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What happens if you're caught in a raid
- Thread starter JohnWick1
- Start date
Kind of happened to me at NYCSE. Some guy followed me in, asked papasan to use the bathroom. Another guy showed up and they pulled out badges. They were looking at a license and for someone who had that license. I didn't say anything and just left. Got the all clear after about 15 minutes. Came and had my session. IANAL, but the best advice is probably to keep your mouth shut.
BTW, the DoB is still very active. I was a regular at an AMP in midtown that was hit earlier this month with multiple fire and safety violations after plain clothes investigators entered posing as customers. The most serious violations were that the business was not in compliance with the permitted use set forth in the certificate of occupancy and that multiple renovations were done without a work permit. They are trying to come into compliance now but that requires time, money and more renovations that are done up to code, as well as an application to the city to change the CO, which may or may not be granted. Meanwhile they are having issues with their landlord and the city has cited them for operating an "adult establishment" and referred the matter to Office of Special Enforcement. Based on the complaints filed against them (all a matter of public record on the DOB website), I think someone has it in for them. It would probably be easier for them to just close up shop and relocate but they have a lot of money tied up in their lease and the improvements. I'm guessing they keep getting investigated until they have to close or move. The fines alone may shut them down.
About two or three years ago, the NYPR conducted a raid of a Chinatown AMP (not really a raid, more like a sting, cop comes in asks for something illegal, and when she says yes, pretends to go to he bathroom and calls for backup.
One of the providers panics, and climbed to the roof to escape. She tried to jump from roof to roof, and fell to her death in broad daylight on a busy NYC street.
Since then the NYPD does do amp raids anymore, at least not in Queens and Manhattan. Instead, they use the department of building to shut down amps for not being licensed.
Basically if neighbors complain to the cops, they forward the complaint to the DoB, who send someone over there to ask questions about licenses (AND NOTHING ELSE). They don't go beyond the front desk.
If the place isn't licensed then they are told the place will be getting shut down and unless they want the cops to show up and start asking different questions l, they should consider leaving on their own.
Pretty much every amp that gets one of these visits voluntarily moves on, so the neighbors are happy, no arrests, no drama.
So the days of Amp raids in Manhattan and Queens are pretty much over. Can't say the same for Nassau county or Staten Island though.
What isn't over however are th days of getting arrested for car dates!
That is just as likely to get you arrested as it ever was.
One of the providers panics, and climbed to the roof to escape. She tried to jump from roof to roof, and fell to her death in broad daylight on a busy NYC street.
Since then the NYPD does do amp raids anymore, at least not in Queens and Manhattan. Instead, they use the department of building to shut down amps for not being licensed.
Basically if neighbors complain to the cops, they forward the complaint to the DoB, who send someone over there to ask questions about licenses (AND NOTHING ELSE). They don't go beyond the front desk.
If the place isn't licensed then they are told the place will be getting shut down and unless they want the cops to show up and start asking different questions l, they should consider leaving on their own.
Pretty much every amp that gets one of these visits voluntarily moves on, so the neighbors are happy, no arrests, no drama.
So the days of Amp raids in Manhattan and Queens are pretty much over. Can't say the same for Nassau county or Staten Island though.
What isn't over however are th days of getting arrested for car dates!
That is just as likely to get you arrested as it ever was.