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Tip At The Flip

Jackyoung1

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Hi All,

I was just curious what’s considered the norm. Places I have been to have never negotiated the tip at the flip, I always gave however much I felt she deserves. From reading around it seems like the norm is to have a negotiation session at the flip, is this true?
 

andy bird

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different places have different rules, but based on whether you will deliver the quid pro quo. Ive had tip up front, at the flip, asked for before the finale and never even discussed. if you are a regular the there should be no issues; if you are a first timer they may be more upfront asking.
 

Ellocohombre

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It is a tricky situation. They work hard and it seems only right to tip them well. But their are some cheap fucks out there. I was at a place last week, a 100k Benz sat in parking lot. Guess what ," He was not a nice man", that was her comment to me after he left. So sometimes they do tend to ask . I'm talking standard shop only.
On the other hand, by not asking for a set price and accepting the donation instead of asking is it solicitation?. So some girls are just being careful.
 

EZBoss

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Safe to say, if you’re a new client, be prepared for each house to have their own way of doing business. Separate your funds in different denominations into different pockets. Four pockets, $100, $60, $40 and $20 - basic training in Boston-Washington corridor. If you have fancy tastes and exotic requests add funds commensurate to your desires.

Some house fees are collected at the door by MMS. Some are collected by your attendant. Prior to making her run back and forth with $60, consider paying up front, as I do, based on what you expect in service (for me: TS, CBJ & CFS) and the quality of the company.

Many guys argue about this subject, but in my opinion, most of them are bargain hunters. Shorting a girl never gets me off. In the few places I regularly visit I’m well known. Whether the girls joke they scored an extra $20 from the old man, I couldn’t care less. What I do like is the enthusiastic greetings I get, hardly ever having to wait and always complete satisfaction.

Men have only a few ways to manipulate women but they have 100 ways to to frustrate a man.
 

scubatoo

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If I am at a new spa, I almost always lay out the tip on the table after they take the house fee and before they return to the room. Almost never negotiation after that. If there is, I simply say "give me a good time, and I will consider it at the end." Rarely a bad experience, and almost always full time and great effort. If it is a spa I have been to, and the mamasan knows me, she is going to tell the girl not to worry about me and the tip. For me, there is nothing worse than interrupting a session to discuss tip. So I head it off early. These girls have long memories and getting to know the mamasan is always a good thing.
 

yougen

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I always tip right before leaving. At flip is the worst time to deal with tipping. Even the act of reach to the wallet kills the mood.
 

Koujiao

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True story. It’s how they make a living lololol
If you don't see it as a tip, you can view how to determine the fee, and the timing of when to hand over the fee. None of us negotiate our tip at a restaurant, we order the meal and add the sides to enhance the meal, based on their price, and at the end we tip based on the overall 'bedside manner' of our service provider. If given earlier in the exchange I think it is akin to a bribe.
 

Neveragain

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If you don't see it as a tip, you can view how to determine the fee, and the timing of when to hand over the fee. None of us negotiate our tip at a restaurant, we order the meal and add the sides to enhance the meal, based on their price, and at the end we tip based on the overall 'bedside manner' of our service provider. If given earlier in the exchange I think it is akin to a bribe.
This is a false equivalency and doesn’t make sense.
 

paco2888

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I’m of the “tip for services rendered” school, but always tip fairly. Tip negotiation at any point and especially in the middle of a session is a mood killer that I simply get up and leave, tipping for whatever service I received by that point. And never, ever tip a Russian ahead of time—they’ll be out the door with the money and deliver lousy service when they return.
 

Koujiao

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This is a false equivalency and doesn’t make sense.
Your response is an expected misdirection, was overdue, and.....Thank you. It confirms my statement and demonstrates how effective and essential the misuse of a single word (tip) is for self-deception. Referring to the payment of a negotiated price for any yet to be delivered goods or services as a 'tip' is an equivocation. More accurately, prevarication. But I get why, rationalizations are a personal comfort food, and a smokescreen.
 

ieee

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The way is see it is, there are three components here, house fee, fee for extra and tips
Just to elaborate,
1. House fee: usually 60 standard, some places 65 or 70
2. Fee for extra: should be standard too for specific service, which may be negotiated
my usual in AMPs 40 for st with hj and 100 for fs
3. Tips: now this depends on the satisfaction, skill, eagerness to satisfy, attitude, accommodation etc, amount may vary and paid definitely after the service.
 

Neveragain

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Your response is an expected misdirection, was overdue, and.....Thank you. It confirms my statement and demonstrates how effective and essential the misuse of a single word (tip) is for self-deception. Referring to the payment of a negotiated price for any yet to be delivered goods or services as a 'tip' is an equivocation. More accurately, prevarication. But I get why, rationalizations are a personal comfort food, and a smokescreen.
You don’t have to fuck a dictionary when your replying to a post on a website Called amp review. And from what you said
You probably tip servers shitty.
Think about the irony
About comparing both occupations
And their limitations.
A fee can’t magically turn into a bribe.
 

Koujiao

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You don’t have to fuck a dictionary when your replying to a post on a website Called amp review. And from what you said
You probably tip servers shitty.
Think about the irony
About comparing both occupations
And their limitations.
A fee can’t magically turn into a bribe.
Fee is a nice word, but the timing of the fee and the service rendered is important. If offered ahead of time to persuade someone to perform an illegal act it is likely a bribe, if offered after someone performed a service, and is given freely, is likely a reward, aka a gratuity or tip.

Which words required you to use of a dictionary? There are lots of dictionaries on line, quick to find, easy to read.

Mischaracterizing me by tossing out personal attacks is a handy diversion, but it doesn't change the facts and exposes your limitations.

To save you from having to go to a dictionary:

bribe
/brīb/
verb
  1. 1.
    persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.
    "an undercover agent bribed the judge into giving a lenient sentence"
    synonyms:buy off, pay off, suborn; More
noun
  1. 1.
    a sum of money or other inducement offered or given in this way.
    synonyms:inducement, incentive, payola; More
 

EZBoss

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Your response is an expected misdirection, was overdue, and.....Thank you. It confirms my statement and demonstrates how effective and essential the misuse of a single word (tip) …etc.
Supercilious dribble my good man. True enough this tip we discuss, is not actually a tip as in a gratituity at a restaurant. Yet given the nature of the activities discussed here, it is the common and accepted pejorative or slang for this trade, and this fee may or my not include a gratuity, which may be considered a “tip” in the proper sense. We have been discussing a fee for services which may only be partially implied. Given that the laws clearly define what constitutes a monetary transaction these expressions address a need for a suitable and no doubt, deniable lingua franca acceptable to all, including providers who may not speak English fluently.

This board enjoys a fraternal spirit and nit picking is discouraged.
 

Neveragain

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Fee is a nice word, but the timing of the fee and the service rendered is important. If offered ahead of time to persuade someone to perform an illegal act it is likely a bribe, if offered after someone performed a service, and is given freely, is likely a reward, aka a gratuity or tip.

Which words required you to use of a dictionary? There are lots of dictionaries on line, quick to find, easy to read.

Mischaracterizing me by tossing out personal attacks is a handy diversion, but it doesn't change the facts and exposes your limitations.

To save you from having to go to a dictionary:

bribe
/brīb/
verb
  1. 1.
    persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.
    "an undercover agent bribed the judge into giving a lenient sentence"
    synonyms:buy off, pay off, suborn; More
noun
  1. 1.
    a sum of money or other inducement offered or given in this way.
    synonyms:inducement, incentive, payola; More
I’m not even going to read this because I can see you copy and pasted from an online dictionary
But I meant no harm
Agree to disagree
 

Neveragain

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Supercilious dribble my good man. True enough this tip we discuss, is not actually a tip as in a gratituity at a restaurant. Yet given the nature of the activities discussed here, it is the common and accepted pejorative or slang for this trade, and this fee may or my not include a gratuity, which may be considered a “tip” in the proper sense. We have been discussing a fee for services which may only be partially implied. Given that the laws clearly define what constitutes a monetary transaction these expressions address a need for a suitable and no doubt, deniable lingua franca acceptable to all, including providers who may not speak English fluently.

This board enjoys a fraternal spirit and nit picking is discouraged.
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