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Why do orgs link to TER?

Susanlixxx

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A lot of orgs link reviews from TER. Arguably, this site is better is many respects and I wonder why they don't ?

If there was a good search/filtration mechanism , it would be great.
 

scubaguy950

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A lot of orgs link reviews from TER. Arguably, this site is better is many respects and I wonder why they don't ?

If there was a good search/filtration mechanism , it would be great.
80% of this forum = is folks asking for link to website when the phone number is clearly on the review, and others asking for damage when the info can often be determined by looking at the org listed in post title.

/Old man rant
 

AutomaticSlim

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A lot of orgs link reviews from TER. Arguably, this site is better is many respects and I wonder why they don't ?

If there was a good search/filtration mechanism , it would be great.
One reason is that on TER the orgs can link to one URL and see all the reviews for a single provider.
Here you can only see one review per URL.
I agree this is a much better forum for sharing info and discussion between mongers. It's not even close.
But TER is simply a technically superior site as far as organizing data and allowing for extremely detailed filtering.
 

Pay4

Bonerhope, pecker_wood, Pete2, thomasbird, Ppipe,
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Shorter answer: TER has a lot more overly positive reviews and rating system than ampreviews which has real time comments that are more objectively accurate. The comments are often more useful and quicker than the diatorted reviews. Both provide useful info, but he informal and short form of real time comments engages a larger knowlegable audience that won't bother with bigger effort reviews.

Longer answer:
Reviews are ads in a common media that most mongers read. Reviews make good ads because they are highly distorted positive testimonials. They are so postively distorted that they look like purposeful shilling.

TER typically has like 5x more reviews than ampreviews and has been around over 20 years while ampreviews is 4 years old. However, TER is moderated before publishing up to 3 days after submission while ampreviews reviews are published immediately and moderated afterwords meaning review will get yanked or modified if objectionable. So, you can get a review or info about a new provider faster.

Ampreviews has real time comments both after reviews and in discussion section, no delay. The real time comments are more objective than the reviews. Mongers will say something negative in a comment that they won't say in a review or won't review.

A monger is way more likely to write a review if they have a positive experience since they relive the great experience writing the review. Similarly, if they have a bad experience they want to forget it, so don't want to relive it by writing the review. They also are afraid of hurting the providers feeling or pissing off the org for writing a negative review. The safe thing is not to write the review.

The evidence for this is that great providers will have largest number of reviews on TER or ampreviews in first month after getting known on scene. In fact, this is more reliable indicator of quality than TER's rating system. However, some mongers are conscientious about reviewing like I review every new provider I see.

Mongers who feel warm and fuzzy about a provider can't recall details about her because sex is an automatic reaction, so will look at her pics for reference especially if they recognize her face despite 10 years difference. I have seen reviews that say she looks just like pics despite being 10 years older and 15-20 lbs overweight. To be fair I have a hard time remembering what a provider's face looks like if I feel good about her. We remember distinctions for negative experiences better to avoid them.

Comments are best:
Real time comments are more objective because they are reactions quick to write and are rewarding alerts to other mongers, like "don't get burned like I did, she doesn't even look close to her pics".

The main problem is it's discouraged to criticize an overly optimistic review description (to prevent flaming). Rather you are supposed to write your own review to criticise. But in discussion section about a provider it's ok to say "when I saw her she could lose 20lbs and still float."

However. after a review you can ask like what's her stomach like, how thick fat, etc. The great thing is you will get answers from other mongers who haven't written a review who didn't have good experience or feel conflicted.
 

Pay4

Bonerhope, pecker_wood, Pete2, thomasbird, Ppipe,
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One reason is that on TER the orgs can link to one URL and see all the reviews for a single provider.
Here you can only see one review per URL.
I agree this is a much better forum for sharing info and discussion between mongers. It's not even close.
But TER is simply a technically superior site as far as organizing data and allowing for extremely detailed filtering.
Yes, ampreviews search function is broken on 3 or 2 letter composite names. Lots of luck searching reviews Mia, Ah lin, Seo ah, Ha Yun. It hasn't been fixed in 4 years, and probably never will. It's the real time comments as mentioned previously is the value.
 

ProneBoned

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80% of this forum = is folks asking for link to website when the phone number is clearly on the review, and others asking for damage when the info can often be determined by looking at the org listed in post title.

/Old man rant
Agreed.

Unfortunately, this forum is mostly populated by newbies and org handles, one of which asks silly questions, and the other spreads misinformation.

I wouldn't say TER is a whole lot better, but at least they have mods keeping things *somewhat* honest.
 

Pay4

Bonerhope, pecker_wood, Pete2, thomasbird, Ppipe,
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Agreed.

Unfortunately, this forum is mostly populated by newbies and org handles, one of which asks silly questions, and the other spreads misinformation.

I wouldn't say TER is a whole lot better, but at least they have mods keeping things *somewhat* honest.
So, the first part of this seems unwarranted criticism of most ampreviews members in this forum, in violation of it's anti-trolling rules.

I also disagree that TER mods keep things *somewhat* honest. The TER mods have no idea what's true. It's the ampreviews comments are more honest and objective, and provide info not in reviews on either site, but TER doesn't have them.
 

Pay4

Bonerhope, pecker_wood, Pete2, thomasbird, Ppipe,
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80% of this forum = is folks asking for link to website when the phone number is clearly on the review, and others asking for damage when the info can often be determined by looking at the org listed in post title.

/Old man rant
Yes, googling the phone number will usually give the link. But it's not 80% of the forum asking for the link. And most of the major orgs don't show the damages. Specifically LSC, BGC, LKS, SKS, CA, and VF don't mentioning pricing.
 

KingMessi

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TER looks more organized and professional with tons of escorts listed as well. They do have a dedicated staff as they run with a revenue model also.

TER has no restrictions on what you put in a review.

It’s a lot easier to get the salient points and not have to comb thru comments or read between the lines.

It’s also easier to see if a specific person has been reviewed to check if it is a possible sting or well known provider.
 

Pay4

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TER looks more organized and professional with tons of escorts listed as well. They do have a dedicated staff as they run with a revenue model also.

TER has no restrictions on what you put in a review.

It’s a lot easier to get the salient points and not have to comb thru comments or read between the lines.

It’s also easier to see if a specific person has been reviewed to check if it is a possible sting or well known provider.
Well yes I agree TER looks better but doesn't replace ampreviews and had no way to screen fake review data.
I've been burned because 1/2 dozen TER reviews from real mongers didn't identify a provider as not looking like her pics, but was 15-20lbs overweight and 10 years older than pics implied.

Because TER doesn't have real time comments, Ampreviews has made inroads maybe 20% of reviews (determined by review ratio between two sites) despite only being around 4 years vs TER for 20+ years. Typically one review site dominates in an area, and it's impossible for an upstart to get traction without offering something not available from primary site.

So, TER only became a dominant player in bay area when Erotic Monkey owned by Rubmaps (which also has comments) started trashing reviews and not trashing Mrs. Alpaca ,(Peach Cafe NG#) org written reviews, I think because this was after Sesta Fosta (passed 2018), and they were afraid of the Feds after CityVibe got shutdown, they were trying to push that the reviews are mostly fantasy. They didn't want to jeopardize Rubmaps which I think has been big earner.

But Erotic Monkey had discussion section, comments. Erotic Monkey got going when Amp Maps shutdown also with comments which got going when another review site shutdown, etc. going back to SF Redbook.

So, the reality is that TER doesn't have reviewers in SF Bay area because it's well run and good organization, but because it was only thing available at the time when Erotic Monkey trashed reviews, but before ampreviews had any presence. I had signed up on TER years ago but never used it till 2 years ago.

I've tried to get obvious org shill reviews pulled from TER by writing support, but they don't do it despite acknowledging the the issues. The reality is that positive fake reviews draw members, most are just wannabe mongers. Even ampreviews won't pull an apparent fake review unless it violates terms of use.

But comments after I think without criticizing reviewer can say things like when I saw the provider she was pretty fat, 20lbs overweight, or seemed to be 40+.

There are a number of non VIP monger members I've interacted with who are on the site only for comments which you can read and write without VIP. They don't read ampreviews reviews, but di read the more numerous TER reviews.

I also think comments after the reviewer keep the reviewer more objective more imo.
 

gg1234

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I agree with all of KingMessi's points. I want to add that you can also get more information about a specific girl faster, because you can go to a TER page for a girl and find a list of all of her reviews. Here, each review stands on its own and is disconnected from other reviews for the same girl. You could do a search, but that's at least one extra step here, and you may get suboptimal search results. That alone makes TER a superior platform for reviews. It's just structured better.

Imagine

Imagine you're a booker for GFEI, and you want to provide a link to Gia's reviews.
If you're using TER, it's one link.
https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/gia-358955

If you're using this site, how many links would you have to provide?
https://ampreviews.net/index.php?threads/review-gia-gfei.132252/
https://ampreviews.net/index.php?threads/review-gfei-gia.127796/
https://ampreviews.net/index.php?threads/review-gia-gfei.127730/
https://ampreviews.net/index.php?threads/review-gia-from-gfei.120376/
and there are probably a ton more.
It's impractical.
@AutomaticSlim said the same thing, but I wanted to spell it out.
 

gg1234

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I also think comments after the reviewer keep the reviewer more objective more imo.
You brought up a lot of good points, and what you said about comments resonates with me. The whole point of a review site is to provide a counterbalance against the advertisers to keep things honest. Comments on reviews do seem to help keep things more honest here in case a fake review is encountered.
 

foolio

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Agreed.

Unfortunately, this forum is mostly populated by newbies and org handles, one of which asks silly questions, and the other spreads misinformation.

I wouldn't say TER is a whole lot better, but at least they have mods keeping things *somewhat* honest.
Where have all the refugees gone from MyRedBook? Bay area had one of the best monger communities based around MyRedbook, and its been sliding downhill ever since that bust. There was another site about 5 years back that had discussions and ads, and it jettisoned the discussions/reviews, as that is what LE seems to have been targeting... Boards with both ads, and reviews/discussion. Its been dandelion seeds in the wind since then.
:(

The vast majority of traffic on this board seems to be east coast based... and that is absolutely fine. TER might be seen as a better resource as it has a more widely distributed reviewer base and is good for providers who move around the country...
 

gg1234

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Boards with both ads, and reviews/discussion.
I feel that mixing advertising with reviews creates a conflict of interest, and I think the advertising side ends up winning, because they're the ones who pay usually. I think that advertising and reviewing should be handled by separate sites to avoid conflicts of interest.
 
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