to visit or not to visit?

[cabbykramer]

Have a spot in NJ which I find highly enjoyable and a great value proposition. Unfortunately, its on on the "no review" list. I wrote a review - not realizing it was "Verboten" and got spanked by management (rightfully so I should have checked!). But now - my interest in the spot has almost completely eroded. So as Socrates apparently said The unexamined life is not worth living!" If I had a better budget and could review more - I guess it would not be a problem, But what to do? Do you agree

 

[Don Hollinger]

I go out because I like having sex with hot young women. Not to write about the encounters. If being able to write about it and post it is important then you should definitely go to a place that is ok with reviewers.

In terms of Socrates...about five years ago seeing escorts was that unexamined life, making my life worth living.

 

[East Lake II]

Socrates also said;

“Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people”

 

[BIGBOB62]

I go to a lot of ladies that request no reviews. But fortunately i see enough that are ok with it, so i can post a few here. But like Don, I dont go to spas, to write about it. If I only saw girls that asked for no reviews, i would purchase access here and start looking for women that are well reviewed and match my desires. then cut back on the no review ladies, appropriately. I think this site is very accomodating trading off a review for x days of access.

 

[charliebrown]

The idea of discussing an event which included a person just gave me a migraine!!!

 

[njlefty]

 

[Doubleyellow]

Socrates also said;

“Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people”

We can take a lesson from Socrates, he never wrote anything down! So it is more like what others said he said...

And let's not forget his intellectual equal, Rodney Dangerfield, who wisely said 'Look out for number 1 and don't step in number 2'

 

[AutomaticSlim]

I go out because I like having sex with hot young women. Not to write about the encounters. If being able to write about it and post it is important then you should definitely go to a place that is ok with reviewers.

In terms of Socrates...about five years ago seeing escorts was that unexamined life, making my life worth living.

"I go out because I like having sex with hot young women."
- #metoo

I never write a review when requested to not write one.
And when a great provider requests one, I do so enthusiastically.
But they are ALWAYS honest. Always.
I've heard stories of discounts given for stellar reviews.
I'd hate to be in a situation in life where saving $20, or $40, or $50, or whatever meant that much to me.
Thank God I am not.

 

[charliebrown]

've heard stories of discounts given for stellar reviews.

If anything like this happened to me, I would absolutely take the money if I was going to write a good review. The dilemma would be if she was not good. I think I might have to give her some extra money and tell her she would need it!!!

 

[cabbykramer]

Yup. I too go for the enjoyment (at least I thought so). I just feel pressure to stay connected here so I hesitate to spend $ at a place that I couldn't get credit for. Nevertheless, just have to work on a better budget then "no problem."

 

[248Lancer]

All this Socratic method talk has me reminiscing:

 

[Doubleyellow]

All this Socratic method talk has me reminiscing:

I was right there in the stands, hometown crowd, nasty debates breaking out everywhere, those were tough tickets to get!

 

[Don Hollinger]

All this Socratic method talk has me reminiscing:

I haven't seen this in decades. Thanks.

 

[Bit]

Have a spot in NJ which I find highly enjoyable and a great value proposition. Unfortunately, its on on the "no review" list. I wrote a review - not realizing it was "Verboten" and got spanked by management (rightfully so I should have checked!). But now - my interest in the spot has almost completely eroded. So as Socrates apparently said The unexamined life is not worth living!" If I had a better budget and could review more - I guess it would not be a problem, But what to do? Do you agree

I find it interesting that permission is needed before you write about one of your own experiences. I'm not sure why you reported your review back to management, but that is neither here nor there. I may write about 1 in 10 unique experiences and that is only if I believe it will to help others on this site. In the future, you coukd choose to describe your encounter with sufficient detail to help others understand what they would get, but leave out specifics that would reveal your identity. if there are any places that truly believe a review would "out" their enterprise, they must be stuck in a time warp. If I were in your shoes, I would enjoy every sweet fruit they have to offer and ignore management. Good luck!

 

[Anodyne672]

I find it interesting that permission is needed before you write about one of your own experiences. I'm not sure why you reported your review back to management, but that is neither here nor there. I may write about 1 in 10 unique experiences and that is only if I believe it will to help others on this site. In the future, you coukd choose to describe your encounter with sufficient detail to help others understand what they would get, but leave out specifics that would reveal your identity. if there are any places that truly believe a review would "out" their enterprise, they must be stuck in a time warp. If I were in your shoes, I would enjoy every sweet fruit they have to offer and ignore management. Good luck!

Ignoring requests by management or by indies to not review them is a real dick move. You could jeopardize their business if they are under a cloud of suspicion by the community or by LE. You could jeopardize their ability to collect payments by credit cards or apps such as Venmo. You could jeopardize their freedom if your actions cause them to be arrested. You could jeopardize their lives if they requested no reviews because they have been threatened by prior business associates or by stalkers. If you can’t abide by their request for no reviews, patronize other providers. There are plenty to choose from.

 

[onlydoforyou]

Have a spot in NJ which I find highly enjoyable and a great value proposition. Unfortunately, its on on the "no review" list. I wrote a review - not realizing it was "Verboten" and got spanked by management (rightfully so I should have checked!). But now - my interest in the spot has almost completely eroded. So as Socrates apparently said The unexamined life is not worth living!" If I had a better budget and could review more - I guess it would not be a problem, But what to do? Do you agree

So you wrote a review unknowingly of their not wanting any, you made an error, now you don't have further interest in this place, fogetaboutit, move along.

 

[joshpark2621]

Socrates also said;

“Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people”

this shit made me feel some type of way thanks for the wisdom

 

[Bit]

Ignoring requests by management or by indies to not review them is a real dick move.

I would agree with you 100% if you truly ignored an explicit request not to write a review. If you have a true UTR, I would question why you wrote a review at all knowing it is a UTR? That would be a dick move. But you don't come off like an irrational person, so I would think that there were no stated rules. Hence, why I questioned, why would you ask for permission to be bound by a rule when there was none? Do they have a website? Do they advertise? If so, I'm not sure why you would think that they are a big secret. They found you...right?

I would also question why people go back to establishments and state "Look at this glowing review I wrote for you?" What is the point in that? To get some extra favorable treatment? What was your motivation in writing the review in the first place? If your motivation was to help others, be at peace with yourself for your good deed. Just don't go back and expect a secondary reward for the charity you already provided (IMHO).

And by the way, if they are under such jeopardy, and a cloud of community suspicion, please stay clear. By the time LE and the community are ready to revoke their standing, your review is nothing but a sheet of paper on a very tall pile. For Venmo to revoke access, the establishment has a three-letter agency problem. It is generally not that deep my friend. Most places that get shut down are for building violations or incorrect licensure, because running a sting on an existing establishment is very costly to the local township. If you are truly worried about this, only go to places that advertise.

 

[onlydoforyou]

Have a spot in NJ which I find highly enjoyable and a great value proposition. Unfortunately, its on on the "no review" list. I wrote a review - not realizing it was "Verboten" and got spanked by management (rightfully so I should have checked!). But now - my interest in the spot has almost completely eroded. So as Socrates apparently said The unexamined life is not worth living!" If I had a better budget and could review more - I guess it would not be a problem, But what to do? Do you agree

I’m curious as to how they know it was you offering up the particular review?

 

[Anodyne672]

I would agree with you 100% if you truly ignored an explicit request not to write a review. If you have a true UTR, I would question why you wrote a review at all knowing it is a UTR? That would be a dick move. But you don't come off like an irrational person, so I would think that there were no stated rules. Hence, why I questioned, why would you ask for permission to be bound by a rule when there was none? Do they have a website? Do they advertise? If so, I'm not sure why you would think that they are a big secret. They found you...right?

I would also question why people go back to establishments and state "Look at this glowing review I wrote for you?" What is the point in that? To get some extra favorable treatment? What was your motivation in writing the review in the first place? If your motivation was to help others, be at peace with yourself for your good deed. Just don't go back and expect a secondary reward for the charity you already provided (IMHO).

And by the way, if they are under such jeopardy, and a cloud of community suspicion, please stay clear. By the time LE and the community are ready to revoke their standing, your review is nothing but a sheet of paper on a very tall pile. For Venmo to revoke access, the establishment has a three-letter agency problem. It is generally not that deep my friend. Most places that get shut down are for building violations or incorrect licensure, because running a sting on an existing establishment is very costly to the local township. If you are truly worried about this, only go to places that advertise.

You completely distorted what I wrote. First, your comment is written as though I was defending the writing of these reviews against the wishes of the providers. That is the exact opposite of what I wrote when I said that writing a review against the stated wishes of an AMP or a provider is a dick move. If they made that request, they have their reasons and they have no obligation to explain them to you, to me or to anyone else.

Your assertion that someone who ignores such a request has done a “good deed” if they offer as justification for doing so an alleged desire “to help others” is either hypocritical or outright bullshit. Someone can’t in good faith claim they are motivated to help people when they act in a way that is directly contrary to the stated wishes of the individual or entity most affected by their actions; nor does such behavior constitute a “good deed” by any reasonable standard for judging “good deeds.” All you are doing with such explanations is making sorry excuses for bad behavior. If a client cannot go along with a “no review” request and has a compulsion to write a review, then that client should patronize establishments and providers that don’t object to reviews being posted.

As regards Venmo, I know a number of providers who have NEVER had a problem with ANY three letter agency, but lost their ability to use Venmo because Venmo questioned the frequency of payments, the size of payments, dumb notations made on the site by the provider’s clients to explain the payments, etc. and cut them off from any further use. As a private business, Venmo can do business - or not do business with - anyone it chooses, just as can an AMP or an independent provider.

Regarding reviews being “nothing but a sheet of paper on a very tall pile,” you naively assume that the reviews are the “last straw” that breaks the proverbial camel’s back. In fact, as numerous threads on this site demonstrate, reviews and comments that are overly graphic can be the FIRST things that calls LE or community attention to an AMP or an Indy provider. We’ve all read of people stumbling across such overly graphic reviews and comments while doing a Google search. We’ve all read about angry wives and girlfriends complaining to LE after seeing such comments online.