sure what your point is then. This is a whore board, not the Harvard debate team

My original response was to a post saying that SBs will think you’re a god because you can last a long time. And my response was that once the financial incentives are gone, most SBs and providers will not care as much about your sexual prowess. In fact, they can find that with plenty of guys. They may care about you to some extent in these kinds of relationships, but with few exceptions, that will depend on some type of cash flow coming in. Not that complex, really
 

VJLUTZ

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Not sure what your point is then. This is a whore board, not the Harvard debate team

My original response was to a post saying that SBs will think you’re a god because you can last a long time. And my response was that once the financial incentives are gone, most SBs and providers will not care as much about your sexual prowess. In fact, they can find that with plenty of guys. They may care about you to some extent in these kinds of relationships, but with few exceptions, that will depend on some type of cash flow coming in. Not that complex, really
Yes, you are absolutley correct. Nearly all SBs and AMP girls are in it for the $$. The great challenge is to turn them so that they are in it for you, not just the $$. Or they like you enough to give you BF like perks. Money will always be part of the equation, but the idea is to maximize your Return on Investment. If you communicate with them and establish a rapport, you can break through their shell. And, as ChunFun points out, giving them pleasure is important too. It can happen, but it requires time and effort.

Many guys just want to keep it transactional though. Nothing wrong with that. For a long time, that was all I wanted too. But one day, I thought "What if?" and then started acting on it.
 

TGBeldin

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Yes, you are absolutley correct. Nearly all SBs and AMP girls are in it for the $$. The great challenge is to turn them so that they are in it for you, not just the $$. Or they like you enough to give you BF like perks. Money will always be part of the equation, but the idea is to maximize your Return on Investment. If you communicate with them and establish a rapport, you can break through their shell. And, as ChunFun points out, giving them pleasure is important too. It can happen, but it requires time and effort.

Many guys just want to keep it transactional though. Nothing wrong with that. For a long time, that was all I wanted too. But one day, I thought "What if?" and then started acting on it.
Spot on, sir.
 

TGBeldin

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Not sure what your point is then. This is a whore board, not the Harvard debate team

My original response was to a post saying that SBs will think you’re a god because you can last a long time. And my response was that once the financial incentives are gone, most SBs and providers will not care as much about your sexual prowess. In fact, they can find that with plenty of guys. They may care about you to some extent in these kinds of relationships, but with few exceptions, that will depend on some type of cash flow coming in. Not that complex, really
Yes, you are correct, this is not an extension of the Harvard debate team. That should not mean we can't discuss different opinions, express our opinions calmly and logically, and point out when others fall short on those things. Hugh Hefner with a silk robe and a brandy sniffer--those who prefer Larry Flint, there is some beer in the game room downstairs.

But before you go, since you are nor sure what my point is I will say it simply:
--You started out with it's all about the money.
--Several of us said our experience says if you play your cards right, it is often about more than just the money
--You go a few rounds not seeming to understand such a concept, tossing in the unicorn impossibility
--I say we are talking past each other
--You say you don't understand my point, but then modify your stance to say essentially what I was saying all along

So now that we are in violent agreement, can we move on?
 

didi88

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Yes, you are correct, this is not an extension of the Harvard debate team. That should not mean we can't discuss different opinions, express our opinions calmly and logically, and point out when others fall short on those things. Hugh Hefner with a silk robe and a brandy sniffer--those who prefer Larry Flint, there is some beer in the game room downstairs.

But before you go, since you are nor sure what my point is I will say it simply:
--You started out with it's all about the money.
--Several of us said our experience says if you play your cards right, it is often about more than just the money
--You go a few rounds not seeming to understand such a concept, tossing in the unicorn impossibility
--I say we are talking past each other
--You say you don't understand my point, but then modify your stance to say essentially what I was saying all along
I did? Please tell me where I said that.. I basically just referred to my response to the original post about SBs thinking you’re a god if you can last longer in bed. And I stand by my original assertion.

Nothing to debate here. Let’s move on to more practical discussions
 

didi88

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At your leisure read #83 through #86.

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Just did. Doesn’t change my original premise

Yeah, you make an extra effort and once in a while, you can actually get a provider to “care about you” and enjoy being with you. I’ve had that experience with a couple of SBs before. But when I ended the arrangements for whatever reason, and the cash flow ceased, all that “good will” seemed to dissipate. Wonder why that happened?
 

TGBeldin

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It depends a lot, I think, on the circumstances of it ending.

I have several friends--some with benefits--among women no longer in the business. We will get together irregularly, and sometimes there is sex, sometimes there is not. Their choice each time. I don't pay. I often cook for them, they typically reciprocate or they pick up the tab at a restaurant. Quite a few who will call or write occasionally, invite me to stay with them if they know I am going to be in their town, and again, no $$ (but if I stay with them I bring a gift, as I would with anyone who puts me up for a couple nights).

If it ends and they are still working, I can certainly see where it goes bad all around. "You say you care about me, but you spend your money on someone else?" kind of thing. In those situations I certainly see things getting strained and good will stopping. If I stopped using my mechanic and went to his competitor, he would probably be less friendly too. Unless he retired.
 
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